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                 (Omal explains in the most
                            logical way possible of why 144,000 and only
                            144,000 would be needed to create the
                            critical mass needed to initiate a global
                            consciousness change. He uses some excellent
                            analogies to get his point across but it
                            makes the task that much more daunting
                            still.)
 
 
 Russ: now a movie, popular
                                    entertainment that just came out
                                    called “The Matrix”, is a movie
                                    that’s questioning reality.
 
 Omal: reality is what you perceive
                                    it to be but continue.
 
 Russ: correct. In the movie it
                                    brings about a probability that
                                    machines…
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: became self-aware, man tried
                                    to turn them off by cutting off
                                    their sunlight in which they then
                                    went ahead and used man for their
                                    energy but then programmed man’s
                                    consciousness for this life right
                                    now that what we’re living is a
                                    dream and that we're able to escape
                                    that dream if we have the knowledge
                                    and understanding to do so. It’s not
                                    the first time this idea has been
                                    put forth but put forth in such a
                                    way that was quite well-entertaining
                                    was amazing.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: so the point that came about
                                    from the movie was the fact that
                                    everything we see around us is
                                    illusion.
 
 Omal: ahh René Descartes and his
                                    rationalism.
 
 Russ: correct, we can alter the
                                    illusion merely by not seeing the
                                    reality as being real. Still a large
                                    part of that is visualization.
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: okay……
 
 Omal: what is real?
 
 Russ: what is real is our
                                    perceptions of what we feel is real.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: which is not the same thing
                                    but at the same time, how much of
                                    reality is then able to be brought
                                    into our perceptions?
 
 Omal: as much as you desire or as
                                    little as you desire.
 
 Russ: so it’s a basic…..actually
                                    then I guess the question I have is,
                                    you can't have really though a
                                    hands-off life experience, there's
                                    no such thing?
 
 Omal: yes and no.
 
 Russ: okay, let’s dwell on that for
                                    a second.
 
 Omal: it depends on the perception
                                    of the individual. For some, to see
                                    things as they are is very easy but
                                    they see what they wish to see as
                                    they are. For some it is very hard
                                    to see things as they are so they do
                                    not wish to see things as they are.
 
 Russ: hmm, okay. So basically it’s
                                    you create the illusion of the
                                    reality.
 
 Omal: that you wish to perceive.
                                    With the information that is input
                                    of the real reality you take what
                                    you wish and you see what you wish
                                    or see what you don’t wish. Let me
                                    rephrase the last little bit.
 
 Russ: yeah, good call.
 
 Omal: okay you see what you desire
                                    to see but sometimes you filter out
                                    what you desire not to see, that is
                                    better wording.
 
 Russ: so you put the rose glasses
                                    on.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: I see.
 
 Omal: in other words by perceiving
                                    things as you desire, you take the
                                    reality that you desire to see and
                                    filter out what you desire not to
                                    see.
 
 Russ: all right well let’s take
                                    Kosovo……
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: for example. Now many people
                                    see the horror, the struggles, the
                                    injustice to mankind taking place
                                    for hundreds of thousands of
                                    people….
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: other people see it as a
                                    learning experience for those
                                    peoples that they need to go through
                                    at this present time.
 
 Omal: and some see it as an
                                    injustice that needs to be rectified
                                    and not realizing that by attempting
                                    to rectify it they’re making the
                                    situation worse. Others perceive
                                    that so hence the debates and
                                    discussions that are ongoing.
 
 Russ: I see. Now, how much of
                                    that……okay so are we still dealing
                                    with the mass, critical mass number
                                    of people needed to make a dramatic
                                    change worldwide?
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: are we talking? We are.
                                    Alright so it’s still takes a lot of
                                    people doing something at the same
                                    time?
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: okay. Hmmm, a lot of people
                                    have been working on that.
 
 Omal: uh-huh, but nobody is pulling
                                    it all together at same time.
 
 Russ: right. There's a group in New
                                    Guinea who brought together
                                    thousands of people at one time to
                                    meditate for peace this last
                                    weekend….
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: I think it was 2,000 and 6,000
                                    the next day and then I think it was
                                    3,000 the day after that more or
                                    less.......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and they all prayed for peace.
                                    How much is needed for let’s say
                                    critical mass or does it depend on
                                    the people?
 
 Omal: it depends on the people but
                                    the ideal number is extremely high.
 
 Russ: not the 144,000?
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: ahh (whistles).
 
 Omal: so you see the problem?
 
 Russ: a major problem.
 
 Omal: uh-huh. And to orchestrate
                                    them thinking the exact same thing
                                    and the exact same time is extremely
                                    hard, even one out of place will
                                    affect the whole entire calculation.
 
 Russ: now what if you have 200,000
                                    and let’s say you get 150,000 who
                                    actually do it?
 
 Omal: it has to be the 144,000. Too
                                    much is over the critical mass, too
                                    little is under, it has to be
                                    exactly. If you had 144,001, too
                                    many.
 
 Russ: now I know I’m asking a
                                    question that all the people reading
                                    the webpage are going to be asking
                                    and that is why? Why is it that
                                    number and why the heck can’t it be
                                    more than that?
 
 Omal: okay I will address the last
                                    first.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: the reason that it can’t be
                                    more is because the critical mass
                                    has to be of equal proportion, it
                                    has to be exactly the correct
                                    number. You cannot take a 2½ inch
                                    vehicle into a 2¼ inch gap, or a
                                    vehicle that is two inches into a
                                    inch and 31/32, it just doesn’t fit.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: and if it has to be a precise
                                    fit, then if it’s too many, again it
                                    won’t fit. If it’s too little it
                                    will fit in too sloppily, it has to
                                    be precise and accurate.
 
 Russ: all right.
 
 Omal: okay the previous part of the
                                    question….
 
 Russ: the important part.
 
 Omal: the important part which was?
 
 Russ: why does it have to be
                                    144,000?
 
 Omal: because it is the critical
                                    number that is necessary. Again, too
                                    many is too much, it will not fit,
                                    too little and it is not energetic
                                    enough.
 
 Russ: now does this have anything to
                                    do with the Chronicles, the
                                    Sirian Chronicles?
 
 Omal: nothing to do with the Sirian
                                    Chronicles whatsoever except for the
                                    number happens to be the same
                                    throughout.
 
 Russ: oh. All right so we know
                                    that’s the number that needs to be
                                    done, how did they figure it out?
 
 Omal: how do they?
 
 Russ: how does anybody figure it
                                    out, has it been done before?
 
 Omal: yes it has been done before
                                    obviously.
 
 Russ: obviously, I guess so.
 
 Omal: on Sirius it’s been done
                                    before.
 
 Russ: oh but how do they know that
                                    that it will work here? It's just
                                    that's been the law.
 
 Omal: it’s just the laws of physics.
 
 Russ: oh, hmm okay.
 
 Omal: there are certain ways around
                                    it but they are extremely
                                    complicated and involve higher
                                    dimensional and lower dimensional.
 
 Russ: all right, do we have any kind
                                    of idea how much time is necessary?
 
 Omal: I cannot discuss that.
 
 Russ: okay. Hmm, so whoever’s
                                    organizing just better hope for the
                                    best.
 
 Omal: correct. Okay your recording
                                    device is almost ready to turn over,
                                    is that correct?
 
 Russ: yep, just about.
 
 Omal: okay, then we will take care
                                    of the……..thank you and we will
                                    roll, gently.
 
 Russ: that was enlightening.
 
 Omal: I think so.
 
 Russ: I look forward to July.
 
 Omal: live long, prosper, I’ll be
                                    back.
 
 
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