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                 (Kiri talks about the
                      history of civilizations where she questions the
                      age of the Sphinx and Atlantis. They are brought
                      up to demonstrate civilizations are far older than
                      thought. The vast gulf of years is attempted to be
                      comprehended which brings us to their race and the
                      lifespan they live where the priorities are
                      different.)
 
 (We
                                                          have switched
                                                          speakers and a
                                                          conversation
                                                          is taking
                                                          place prior to
                                                          Kiri
                                                          speaking)
 
 
 Russ: definitely worth studying,
                                                          phenomena what
                                                          we do know of
                                                          from records that
                                                          have been discovered
                                                          and
                                                          civilizations
                                                          beginning or
                                                          ending shortly
                                                          thereafter.
 
 Skip:
                                                          well from what
                                                          I understand
                                                          is astrologers that are studying
                                                          these stars and
                                                          what’s going
                                                          on in the
                                                          universe are
                                                          coming up with a
                                                          lot more
                                                          history than
                                                          they have
                                                          before.
 
 Russ:
                                                          hmmm, you mean
                                                          like what
                                                          place where the
                                                          stars were at when
                                                          a civilization was rising or falling?
 
 Skip:
                                                          yes, yes, yes. See
                                                          because some
                                                          of the lights
                                                          from the stars
                                                          are still
                                                          there even though the
                                                          star is gone because it’s
                                                          millions and
                                                          millions of
                                                          light-years
                                                          away so the
                                                          light is still
                                                          there but the
                                                          star could possibly
                                                          be gone.
 
 Russ:
                                                          hmm,
                                                          interesting.
 
 Skip:
                                                          okay? So
                                                          they're.......with the
                                                          new computers
                                                          and new
                                                          telescopes that
                                                          are being satellited, they’re
                                                          coming up with
                                                          more and more
                                                          and more
                                                          continuous.....it’s
                                                          amazing how
                                                          much
                                                          information
                                                          they're coming
                                                          up with. I’m
                                                          sorry I didn’t
                                                          mean to
                                                          interrupt.
 
 Kiri: oh
                                                          that’s quite
                                                          all right,
                                                          quite all
                                                          right.
                                                          Actually you
                                                          brought up a
                                                          very good
                                                          point that I
                                                          happen to have
                                                          a little bit
                                                          of an interest
                                                          in……you’re
                                                          going to love
                                                          this one Russ.
                                                          There is a
                                                          theory on your
                                                          planet that
                                                          the pyramids
                                                          are obviously
                                                          older than
                                                          they actually
                                                          are and so is
                                                          the Sphinx.
 
 Russ:
                                                          uh-huh.
 
 Kiri: this
                                                          is because a
                                                          theory is
                                                          going around
                                                          from a tomb
                                                          that was
                                                          discovered a
                                                          little bit
                                                          earlier than
                                                          the pyramids
                                                          that has a
                                                          landscape
                                                          picture of the
                                                          River Nile and
                                                          overhead is in
                                                          alignment is the Magellan
                                                          cloud.
 
 Russ:
                                                          hmmm.
 
 Kiri: and
                                                          within the
                                                          picture of the
                                                          landscape is a
                                                          construction,
                                                          a very early
                                                          construction
                                                          of a great
                                                          pyramid.
 
 Russ:
                                                          great pyramid?
 
 Kiri: and……
 
 Russ: thought it looked
                                                          almost like a
                                                          swampy area
                                                          too.
 
 Kiri: uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                          which is
                                                          definitely not
                                                          holding up
                                                          with when the
                                                          pyramids were
                                                          said to have
                                                          been built
                                                          which would be a
                                                          dry, deserty area.
 
 Kiri: uh-huh
                                                          and, if you do
                                                          the maths and
                                                          run the
                                                          computer
                                                          simulations
                                                          which has been
                                                          done, you
                                                          would find
                                                          that to have
                                                          that exact
                                                          alignment of
                                                          the Magellan
                                                          cloud and
                                                          Orion....or
                                                          what’s the......Osiris are
                                                          lined up in
                                                          the
                                                          configuration that
                                                          they have it would
                                                          be much, much
                                                          earlier than
                                                          previously
                                                          thought, considerably
                                                          earlier.
 
 Russ:
                                                          well that
                                                          would explain
                                                          the water
                                                          runoff onto
                                                          the Sphinx
                                                          which
                                                          definitely
                                                          points to a
                                                          much wetter climate
                                                          then when it
                                                          was built.
 
 Kiri: which
                                                          puts it at
                                                          current….
 
 Russ:
                                                          or survived.
 
 Kiri: wait
                                                          for the
                                                          number……..puts
                                                          it current 12,000
                                                          years for that
                                                          particular
                                                          alignment to
                                                          have occurred.
 
 Russ:
                                                          12,000 years
                                                          BC?
 
 Kiri: no,
                                                          from now.
 
 Russ:
                                                          from now.
 
 Kiri: well
                                                          from the
                                                          eclipse.
 
 Russ:
                                                          year 10,000.
 
 Kiri: 10,000
                                                          BC.
 
 Russ:
                                                          BC, 10,000 BC
                                                          was before
                                                          any known
                                                          civilization
                                                          was upon this
                                                          planet.
 
 Skip:
                                                          not anymore.
 
 Kiri: uh-uh, Skip’s
                                                          quite correct.
 
 Skip:
                                                          not anymore.
 
 Kiri: they
                                                          now have proof that
                                                          there was a
                                                          civilization
                                                          in Egypt that
                                                          was developed, very developed
                                                          10,000 years
                                                          ago.
 
 Russ:
                                                          I hadn’t heard
                                                          of that yet.
 
 Skip:
                                                          didn’t they
                                                          just find…..oh mercy…..I got
                                                          to stop and
                                                          think, didn’t
                                                          they just find
                                                          a petrified
                                                          person that is
                                                          50,000 years
                                                          old at right
                                                          at the present
                                                          and this was
                                                          just
                                                          discovered
                                                          less than a
                                                          month ago?
 
 Kiri: it
                                                          is very
                                                          possible that
                                                          they have
                                                          discovered
                                                          another one.
                                                          There was the
                                                          famous
                                                          gentlemen
                                                          discovered in
                                                          the Alps that
                                                          was estimated
                                                          to be 8,000 and had
                                                          a very
                                                          extensive
                                                          herbal
                                                          knowledge.
 
 Russ:
                                                          hmmm.
 
 Skip:
                                                          hmmm.
 
 Kiri: but
                                                          that was quite
                                                          a few years
                                                          ago.
 
 Russ:
                                                          50,000, that
                                                          puts it……
 
 Skip:
                                                          that puts it
                                                          way back
                                                          there.
 
 Russ:
                                                          so that puts
                                                          it back at
                                                          Atlantis.
 
 Kiri: uh-huh.
 
 Skip:
                                                          pretty close
                                                          to it, yeah.
 
 Russ:
                                                          which would
                                                          be…..that wouldn't be
                                                          an Atlantian,
                                                          that would be an
                                                          indigenous
                                                          species of the
                                                          planet at that
                                                          point.
 
 Skip: yeah
                                                          because that
                                                          wasn’t
                                                          discovered on
                                                          the coast, any
                                                          of the coasts,
                                                          it was
                                                          discovered
                                                          inland and I think
                                                          if I’m not
                                                          mistaken, it was discovered
                                                          in North
                                                          America in
                                                          Canada.
 
 Russ:
                                                          well 50,000
                                                          years ago,
                                                          North America
                                                          was much
                                                          different than
                                                          it is now.
 
 Skip:
                                                          well yeah.
 
 Kiri: there
                                                          was a land
                                                          bridge.
 
 Skip:
                                                          there was no
                                                          Atlantic.
 
 Russ:
                                                          oh yeah there
                                                          was.
 
 Skip:
                                                          no there
                                                          wasn’t.
 
 Russ:
                                                          10,000 years
                                                          ago? Sure
                                                          there was.
 
 Skip:
                                                          it was part of
                                                          Europe.
 
 Russ:
                                                          no it wasn’t
                                                          Pangaea,
                                                          Pangaea broke
                                                          up 50 million
                                                          years ago.
 
 Skip:
                                                          okay.
 
 Kiri: oh
                                                          a lot longer
                                                          ago than that.
 
 Skip:
                                                          okay.
 
 
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