(In trying to help us understand the awareness of beings with long lifespans, Treebeard uses some of the oldest trees on Earth to compare to young devas and their time perception. He reminds us that in the end we are all just the stuff of stars.) 

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Treebeard: let us move along to our continuing discussion on what is aware and what not is not aware.

Russ: oh excellent, thank you.

Treebeard: as we were discussing last time, certain species of fauna on your planet is aware but on different levels of your understanding. For example, I see little feets with pointed ears and tails that are aware but with juvenile delight and playfulness of being in activity and expenditure of energy with purpose for learning necessary skills that aren't necessary but aid in survival when necessary being acted out. For example, the flight down the steps being for a hunting trip.

Russ: oh yes.

Treebeard: the pursuing and biting and rolling and playing is learning the necessary physical tactile controls for these little beings. Like all of your aware species, it is part of their becoming aware that they act out these processes for their development. Now, moving back into fauna, there are certain species of faunas that act out their survivals and need certain power fluctuations for their advancement. You have power fluctuations then?

Russ: uh-hmm...just a little glitch.

Treebeard: ah, so being of a infinitely longer period of awareness, then the playful beings that you have present is a different process of instinctual behaviors and patterns. The patterns of great wisdom and age in a fauna being is something that is a different awareness level. The greater age species of fauna such as your great trees is that your movements and activities happen quickly and therefore are of no worry or concern and if actions transpire to take away their awareness, then that is part of the growth for them. You have a question being of how does that fit into the spiritual growth? You would say that they are being the early growth of a different form of awareness. If you do the analyzing and thought processes of what kind of awareness would being of a long perception, you would come up with a possible answer that I am unable to confirm or deny but, let us pursue that avenue for understanding to facilitate your own growth.

Russ: okay.

Treebeard: so I put a question to you.

Russ: all right.

Treebeard: what species or being or entity would be the younger version of what they are now which is being a species that has a long perception of time being a moment to you may being of a infinite length of time or an infinite length of time for you being but a moment of passing for them?

Russ: and this would be in fauna I assume?

Treebeard: that is.....

Russ: I mean flora sorry.

Treebeard: fauna.

Russ: oh fauna..

Treebeard: flora and fauna.

Russ: okay, umm I would say probably some of the oldest trees as we're discussing before, the bristle cone pine......

Treebeard; uh-hmm.

Russ: of which to them our mere 80 years on earth is just eight rings on a tree for them.

Treebeard: uh-hmm.

Russ: and they would see it as very short and yet for us it's a very long time but in their scale they would be more comparable to Sirians or someone with a very long lifespan to us.

Treebeard: yes but that is not where I am trying to pursue.

Russ: oh.

Treebeard: what I'm trying to say is that you would say that you are the children of, in your youth you are children, in your maturity you are eighth and ninth dimensional beings and in your age you would being of higher. So what would the bristle cone being be?

Russ: it would be probably……a probably like third dimensional?

Treebeard: hmmm, let us look at this in a different light or from a different avenue. They would be young blanks, again using one of your thought processes and phrases.

Russ: sprouts?

Treebeard: ummmm, no. A bristle cone tree would be of without giving too much away on thought processes, a young antlered one.

Russ: a young buck.

Treebeard: hmmmm.....clear your minds, mind. You have just a few weeks ago walked the circle have you not?

Russ: uh-hmm. Oh I see...

Treebeard: so a bristle cone with being a young.......

Russ: deva.

Treebeard: yes, possibly. As I stated, it is something I can neither confirm nor denies.

Russ: I see what you're talking about. Hmm, that would be hinting at a much greater awareness perhaps.

Treebeard: what is transpiring?

Russ: oh, our older cat is rather upset about the younger playfulness of our smaller brethren.

Treebeard: I suggest you do not, I suggest you grin and bear as it is necessary for learning of respect.

Russ: okay, it will certainly learn some respect if it comes down to that.

Treebeard: I think that juvenile mother would being present would watch out for young offspring to serve lesson in learning.

Russ: well it's going to be teaching respect for Ganja here who currently runs the house as far as cats go.

Treebeard: yes, okay let us continue and answer questions on being.

Russ: all right, now devas themselves of who as we mentioned have but a mere moment to them is centuries to us.

Treebeard: or vice a versa.

Russ: vice a versa, right. Do they have any kind of set schedule, or not schedule....

Treebeard: pattern?

Russ: no, not so much pattern.....agenda?

Treebeard: yes, I would assume so, I really do not know as to them I am a mere child. To see a pattern I would have to dwell for many days, many weeks, maybe many months to see a pattern and analyze in my non-dormant time, that is all I would dwell upon, do you wish to do this?

Russ: no, I do not wish to do that. I would just like to just kind of explore maybe just the outer fringes of that question.

Treebeard: (chuckles) okay.

Russ: for example, if I look at the history of devas and the etheric beings of our limited knowledge here on our planet and the stories that we've gone through, you would see from what we've had that they are more in tune with the growth of plants, rocks if they grow or stay the way they are, nature. Nature, they are very much in tune and in control of nature itself. But being as they are etheric beings and the substance of nature is just made up of molecules and basically they are merely manipulating the molecules.......

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: but they themselves aren't made of molecules are they?

Treebeard: they take on forms that they so desire in appearance. When seen as a form, they have molecules and beings. They are being of molecules all the time but more densely packed when you perceive them.

Russ: I see, so it's almost a loose collection of molecules that make up the deva and then they bring those together as they so desire.

Treebeard: it would be better to say it is a loose committee of molecules that debate when they are more densely confined in a compacted area.

Russ: I see. So it could almost be called a group consciousness of molecules?

Treebeard: you could also be called that, I could also being called that.

Russ: now that's an interesting thought. A group consciousness....well what makes up our mind and our brain, our toe, our knee, our finger?

Treebeard: all molecules of you are you from wherever. If you hold up your big digit, thank you, have a look at it. Say hello to a piece of Deneba.

Russ: hello a piece of Deneba.

Treebeard: look at another digit and say, hello piece of Sirius.

Russ: I see where this is going, we're made up of the same substance as the stars.

Treebeard: you, myself the.....

Russ: feline who wants out.

Treebeard: are being made up out of, as you would say, the stuff of stars.

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: and I think he is being fed up with being pestered, it is an assumption I am trying to make.

Russ: I would assume you are fairly correct in that.

Treebeard: pick up one of the juveniles and say hello to a piece of a Betelgeuse star.

Russ: hi Betelgeuse.

Treebeard: so you are seeing where the progression goes.

Russ: right, okay. So the conscious thought that makes up myself and you and one of the little ones there and a deva are all the same thing. So the question I guess comes down to a point is, why do all those molecules get together to say, "well I think we're going to be this person or this deva or this Sirian, or....."?

Treebeard: or that Sirian or this......

Russ: kitten.

Treebeard: kitten.

Russ: correct, right.

Treebeard: the answer would be one that we can speculate on without taking from your learning path.

Russ: okay.

Treebeard: it is difficult for me to give you a answer that would be easy to comprehend in your language even though it is fluid, is lacking in eloquency on meanings of word.

Russ: okay, so theoretically I should come up with the correct answer or an answer that best fits the question and give you that?

Treebeard: I think that would be self-evident would it not?

Russ: well it takes me a while to jump to these self-evident conclusions as opposed to the ones that aren't so self-evident.

Treebeard: well it is easier for you to come up with answers when given a gentle nudge from two directions.

Russ: true.