(Karra compares the different ways of thinking for the various dimensions such as Sananda, Omal, herself and myself. We theorize on Sananda’s motivation for being incarnated on the 3rd dimension as Jesus and how he may have foreseen the outcome it had on our evolution as a race.) 

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Karra: let's talk about hmmm.....different consciousness', different ways of thinking.

Russ: okay.

Karra: that seems to be the topic of tonight. Looking at the way you think and I think as opposed to the way Omal thinks. Omal tends to see things on a much bigger scale and a much smaller scale which is very hard and contradictory in my opinion. You can't look at both the little picture and the big picture at the same time. It is fascinating to see Omal's thought processes on how he addresses situations and how he uses phraseology and the construction of that phraseology, the analogies and the parables that he draws.

Russ: well, do you think possibly that it is that each dimension you see a bigger picture from the smaller pictures that are presented to you?

Karra: I don't know hon.

Russ: okay well let's then........you see through my eyes......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: much of what I see.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you've lived third dimensional lives as I do.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, you know exactly how I view life.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: from the smaller pictures with a small glimpse of the big picture.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now you on the other hand living in sixth dimension, you see more of the smaller picture but you also see a lot of the bigger picture in a larger extent than I do. For one thing, you have access to your past lives, your mind thinks quicker.......

Karra: yes, yep uh-huh.

Russ: so what's that take to the next level then?

Karra: to the next level, I don't know. I have the lacking in information to be able to come up with a clear answer. If I said I think, that is just thinking, it is lacking concrete evidence.

Russ: all right, let's take some evidence okay? Let's take Sananda.

Karra: okay.

Russ: now, Sananda choose to go through a short lifetime of some 33 years......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: to teach and in the end, present a grander lesson than had been presented before.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Could we then say that Sananda saw the bigger picture which includes even today what is going on from that act? Do you think that he, from that higher dimensional point of view he was at before he went down to third dimension, saw to this point what would go on or only the big picture to that point?

Karra: I don't know for two reasons. One, I'm not a eighth or a ninth or a tenth dimensional being and for two, I'm not Sananda.

Russ: I know.

Karra: I can say I think possibly maybe, I could say all those things and it is my point of view on Sananda. Omal is concurring with me, he's saying that it is wrong when dealing with a situation or a person that has shown and taught that much to sit and conjecture is just adding to the myths, stories and legends. But I know what you're trying to say.

Russ: I like to think he did in my own opinion.

Karra: uh-huh, you can think what you want.

Russ: yes, I know, it's a neat scenario.

Karra: yes it is, it is but by me saying that I think, I feel when I don't know Sananda. I've met him as many times as you have, actually I've met him three times. I don't know Sananda so for me to make a comment about somebody of that importance that I've only met three times, how can I do that and come up with the facts? You're talking about myths and stories of somebody that you've only met twice all cobbled together. What is true and what is not true? I've heard a lot about Sananda, all second or third or fourth hand information. From that is everybody's point of view so I can't say personally.

Russ: true but....right. But the opposite to that statement is the fact that he was just throwing dice.

Karra: maybe he was.

Russ: maybe he was?

Karra: who knows?

Russ: who knows? Right, what's interesting though is though he went from the higher dimension that he was at.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: came down to third dimension and I'm seeing him among these gentlemen that he's brought together who look up to him and he's teaching them. Peter, Paul, Matthew, John and so on.

Karra: Luke, Mark.

Russ: correct.

Karra: Judas.

Russ: uh-huh and he's actually talking to these gentlemen in a third dimensional realm much as you do to myself.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and to be able to do that for him must've been just an incredible experience.

Karra: it must of been. Let us look at it from a different point, a different angle.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay? I'm a sixth dimensional being, you're a third dimensional being.

Russ: correct.

Karra: he is 10th?

Russ: 10th.

Karra: okay. The thought processes that we go through are totally different. I think faster than you do.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: I have access to my past lives.

Russ: right.

Karra: I can work out things quicker in my mind. Okay, let us look at Sananda and this is totally projection and totally my opinion.

Russ: understand.

Karra: it's not based in general fact, it is my opinion.

Russ: okay.

Karra: obviously to me, he thinks faster than I do. He has access to all his past lives, he has perfect recall of those past lives. Not, my opinions from those past lives but he has.........or not his opinions from this past lives, he has by closing his eyes can actually experience the life as it was and he can play it through his mind, a whole entire life. All the thoughts, feelings, emotions, points of view, all of that in the space of because in my opinion that he thinks faster, he can probably experience a whole entire life in maybe five minutes. Now, being able to do that for many, many past lives, may be able to see patterns where he is not looking into the past but into the future. Seeing all these possible outcomes and how each emotional status and each emotional behavior is going to affect further down the line. By being able to experience not only his past life but the group consciousness of the planet that he is from or the planet that he has chosen to visit, will be able to see how his emotions and behaviors and behaviors of people interact in a way to affect the future. Now the faces may be the same, I don't know, he could actually be seeing into the future by looking at the most likely outcomes.

Russ: so you're saying, and this is only my opinion......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: Sananda's an artist. Sananda has a canvas in front of him, the picture he started has got these swirls and colors and forms that he's started....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but the rest of the canvas is blank but he can project how the rest of that canvas is going to look by which brush strokes he's going to make here and how they're going to interrelate to these other strokes he's going to make later on.

Karra: I don't know hon.

Russ: but if that's true, and it's only conjecture in our opinion.......my opinion anyway....

Karra: uh-huh.

Karra: then isn't that true for all of us? We're all artists, we all have our own canvas' that we're creating upon.

Karra: I don't know hon and Tia is pointing at your recording device.

Russ: okay.

Karra: and saying that as we have three more speakers, I've got to cut it short.

Russ: well we end on a good note.

Karra: uh-hmm, "I don't know."

Russ: thank you my fellow artist.

Karra: let me go and find a bottle of claret.

Russ: fair enough.

Karra: okay.