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                 (Omal gives a
                      dissertation on the spiritual consciousness of
                      everything. The key is finding a balanced harmony
                      within yourself and then passing that on to
                      others. He stresses not doing so in a pushy way
                      but only if someone expresses an interest in
                      whatever belief system is being discussed.)
 
 
 Omal: greetings Russ.
 
 Russ: greetings.
 
 Omal: greetings Skip.
 
 Skip: greetings.
 
 Russ: greetings Omal.
 
 Omal: okay, everything looks
                                        good on Kiri’s end apart from
                                        her vibrational frequency. Okay,
                                        what are we here to discuss
                                        tonight?
 
 Skip: I’m just trying to
                                        remember what we were
                                        discussing.
 
 Russ: we didn't have anything
                                        set to discuss.
 
 Omal: we did not. I am a little
                                        bit on a tight schedule this
                                        evening, I have approximately 15
                                        to 20 minutes.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: okay, let us set up a
                                        brief dissertation for the
                                        Internet concerning, as we are
                                        on a spiritual vein tonight,
                                        spiritual consciousness of
                                        everything. Everything being a
                                        general term of the belief in
                                        the universal goodwill of all
                                        things and the spiritual
                                        development of individuals to a
                                        higher plane of consciousness
                                        whether it is a third
                                        dimensional, sixth dimensional,
                                        seventh dimensional level of
                                        consciousness, the goals are all
                                        the same and that is to achieve
                                        a harmony within oneself that
                                        you are balanced. Being balanced
                                        is a way to achieve a peaceful
                                        persona and aura around you
                                        which attracts likewise.
                                        However, if you are too vocal on
                                        your spirituality, that can be a
                                        negative factor if you behave
                                        too passionately and believe
                                        that others are wrong and should
                                        believe your beliefs. It is more
                                        important to accept individuals
                                        for their spiritual beliefs or
                                        non-beliefs as well as your own.
                                        By forcing your beliefs on
                                        somebody else, that could be
                                        classified as a sin using a
                                        third dimensional term. A sin in
                                        the sense that you would be
                                        forcing against somebody’s will
                                        your belief and trying to
                                        convert them to your belief. If
                                        they are not ready to be
                                        converted to your belief, then
                                        don’t force them but if you
                                        explain to them your religious
                                        point of view or your
                                        spirituality and let them choose
                                        for themselves, then a respect
                                        is created whether or not they
                                        choose because it is their
                                        choice. You are not forcing them
                                        and you are not telling them
                                        that their way is wrong, you’re
                                        explaining your beliefs and the
                                        beliefs that you have and it
                                        does not matter what their
                                        beliefs are because that is
                                        their beliefs. But to sit there
                                        and try to dominate and preach
                                        as some of your third
                                        dimensional preachers do that if
                                        you do not believe my religion
                                        then you are doomed, you will go
                                        to a hot and infernal pain for
                                        all time and never see an
                                        opportunity to be reborn again,
                                        that is wrong. What is right is
                                        to say this is what I believe
                                        and I do not fault you for what
                                        you believe, that is your
                                        choice, that is what makes you
                                        who you are. If you feel like
                                        talking about my religion, I
                                        will be delighted to but I will
                                        not force it upon you, end of
                                        subject. But, if they continue
                                        to question you about your
                                        religion, it means that they are
                                        interested so you tell them the
                                        truth, you tell them what you
                                        believe but you do not say to
                                        them, "you should take it up
                                        too". How do you know what they
                                        should take up, how do you know
                                        what they will enjoy, how do you
                                        know what they will like? You do
                                        not honestly know what somebody
                                        else will like and enjoy. You
                                        can assume, you can analyze and
                                        come up with a reasonable
                                        assumption of what they will
                                        believe, what they will like but
                                        you should never force them,
                                        force your belief on somebody
                                        else. Okay, my dissertation is
                                        up.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: okay, let's answer
                                        questions.
 
 Russ: okay, with anybody’s
                                        religion, we're kind of at a
                                        point where they have a deep
                                        belief in something and you have
                                        a deep belief in something......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and in not discussing
                                        religion, then you kind of
                                        pretty much stay on even ground
                                        but what I see is the problem is
                                        when people start to discuss
                                        religion is, even if they say,
                                        "this is what I believe in" and
                                        "this is what I believe in",
                                        then the two beliefs tend to get
                                        to a point where they get to a
                                        middle ground where you start to
                                        understand what the other person
                                        believes and they do see that
                                        common ground that is there. So
                                        I think if more people were able
                                        to discuss religion and get a
                                        kind of, where is the truth,
                                        what’s in between the lines?
 
 Omal: well you need to create a
                                        feeling of unimportance on
                                        converting. It is quite common
                                        for people to become very
                                        passionate about their religious
                                        beliefs almost to the point of
                                        trying to dominate somebody and
                                        convert them to their belief.
                                        I've seen it so many times and
                                        it is a small minority that
                                        takes the stance of, "it is
                                        unimportant, you're free to
                                        believe what you wish to
                                        believe. If you wish to believe
                                        my religion, that is fine. If
                                        you wish to continue to believe
                                        in yours, that is fine" but the
                                        important thing is to find the
                                        commonality between the
                                        religions and work on those
                                        points. You can have a million
                                        different individuals that have
                                        all different beliefs on
                                        everything and to force them to
                                        believe one thing or ten things
                                        instead of a million is
                                        impossible, you will not be able
                                        to get all of them to believe in
                                        one thing. They all have
                                        different variations and
                                        different beliefs of the same
                                        thing or of groups of things. So
                                        therefore you cannot achieve a
                                        universal spiritual religion, it
                                        has to be for the individual.
                                        The best way to look at it would
                                        be to say you have a million
                                        people and a million different
                                        religions, if they are all Roman
                                        Orthodox, Greek Orthodox,
                                        Russian Orthodox, they are of a
                                        different religion individually.
                                        Even if it was just the one, the
                                        Roman Orthodox and you have a
                                        million people, that is a
                                        million different religions, a
                                        million little variations on the
                                        same thing but enough that
                                        everybody will be of a different
                                        religion. So to have a religion
                                        that is based on one belief or
                                        one set of beliefs is wrong
                                        because everybody believes
                                        something different. Even only
                                        infinitely small, it is still a
                                        difference that will cause
                                        problems but to accept them for
                                        those beliefs is the important
                                        thing. Accepting a million
                                        different individuals in the
                                        Roman Orthodox that have a
                                        million different religions
                                        going under the same name,
                                        accept them for who they are,
                                        not for the religion because
                                        they all believe differently.
 
 Russ: uh huh. Now one thing I've
                                        noticed is it's a lot better. It
                                        used to be no matter where you
                                        lived, if you didn't believe in
                                        one thing, you could be not only
                                        persecuted but killed and all
                                        over the world the same exact
                                        thing has happened. Now you have
                                        such a freedom of religion, is
                                        there a point now where we're
                                        seeing where all this freedom is
                                        going to possibly lead to more
                                        openness….
 
 Omal: I hope so.
 
 Russ: in consciousness?
 
 Omal: I hope so but I cannot
                                        answer that question. This setup
                                        that we have is not new, this
                                        using a host to talk to you is
                                        not new, it is even recorded in
                                        your scripture, in many
                                        different scriptures.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: Allah talked through the
                                        prophet Mohammed, Yahweh talked
                                        through the prophet Elijah,
                                        Jehovah talked through the
                                        prophet Moses, isn't that
                                        channeling?
 
 Russ: yeah, the Greeks had their
                                        Oracle at Delphi.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: but yet this setup is
                                        looked upon as strange, as
                                        nonconformist because it is not
                                        a religious setup.
 
 Skip: black magic is what a lot
                                        of people say it is.
 
 Omal: yes. I’m going to ask a
                                        question again, I’ve asked it in
                                        the past, what does occult mean
                                        and how is it used today?
 
 Skip: cults is a collection of
                                        individuals that’s…..okay my
                                        interpretation but it's not
                                        everybody’s okay? My
                                        interpretation, an evil
                                        association, a belief that
                                        dominates other people’s
                                        thoughts.
 
 Omal: okay Russ.
 
 Russ: a cult is a collection of
                                        individuals who hold the same
                                        ideas and ideals and meet to
                                        discuss those ideals.
 
 Omal: no, both of you are wrong.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Omal: the word occult means
                                        hidden.
 
 Russ: oh, occult.
 
 Omal: have you ever heard of a
                                        occultation of the planets or an
                                        occult of Venus?
 
 Russ: uh-uh.
 
 Skip: uh-uh, no.
 
 Omal: okay an occult of Venus is
                                        where Venus is hidden. Or an
                                        occult of Jupiter or to use a
                                        more common name occultation
                                        which means the same thing,
                                        hidden.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Omal: one is hidden by the
                                        other. In the term that is used
                                        to describe religion, an occult
                                        is a hidden knowledge, it’s
                                        hidden. So you could say the
                                        priest going into the temple and
                                        coming out with a candle that is
                                        lit is an occult event, it is
                                        hidden. The priest going into
                                        his little cubicle and then
                                        somebody going into the cubicle
                                        next to him to confess, that is
                                        hidden from view. So is that not
                                        also occult?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Omal: but yet those are very
                                        much part of the dominant
                                        religion, or one of the dominant
                                        religions of your planet.
 
 Skip: uh-huh. The funny part of
                                        it is, almost every religion
                                        came from the Christians,
                                        Catholics excuse me….
 
 Omal: or well you can take it
                                        one step further back, the
                                        majority came from the Jewish
                                        faith.
 
 Skip: true.
 
 Omal: the story of Isaac and
                                        what was brother called,
                                        Ishmael?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: well Ishmael, was he not
                                        one of the founders of the
                                        Muslim faith? I seem to see a
                                        problem there on the friction.
 
 Skip: and the Koran has got the
                                        same stories in it as the King
                                        James bible.
 
 Omal: uh-huh and the Torah.
 
 Skip: which amazes me.
 
 Omal: but again, what one thing
                                        in common do those religions
                                        have that Kiri mentioned?
 
 Skip: love thy neighbor.
 
 Omal: correct. But to accept an
                                        individual for their religious
                                        belief regardless of whether it
                                        is making a sacrifice of a lamb
                                        or praying to a man that was
                                        crucified.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: it is unimportant, it is
                                        accepting the individual for
                                        their belief. Neither is right
                                        and neither is wrong, both are
                                        right and both are wrong and
                                        Kiri actually is a very
                                        religious individual, she
                                        worships in her own unique way
                                        and she is accepted for that.
 
 Skip: don’t we all?
 
 Omal: true.
 
 Skip: even in our world we
                                        worship in our own way, all of
                                        us do.
 
 Omal: uh-huh. There is no wrong
                                        as long as you understand that
                                        there is no wrong to believe
                                        what you believe and no wrong in
                                        the person next to you believing
                                        something different. Or the next
                                        person or the person down the
                                        street or the person at the bus
                                        stand of the person standing in
                                        line to buy tickets for
                                        entertainment.
 
 Skip: as long as they don’t
                                        impose their beliefs on somebody
                                        else.
 
 Omal: that is correct, that is
                                        where it becomes wrong. When you
                                        turn around and try to dominate
                                        somebody and tell them that you
                                        must believe my religion.
 
 Skip: uh-huh and it happens so
                                        often.
 
 Omal: unfortunately, I’ve seen
                                        it thousands of times over
                                        hundreds of years. Let me
                                        rephrase that, I’ve seen that
                                        many times over the last 10,000
                                        years.
 
 Skip: "and if you don’t believe
                                        my way you die".
 
 Omal: exactly and it is wrong.
                                        Unfortunately it is not just a
                                        human condition to fight. There
                                        are too many species throughout
                                        the galaxy, throughout the
                                        universe that have the same
                                        intent on fighting, some are
                                        more ferocious than others but
                                        it is a survival mechanism
                                        created through evolution that
                                        if you weren’t a fighting
                                        species, you would be no more
                                        advanced than the feline.
 
 Skip: that’s right.
 
 Omal: so to condone violence and
                                        fighting is in actual fact
                                        wrong. I’m not saying it is
                                        right to be violent but violence
                                        got you where you are. Being the
                                        meanest, strongest, most
                                        thinking ape in the jungle came
                                        to where you are now.
 
 Skip: even our technology has
                                        come miles from combat.
 
 Omal: your moist useful tool,
                                        the computer, is that not a
                                        combat weapon?
 
 Skip: yes it is.
 
 Omal: what was it designed for?
 
 Skip: originally I think it was
                                        designed for radar.
 
 Omal: close, it was actually
                                        designed for tracking incoming
                                        ballistics and being able to
                                        send ballistics.
 
 Skip: wait a minute, it was
                                        before that wasn’t it? Excuse
                                        me, I don’t mean to correct you,
                                        I didn’t mean it that way.
 
 Omal: continue.
 
 Skip: but radar was even before
                                        ballistic missiles.
 
 Omal: I am incorrect in saying
                                        ballistic, I should say
                                        projectile.
 
 Skip: okay, okay, I’ll go with
                                        that one. And so it was a radar
                                        setup basically?
 
 Omal: it kind of happened with
                                        both.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Omal: you needed one to get to
                                        the other.
 
 Skip: because it happened during
                                        the first part of the Second
                                        World War.
 
 Omal: it happened a little bit
                                        before I believe when they’re
                                        working with radar and using it
                                        to track incoming projectile
                                        objects.
 
 Skip: yeah, aircraft and so on
                                        and so forth.
 
 Omal: that’s correct.
 
 Skip: I’m sorry, I didn’t mean
                                        to….
 
 Omal: they also used it to be
                                        able to send those projectile
                                        objects.
 
 Skip: and from there it just
                                        kept developing.
 
 Omal: that is correct. So the
                                        technology is nearly 70 years
                                        old.
 
 Skip: uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah. It's
                                        advanced to the point that most
                                        people don't even understand it.
 
 Omal: true but we have a
                                        resident expert on antique
                                        computers. Unfortunately he is
                                        unavailable at the moment
                                        because he is busy working with
                                        the conference setup. Okay, any
                                        more questions?
 
 Skip: no.
 
 Russ: no.
 
 Skip: no, thank you.
 
 Omal: you are welcome.
 
 
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