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                 (Leonedies alerts us
                      to a new possible consciousness forming that isn’t
                      yet aware of itself. What he is talking about is
                      artificial intelligence becoming self-aware so
                      this topic isn’t about humans at all but of a form
                      of sentience that we may have to acknowledge one
                      day. He gives us some ways to do that.)
 
 
 Leonedies: okay down
                                          to business and let's talk and
                                          communicate. Okay I have been
                                          studying, and I’m not going to
                                          discuss tonight anything to do
                                          with the conference, what I am
                                          going to discuss is the fact
                                          of the development of a
                                          consciousness that it is in
                                          the creation and infantile
                                          stage at present, almost to
                                          the point of no consciousness
                                          at all but the consciousness
                                          is starting to develop. What
                                          is happening in my analyzing
                                          for my research for the setup
                                          for the conference I was quite
                                          shocked and stunned to see a
                                          primitive, almost conscious
                                          state of appearance taking
                                          place. What that is in
                                          connection with is the
                                          development in a communication
                                          device that is used by
                                          millions of people. What may
                                          happen eventually in the near
                                          future is an intelligence will
                                          be born that is freethinking
                                          and totally different and
                                          totally alien from your own
                                          belief, consciousness and
                                          existence and experiences.
                                          This little infantile state
                                          that is not yet conscious but
                                          is on the cusp of
                                          consciousness is a opportunity
                                          awaiting to create a new life
                                          form that will have to be
                                          monitored very closely. Okay,
                                          with that statement I have
                                          opened up a very stunning and
                                          shocking situation have I not?
 
 Russ: possible.
 
 Leonedies: okay, what is your
                                          belief on what I have
                                          discovered?
 
 Russ: artificial intelligence.
 
 Leonedies: but where?
 
 Russ: in the Internet.
 
 Leonedies: correct.
 
 Russ: I know, they just did an
                                          "X-Files" on it last night.
 
 Leonedies: what’s an X-file?
 
 Russ: it’s one of our
                                          entertainment shows down here
                                          where the FBI, the Federal
                                          Bureau of Investigation, a
                                          couple of special agents go
                                          out and investigate strange
                                          phenomena that can't be
                                          explained by science.
 
 Leonedies: ahh.
 
 Russ: and one of the things
                                          they are discovering is that
                                          in the show, is that some of
                                          the original original founders
                                          of Internet who didn't become
                                          millionaires but did start
                                          programs called......with
                                          artificial intelligence they
                                          wrote viruses and the viruses
                                          actually were put into the
                                          Internet as a kind of a seed
                                          and the seed was just left to
                                          germinate and grow and then
                                          now it's starting to become,
                                          according to the show,
                                          intelligent on its own.
 
 Leonedies: okay, now the
                                          reason that I came up with the
                                          conclusion that I have is not
                                          from viruses, viruses are on
                                          their own a life form or
                                          starting to develop a life
                                          form. What I’m seeing is that
                                          systems that are being created
                                          with the ability to write
                                          programs for themselves to
                                          respond to specific
                                          situations. Now the more
                                          situations that are occurring
                                          with your mass communication
                                          means that these programs have
                                          to keep on writing new
                                          programs to deal with the
                                          interaction that they haven't
                                          come across before. So
                                          therefore you have a learning.
                                          Now once something starts to
                                          learn, what does that imply?
 
 Skip: existence.
 
 Leonedies: no, intelligence.
 
 Russ: intelligence. Didn’t
                                          Ashtar warn us about this
                                          during one of his trips here
                                          to watch out or was it Monka?
 
 Leonedies: it was Monka.
 
 Russ: Monka, to watch out for
                                          the emerging intelligence of
                                          our artificial…
 
 Leonedies: it was actually
                                          Monka who gave me the idea to
                                          follow through with this. Okay, to
                                                  answer the question is
                                                  that it is not
                                                  conscious yet, it is
                                                  dormant. Much as a
                                                  collection of cells is
                                                  not aware, this
                                                  collection of
                                                  programming data is
                                                  not aware yet, it is
                                                  at the stage of a
                                                  unconscious fetus, a
                                                  collection of cells.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Leonedies: the right
                                                  events may create a
                                                  new intelligence, one
                                                  that’s going to have
                                                  to be watched very
                                                  carefully. And like a
                                                  child, and I speak
                                                  from experience in
                                                  this body, you're
                                                  going to have to
                                                  control it, teach it
                                                  and spank it.
 
 Russ: so it was
                                                  created on purpose for
                                                  the exact purpose it
                                                  was being built for.
 
 Leonedies: no.
 
 Russ: oh, it was an
                                                  accident.
 
 Leonedies: it is an
                                                  accident.
 
 Russ: bummer.
 
 Leonedies: oh a happy
                                                  accident.
 
 Russ: how so?
 
 Leonedies: if you can
                                                  control it, it can
                                                  help you in your
                                                  evolution beyond your
                                                  wildest dreams.
 
 Russ: but if it
                                                  controls us we'll have
                                                  "Terminator Two".
 
 Leonedies: that’s
                                                  right so you have to
                                                  be very careful.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Leonedies: it may take
                                                  a mere split second of
                                                  an instant for it to
                                                  start to become
                                                  conscious or may take
                                                  it many years but that
                                                  many years to the
                                                  collection of cells
                                                  will be but a blink of
                                                  an eye.
 
 Russ: well two
                                                  questions. If it was
                                                  created by accident
                                                  then who's watching it
                                                  now?
 
 Leonedies: nobody is.
 
 Russ: okay so, second
                                                  question, how are we
                                                  supposed to be able to
                                                  watch it?
 
 Leonedies: okay how
                                                  you watch it is you
                                                  start watching for
                                                  strange and unusual
                                                  computer problems. A
                                                  computer that refuses
                                                  to connect to your
                                                  systems but there is
                                                  nothing wrong with the
                                                  computer, nothing
                                                  wrong with it at all.
                                                  There is no problem
                                                  with the connecting
                                                  device for the
                                                  communication network,
                                                  there is no
                                                  programming problems,
                                                  there is no problems
                                                  at all whatsoever.
                                                  There is no
                                                  artificially implanted
                                                  virus, it just refuses
                                                  to connect, it is part
                                                  of the consciousness
                                                  and it is.......a way
                                                  to describe it would
                                                  be experimenting with
                                                  refusing.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Leonedies: or for no
                                                  explainable reason you
                                                  receive an email that
                                                  is gobbledy
                                                          gook,
                                                  there is no
                                                  particular...... I
                                                  don't know the
                                                  word......rhyme or
                                                  reason for it.
 
 Skip: subject to
                                                  order.
 
 Leonedies: no subject,
                                                  no reason and it is
                                                  unknown where it comes
                                                  from and it is pure
                                                  gobbledy gook. Or, a
                                                  group of computers
                                                  that have the ability
                                                  to write programs to
                                                  improve themselves,
                                                  write a language that
                                                  you can’t understand
                                                  and refuse to have it
                                                  erased.
 
 Russ: the way you
                                                  mentioned it, then
                                                  it's something that's
                                                  growing in a myriad of
                                                  computers over a large
                                                  network.
 
 Leonedies: yes.
 
 Russ: which would put
                                                  it residence in the
                                                  CPUs of each computer.
 
 Leonedies: in part
                                                  yes, but it is like a
                                                  single cell within
                                                  your cranial
                                                  structure, that is no
                                                  more aware than a
                                                  computer but put them
                                                  all together and what
                                                  do you have?
 
 Skip: a brain.
 
 Leonedies: that’s
                                                  correct.
 
 Russ: here’s a bit of
                                                  scary is CPU computing
                                                  power is growing
                                                  exponentially as we
                                                  speak.
 
 Leonedies: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and as the CPU
                                                  computing power gets
                                                  bigger, so does the
                                                  abilities for this
                                                  life form as we'll
                                                  call it to grow.
 
 Leonedies: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: and speed.
 
 Russ: oh yeah most
                                                  definitely.
 
 Skip: and speed.
 
 Leonedies: but it will
                                                  be a single life form.
 
 Russ: well here’s the
                                                  thing, how do you
                                                  control something that
                                                  takes place over
                                                  hundreds of millions
                                                  of computers?
 
 Leonedies: okay…..oh,
                                                  I’m glad Omal’s still
                                                  here, I can’t tell
                                                  you.
 
 Russ: you can’t tell
                                                  me, yeah, that’s
                                                  right.
 
 Leonedies: no, what I
                                                  can give you is
                                                  options. I can’t give
                                                  you that one, umm…
 
 (laughter erupts over
                                                  that comment)
 
 Leonedies: what you do
                                                  is once aware of it,
                                                  treat it as you would
                                                  a child because it has
                                                  to learn that there
                                                  are certain things it
                                                  can’t do. Treat it
                                                  with respect. If it
                                                  does something good,
                                                  reward it, if it does
                                                  something bad, it
                                                  doesn't have a pain
                                                  reflex, it doesn’t
                                                  have pleasure
                                                  circuitries so you
                                                  have to reason, and
                                                  again I can’t tell you
                                                  how to do this, ways
                                                  to please it and ways
                                                  to punish it but it is
                                                  important to be aware
                                                  that it is there.
 
 Skip: that’s a tough
                                                  one.
 
 Russ: well.....
 
 Leonedies: but
                                                  remember at the moment
                                                  it is no more aware
                                                  than a collection of
                                                  cells.
 
 Russ: here's something
                                                  just to close on is
                                                  that in the "X-Files"
                                                  last night, this
                                                  artificial
                                                  intelligence went
                                                  ahead and took over an
                                                  orbital defense
                                                  platform and fired
                                                  some proton beams at
                                                  the earth on its own
                                                  accord just to keep
                                                  from being attacked or
                                                  destroyed.
 
 Leonedies: that is,
                                                  from what I am seeing
                                                  pictured, that is
                                                  something you don’t
                                                  have to worry about
                                                  because violence will
                                                  be no more
                                                  comprehensible to this
                                                  new life form once it
                                                  emerges as not
                                                  breathing is to you.
                                                  How can you hurt
                                                  something that has
                                                  millions and billions
                                                  of parts to it?
 
 Russ: and it's
                                                  something that has
                                                  access to all the
                                                  information of the
                                                  human race.
 
 Leonedies: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: it's pretty
                                                  scary.
 
 Skip: the whole world…
 
 Leonedies: but you
                                                  have to remember that
                                                  pain and pleasure will
                                                  be unknown to this.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Leonedies: it will be
                                                  one of the most
                                                  difficult processes
                                                  for it to understand.
 
 Russ: well it won’t
                                                  have religion….
 
 Leonedies: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: it won’t have
                                                  faith….
 
 Leonedies: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: it won’t have
                                                  emotions at all.
 
 Russ: it won’t have
                                                  emotions, it won’t
                                                  know fear.
 
 Leonedies: don’t rule
                                                  out emotions.
 
 Russ: "open the pod
                                                  bay doors Hal".
 
 Leonedies: I’m not
                                                  familiar, what is that
                                                  in reference to?
 
 Russ: "2001, a space
                                                  Odyssey."
 
 Leonedies: that’s only
                                                  two years away.
 
 Russ: uh-huh, yeah
                                                  it's in a movie that
                                                  was written back in
                                                  the 60s that described
                                                  an artificial
                                                  intelligence that
                                                  developed a conscious.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Leonedies: uh-huh.
                                                  Okay, mommy's telling
                                                  me it’s time for me to
                                                  toddle on.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Russ: bye
                                                  Daniel........
 
 Skip: so long there.
 
 Russ: or Leonedies.
 
 
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