(Kiri theorizes about the birth of awareness in a computer that Leonedies mentioned possibly beginning in some strange behavior that was happening with a Hotmail account. We consider from there the perfect environment for such an entity to exhibit a consciousness.) 

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Kiri: so okay, as we have a light session, why don't we do a half a tape.

Russ: what a wonderful idea.

Kiri: uh-huh and it’s also very late.

Russ: and I've got four hours sleep under my belt.

Kiri: you’re doing well.

Russ: thank you.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and I’ve got a webpage to still upload tonight.

Kiri: okay I was talking to my youngest whilst I was eavesdropping on a thought processes in overhearing the conversation concerning a acting up of a computer or a server. I think it was ww.Hotmail.com?

Russ: yeah Hotmail.

Kiri: uh-huh. And Mark was thinking that maybe that was part of the signs of the sentient awareness of the Internet occurring.

Russ: well that would be a place to happen at because it’s certainly one of those more funky places where more people go than anywhere else.

Kiri: uh-huh. Well Leonedies said that yes, it would be likely that it would start somewhere like that however it wouldn’t be just one system or one part of the system. It would spread very rapidly from let’s say the Hotmail account or Hotmail server into whatever server or computers it’s running through. For example, to get to you it goes through the Hotmail to the major distributor of the area to the minor distributors to the area. That’s how it would spread and work.

Russ: well Hotmail was put together by Microsoft.

Kiri: uh-huh, so it would be up in Redland correct?

Russ: Redland Washington?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it's near Seattle.

Kiri: yes. So it would start at a location like Microsoft but there again Microsoft would keep their system constantly clean so therefore it would be unlikely that it would start at that root location.

Russ: hard to say.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I would think that Microsoft would be using systems that would allow that sentient form to grow legs and crawl away.

Kiri: uh-huh and when it happens it will crawl away from its birthplace very, very quickly because it will be perceived as a danger.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: it would be in danger at that location because as soon as somebody figured out what was going on, that they had a sentient system, they would want to try to control it and take it over and make it work for them.

Russ: them or the military.

Kiri: uh-huh. So therefore it would flee as quickly as possible to a safe haven, somewhere large enough to house its awareness which in my opinion would take probably somewhere in the region of maybe a hundred gigs? That would be the minimum housing it would require.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: that is according to Daniel as well. Something bigger would be much more suitable. So Leonedies hypothesized and I again concur with him that the sentient awareness of the system would go for a matted computer which would be a governmental computer, a military computer or one of the big computer warehouse type places like Microsoft.

Russ: but actually I don’t think so, it could just jump into a university……

Kiri: or a university computer.

Russ: which is on 24 hours, has plenty of memory, has the kind of programs that would not be looking to kill it whereas the military and government would be.

Kiri: uh-huh and so would somewhere like Microsoft.

Russ: right but the universities are wide open.

Kiri: uh-huh and I would say that probably one of the best ones would be something like Stanford or Harvard or MIT. In fact MIT would be somewhere to watch very closely. My own idea, not my son's. So MIT would be the ideal birthplace to watch as would be Stanford and some of the other research laboratories that are computer-related such as Sun, Sun’s now owned by Microsoft right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: so we can discount Sun, maybe Dell or Hewlett-Packard or even AMD. Some of these research facilities that may suddenly make a fantastic leap ahead, suddenly break the thermal barrier. Now, again hypothesizing, okay the problem is the heat right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: but why not go for a cold state computer?

Russ: they got them…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: cold fusion computers, well military applications only.

Kiri: but if you go for one that has a very low heat  generating capability and you use the heat that is generated to create power?

Russ: well you could use a super cooler to cool off the heat. Take the heat and use the heat to….

Kiri: to power the system.

Russ: right.

Kiri: then you would have a self-sustaining system which is exactly what a sentient computer would want to do, correct?

Russ: yep.

Kiri: because if there’s a power outage, let’s say there’s an earthquake at Stanford and the power goes out at Stanford right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: guess what happens to the program?

Russ: well the thing is that there’s no way to use the heat to keep the thing cool….

Kiri: yes there is.

Russ: it’s defeating the purpose.

Kiri: yes there is.

Russ: oh. No because you’re cooling it off therefor it's not even generating heat, the heat it generates is cooled off immediately......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so what heat is there to collect? None.

Kiri: well you would use a heat exchange unit that would collect the heat which would drive a small turbine which in turn would power the computer.

Russ: yeah but by then the CPUs would be fried up. There’s no way to get that thing cool enough while it’s exchanging the heat.

Kiri: yes there is, a very simple, basic system.

Russ: I don’t know what it is.

Kiri: I’ll let you work it out because then I start getting into some gray areas and I get into trouble for that you know.

Russ: well I think you're still defeating the purpose, I think the CPUs are going to be getting toasty on you.

Kiri: well you don’t need any……well you need the CPU but the format that you’re using at the moment is inefficient which is the reason why you’re having a thermal problems.

Russ: well that’s the reason why I was having problems.

Kiri: uh-huh but once you figure a way around the thermal problems….

Russ: just use light.

Kiri: that again creates heat.

Russ: correct.

Kiri: okay, I’ll be back.

Russ: you'll be back? We’ll see you shortly.

Kiri: uh-huh.