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                 (Omal talks about
                      the coercers of Sirius and how disciplined they
                      have to be and are special from the other skills.
                      He warns that the abuse of coercion can lead to an
                      appearance of no emotions due to its feeding back
                      on itself.)
 
 
 John: can I ask you questions
                          about coercion?
 
 Omal: certainly as our resident coercer is
                          absent this evening, you may.
 
 John: can you use coercion with animals and
                          machines?
 
 Omal: machines, they do not have a mind to
                          think with but animals most certainly.
 
 John: like an attacking dog.....
 
 Omal: certainly.
 
 John: you can definitely coerce them out of
                          running the other way.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 John:
                                                          coercion from
                                                          my very
                                                          limited, young
                                                          metaphysical
                                                          standpoint, is
                                                          coercion
                                                          something that
                                                          you can easily
                                                          do……easier to
                                                          do with
                                                          animals or
                                                          with people?
 
 Omal: animals,
                                                          it depends on
                                                          their
                                                          instinctual
                                                          level. People,
                                                          it can be
                                                          harder but it
                                                          can also be
                                                          easier. There
                                                          are people
                                                          that are very
                                                          weak-willed
                                                          that you can
                                                          manipulate and
                                                          twist without
                                                          even thinking
                                                          about it just
                                                          by using your
                                                          voice and
                                                          words alone.
                                                          Those people
                                                          are the
                                                          easiest to
                                                          manipulate. It
                                                          is like
                                                          animals that
                                                          are very….
 
 John: weak?
 
 Omal: yes
                                                          weak, that was
                                                          not the word
                                                          that I was
                                                          looking for
                                                          but it is
                                                          well-suited,
                                                          that is able
                                                          to be
                                                          manipulated
                                                          like as Kiri
                                                          would say a
                                                          puppet on a
                                                          string. A
                                                          strong coercer
                                                          will not use
                                                          his voice or
                                                          her voice,
                                                          they will use
                                                          their mind.
 
 John: okay, I
                                                          can use my
                                                          voice…..
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 John: and get
                                                          results but I
                                                          haven’t been
                                                          able to use my
                                                          mind totally
                                                          because I
                                                          don’t think
                                                          I’m
                                                          disciplined
                                                          enough.
 
 Omal: it is
                                                          something that
                                                          they are very
                                                          disciplined
                                                          on. On Sirius,
                                                          coercers are
                                                          set aside and
                                                          they become
                                                          very
                                                          disciplined
                                                          individuals.
                                                          Frequently
                                                          after they
                                                          have finished
                                                          their coercive
                                                          education they
                                                          will become
                                                          disciplined
                                                          rebels would
                                                          be a good way
                                                          to describe
                                                          them. They
                                                          become very
                                                          rebellious and
                                                          boisterous in
                                                          nature but
                                                          about their
                                                          coercive
                                                          ability they
                                                          are very
                                                          protective and
                                                          disciplined.
                                                          They will not
                                                          readily use
                                                          their coercive
                                                          ability as
                                                          they know what
                                                          can happen if
                                                          they abuse it.
 
 John: so if I
                                                          understand you
                                                          correctly, you
                                                          need
                                                          discipline to
                                                          do coercion
                                                          correctly….
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 John: and then
                                                          once you’ve
                                                          mastered
                                                          coercion, you
                                                          need
                                                          discipline to
                                                          maintain your
                                                          mastery.
 
 Omal: correct
                                                          and to avoid
                                                          abusing it. If
                                                          you abuse it,
                                                          it feeds back
                                                          on itself and
                                                          you become
                                                          somebody that
                                                          has no
                                                          emotions, and
                                                          I do not mean
                                                          the appearance
                                                          of no
                                                          emotions, I
                                                          mean no
                                                          emotions. No
                                                          remorse, no
                                                          pain, no
                                                          guilt, nothing
                                                          that would
                                                          keep you on a
                                                          moral balance.
                                                          Sometimes this
                                                          happens to
                                                          individuals
                                                          that have a
                                                          high, natural
                                                          coercive
                                                          ability, they
                                                          become devoid
                                                          of emotions
                                                          because they
                                                          know that they
                                                          can use their
                                                          ability to get
                                                          whatever they
                                                          wish, from
                                                          whomever they
                                                          wish without
                                                          having to work
                                                          for it. So
                                                          therefore they
                                                          suffer as the
                                                          people that
                                                          they and use
                                                          and abuse
                                                          suffer and the
                                                          fact that they
                                                          have no
                                                          satisfaction
                                                          in anything
                                                          that they do.
                                                          They are
                                                          inside empty.
                                                          I believe you
                                                          know somebody
                                                          like that Skip
                                                          or knew
                                                          somebody like
                                                          that.
 
 Skip: yes I
                                                          did.
 
 Omal: okay,
                                                          next question.
 
 John: oh I’m
                                                          tapped out, I
                                                          mean I’ve
                                                          hogged most of
                                                          this, I
                                                          apologize to
                                                          everybody.
 
 Omal: yes,
                                                          you’re welcome
                                                          Johnny. Yes I
                                                          know that was
                                                          deliberate but
                                                          that, sorry
                                                          Johnny, was an
                                                          example of
                                                          coercion.
 
 Skip: you hit
                                                          awful close to
                                                          home there
                                                          young man.
 
 Omal: once
                                                          again, thank
                                                          you for the
                                                          comment on
                                                          young man
                                                          and.....
 
 Skip: it’s a
                                                          figure of
                                                          speech with
                                                          me.....
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Skip: I do
                                                          mean the
                                                          compliment,
                                                          that's
                                                          not.......
 
 Omal: oh I
                                                          take it as a
                                                          compliment.
 
 
 
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