(Treebeard gives an important lesson on trees and the fact that they have a chakra system like humans only inverted. The awareness only comes about in older trees though this does gives us a better understanding of inhabitants of our planet that have been more misunderstood than any other. He starts to point out at the end that building the kind of houses in the mountains you would find in warmer areas is a mistake before the tape runs out.) 

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Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: greetings Treebeard.

Treebeard: miss much not did I?

Russ: no, no, we had some enjoyable conversation, big news here and there….

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: but all in all it was quite an enlightening session.

Treebeard: hmm, give me one moment to wake befuddled mind.

Russ: feel free.

Treebeard: hmm, you want pet to give to bond mate? I have six little gifts that needs home.

Russ: ahh, the rabbits had rabbits.

Treebeard: rabbits did rabbits as is normal.

Russ: excellent, our children would love a rabbit actually.

Treebeard: I think of offering to little Tia but think best not to.

Russ: good call, good call, instincts and all. Anyway, we were discussing chakras and the human body, I’d like to if possible explore a little bit about chakras and the plant kingdom.

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: and whether or not the same rules apply between whether a living being such as a human having chakras….

Treebeard: you are talking of different, physical makeup where it is more of spiritual consciousness for tree as opposed to…..yes they being of trees?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: let us say trees of age having chakras.

Russ: ahhh.

Treebeard: chakras do develop but slowly over great time. Also chakra setup inverted.

Russ: inverted?

Treebeard: that word means upside down.

Russ: oh I see. Right, so instead of ours where they face up and down from us…..

Treebeard: with crown chakra for you on top root on bottom, it other way round for trees of great age.

Russ: oh I understand, I understand.

Treebeard: reason being you say you understand not, let us see if you understand.

Russ: okay.

Treebeard: elaborate.

Russ: well, you with a person, you were born as a body and a body would already have the chakras put together but as a tree, you’re going from just a small, little sapling into a tall tree therefore you have less space to work with as the chakras grow.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: therefore, you’d start with the crown chakra and work your way up to a root chakra, though of course root not being the same thing as roots of a tree.

Treebeard: pretty close……..

Russ: okay.

Treebeard: pretty close. I will fill in beings of blank. Chakras so tiny to be non-useful on seedlings and stay way of that for many years. When tree starts to be aware of comings and goings, chakras start to grow and expand but slowly also. It being in your terminology 70 cycles of planet around solar disk, being before chakra even starts to expand.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: so chakra and consciousness not necessarily one. Being of my consciousness state and working with devas and talking with devas, theory I being have is that devas have chakras that rotate at a rate that it is phenomenal.

Russ: I understand.

Treebeard: phenomenal being right word?

Russ: that’s right, uh-huh.

Treebeard: reasoning for this assumption is or rather reasoning for this supposition is that deva's time perception and inhabiting spiritual realm would be of higher revolutionary speed for them to shift from one dimensional state to a spiritual state.

Russ: uh-huh. So devas in interaction with trees would actually work with some of the older trees as you say 70 years plus with the tree’s chakras.

Treebeard: uh-huh. 70 cycles being equivalent to a infant.

Russ: right. Now we have some trees that were around at the birth of Christ or Sananda some 2,000 years ago.

Treebeard: you have some species that are far older.

Russ: ahh. So the chakra system in such a tree like that would be even more advanced or at least developed.

Treebeard: than?

Russ: than trees that were a bit younger.

Treebeard: that would be self-evident would it not?

Russ: true. So the question that comes about from that is, how much more aware then would those trees be?

Treebeard: obviously they would be a more aware than a sapling.

Russ: indeed.

Treebeard: or a tree of 70 cycles.

Russ: excellent.

Treebeard: that is self-evident is it not?

Russ: well the point that I’m reaching is, recently in the last week there was a ecological movement down here to save what’s called the Headwaters Forest in the redwood area which is one of the few old growth forests that are down here in the Pacific Northwest.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: and an agreement was reached that the land was sold to the government to be held in pituitary or.....

Treebeard: perpetuity.

Russ: perpetuity…..thank you.......in a pristine state so people could enjoy them instead of having them cut down for housing and paper. Such a forest then would hold within it a vast amount of awareness.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: and a walk through such a forest would be an enlightening experience then would it not?

Treebeard: and a spiritual experience.

Russ: quite right.

Treebeard: you have heard of tropical rain forests?

Russ: absolutely.

Treebeard: do you know what Headwaters Forest is?

Russ: no.

Treebeard: it is a temperate rain forest.

Russ: oh. Which would be a higher elevation then?

Treebeard: no, higher, what is word?

Russ: oh latitude?

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: I see, as you say, it is a spiritual experience and to see them wantonly cut down for purposes that are merely material would be a slap in the face.

Treebeard: but also they are necessary for your construction methods. If correctly cultivated what has been cleared, I think from what I learned from talking with host in his area, they have areas that they fell trees and as fell they replant.

Russ: right.

Treebeard: I think they call them plantation trees?

Russ: yes, reforestation projects.

Treebeard: so as they cut they replant and replace. Understand not why you not do that.

Russ: right. Well I personally feel that there's better things that we could use trees for than for building purposes but I mean we have the means to create artificial trees or artificial things that we make the trees out of for housing and stuff but we continue to use trees instead.

Treebeard: hmm, I do not understand.

Russ: well for example we use beams from trees to create houses whereas we could use plastics or something else to make those and they'd be stronger, resist infestation by termites and wood rot and things like that for thousands of years or at least hundreds of years.

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: it would be a better material though it’s not biodegradable but when you’re building a house you don’t want it to be anyway.

Treebeard: hmm, I understand what you think and believe and see in your mind and agree but also aesthetics plays a part. Think for a moment on construction of your dwelling.

Russ: uh-huh. Well…..

Treebeard: okay I see what your house made of.

Russ: right.

Treebeard: continue with your elaboration.

Russ: well our house here you see a lot of wood on the outside but most houses are beams that are covered in what's called drywall.....

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: and you never see the wood behind the drywall. You know it’s there but for the life of the house you’ll never see that wood.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: so what’s the point of using it if you're never going to see it anyway, why not use something that doesn’t destroy our ozone layer by cutting down major portions of what keeps the ozone in place?

Treebeard: uh-huh, I understand concern, I have different concern. You think of cold, I look at your thought processes and see how thick wall are?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: part of your problem is wall thickness.

Russ: yeah.

Treebeard: you have what we call warm weather home in cold…..

(The tape comes to an end)