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                 (Treebeard goes over the
                      relationship between trees and humans before
                      moving on to the relationship between trees and
                      devas. The maturity of trees determines their
                      consciousness with it being fully established in
                      trees that have been alive for three hundred
                      years.)
 
 
 Treebeard:
                                      greetings and hello.
 
 Russ: greetings Treebeard.
 
 Laura: hello.
 
 Skip: greetings Treebeard.
 
 Treebeard: I am hearing of a new
                                      voice?
 
 Laura: a voice that was there a
                                      couple weeks ago but is now healed
                                      to the point where you can hear
                                      it.
 
 Treebeard: ahh, you have fine
                                      vocal cords although being of
                                      little horse.
 
 Laura: thank you, they're getting
                                      better.
 
 Treebeard: that is being of good.
                                      Okay, where are we of talking? Oh
                                      yes, of devas and answers doing of
                                      questions.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Treebeard: after much
                                      contemplation, a explanation in
                                      connection of being devas and
                                      awareness of spirituality and
                                      focusness of them being in two
                                      places of at same time. From
                                      contemplation and interaction with
                                      the tree lifeforms in on your area
                                      of habitation, dwelling on this I
                                      have concluded that first
                                      necessary being for you for me to
                                      be short and to the point which
                                      will be difficult as the answer is
                                      long so I give abbreviated answer
                                      and open option for being of
                                      questioning. Now to address first
                                      part being question of trees
                                      leaving deva for second part of
                                      answer. First part being that the
                                      awareness ability of little young
                                      sprouting trees is of unimportance
                                      so pulling and harming them is no
                                      more harmful than plucking one of
                                      hair from head. But as awareness
                                      grows, and size grows, it is
                                      necessary to be more in tune with
                                      their awareness of time
                                      perception. Time perception much
                                      like that of deva can be over long
                                      time where a person standing by a
                                      tree for a moment is no more
                                      noticeable then of a molecule in
                                      front of face of you. But, house
                                      being built next to of great tree
                                      is noticeable when the house is of
                                      age itself. So a house that is
                                      being of 10 cycles of your planet
                                      is no more noticeable than a speck
                                      of dust in the sun. For a moment
                                      and a blink it is not along
                                      anymore. But a house of great age
                                      is noticeable as a person standing
                                      before you and talking for great
                                      time in your measurement. For
                                      example being of one twenty forth
                                      of your day. So a tree being of
                                      awareness depends on length of
                                      time however, if harm befall the
                                      tree at the hand of a physical
                                      moving being, such as mammal, then
                                      tree take notice and being aware
                                      learn that those cause harm and
                                      therefore becomes as you would be
                                      saying of "black at heart" towards
                                      that species. However tree also
                                      understand that sometimes being of
                                      necessary for help in removal of
                                      limbs that cause pain, problem, or
                                      damage or infested with parasitic
                                      life forms that it is unable to
                                      control of itself. So therefore to
                                      compare a tree's awareness of your
                                      species or any species is to
                                      compare it to a mote of dust
                                      floating in the sunlight for a
                                      moment. So therefore being of
                                      great age, you would have to be of
                                      doing good for a tree to be of
                                      noticing you. Most species of tree
                                      in your general locale are too
                                      young to be fully conscious of the
                                      environment and happenings around
                                      them. They are no more conscious
                                      than a fly is conscious, or a
                                      mayfly that is alive for one
                                      rotation of your planet being of
                                      one day. So it is hard for a tree
                                      to comprehend unless of great age.
                                      Now awareness starts to afix
                                      solidly after about a hundred
                                      cycles around your planet, tree
                                      starts to become more in tune but
                                      still of a juvenile level. As the
                                      tree becomes of greater age, to
                                      about 300 cycles around your solar
                                      disk, then awareness firmly fixed
                                      so therefore being of total
                                      consciousness and aware. Greater
                                      the age, greater the wisdom,
                                      different species being of
                                      different levels of awareness.
                                      Ones of great time being more
                                      deeply aware and more open to
                                      awareness of surroundings. First
                                      part of answer. Answer one
                                      question from each before
                                      proceeding to second answer
                                      concerning deva and interaction
                                      thereof.
 
 Russ: you once mentioned the trees
                                      on the very tops of the mountains
                                      behind my house on the ski slopes
                                      there as being of great age.
 
 Treebeard: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: a great age would that be
                                      over the 300 year fixed awareness
                                      cycle you mentioned?
 
 Treebeard: that is being of
                                      correct. Next person speaking
                                      question please.
 
 Laura: does age of trees matter so
                                      much when mammals or humans like
                                      to hug and talk to trees, send
                                      love?
 
 Treebeard: more feeling of emotion
                                      for brief moment of warmth and
                                      happiness as feline rubbing
                                      against you.
 
 Laura: but trees like?
 
 Treebeard: yes.
 
 Laura: huh.
 
 Treebeard: last person asking
                                      question?
 
 Skip: okay now, from what you're
                                      saying, the older a tree gets, the
                                      more conscious and awareness it is
                                      of what's going on with the
                                      environment and what's happening
                                      around it.
 
 Treebeard: that is of being of
                                      correct.
 
 Skip: okay, now in this area,
                                      there's not any trees older than a
                                      hundred years.
 
 Treebeard: so trees being of baby
                                      trees and awareness being that of
                                      a fly floating.....
 
 Skip: okay....
 
 Treebeard: but starting to grow in
                                      awareness.
 
 Skip: I'm sorry, because this
                                      whole mountain clear down to
                                      Carson City was clear cut at the
                                      turn of the century.
 
 Treebeard: I believe there are a
                                      few here and there that are parent
                                      trees and varieties that are too
                                      small to being of useful nature.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Treebeard: so there are little
                                      pockets as you would be of saying
                                      of trees of great age that are
                                      memory trees.
 
 Skip: okay, right.
 
 Treebeard: I will cover memory
                                      trees in a moment to explain with
                                      deva and interaction of
                                      deva.......
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Treebeard: very important. Ok,
                                      deva and interaction thereof in
                                      connection with being of trees.
                                      Devas as most are understanding go
                                      under many different forms and
                                      auspices. One being of forms of
                                      deities to locales being worshiped
                                      in a way by people for things that
                                      they look after. Being example the
                                      tree gods and duties for trees.
                                      This is important due to looking
                                      at trees at this being of time.
                                      Trees and devas, their primary
                                      function is to look after of trees
                                      as gardeners look after plants
                                      but, because of perception of time
                                      and explain briefly, time being a
                                      concept that devas being not
                                      understanding. A moment or one of
                                      your seconds may be of such great
                                      length of time you would perceive
                                      as eternity, a thousand years
                                      being to deva but of a second. So
                                      time is of different concept, one
                                      moment one, one moment the other.
                                      Much being done in both instances
                                      but, interaction of trees with
                                      deva is as protector tending to
                                      area by vibrations that would
                                      discourage or create feelings of
                                      great protection for area. Working
                                      in way that is for protection of
                                      trees. When big area threatened by
                                      as Skip being of mentioning clear
                                      cutting, devas congregate in areas
                                      and protect small areas so that
                                      memory of forest being of kept.
                                      Duties for devas at then become
                                      negative and hostile in a way that
                                      makes area a place where bad
                                      things happen. Negative side being
                                      of trees pick up on this
                                      vibrational feeling and in self
                                      become negative and nasty aiding
                                      in the protecting of area.
                                      Sometimes deva use of different
                                      tactic of making area so beautiful
                                      that people come to sit and relish
                                      in trees and do not touch of trees
                                      because it is such a relaxing and
                                      soothing area. Both purposes being
                                      done by devas for reasons that
                                      benefit at the time. Over time,
                                      let us say a stand of trees that
                                      has reputation for bad will become
                                      surrounded by younger trees that
                                      are lighter and fairer and the
                                      stand becomes old, dark and
                                      feeling of forebooding and not
                                      welcome but it does not expand out
                                      of old grove. In time, old grove
                                      fade away into memory and is being
                                      gone and trees around remember
                                      reason why that spot became dark
                                      and black to protect and in doing
                                      so honor area. In the forests of
                                      Europe, there are stands that have
                                      meadows that no trees now being of
                                      growing but if dig down deep find
                                      roots of many great trees. That
                                      being example of memory forest.
                                      Memory forests are being of very
                                      key and important for health of
                                      forest overall as keepers of
                                      memory but they being keeping of
                                      negative to themselves knowing
                                      that job is having been done for
                                      the greater good of forest around.
                                      On other side, devas that are
                                      being of cheerful light and beauty
                                      work with trees in way to make
                                      area so adorable and admirous that
                                      it becomes spot of great light and
                                      joy and always have feeling of
                                      mystic. All that I have mentioned
                                      concerning trees are being done by
                                      devas to protect in one way or
                                      another. So devas being of
                                      guardians for particular groups
                                      such as being of mentioning trees.
                                      It is important for moment to say
                                      that trees and deva trees, that is
                                      devas that look after trees is
                                      very key to the issue of devas. To
                                      understanding of deva then
                                      necessary to understanding of
                                      tree, one being interchangeable
                                      for the other in understanding but
                                      not in physical form. After all,
                                      deva only being visible when deva
                                      wish though to be noticed. But
                                      deva of protecting of great trees
                                      will work whatever it perceiving
                                      of best for area of trees. So
                                      devas find necessary to use both
                                      to protect. Sometimes groups of
                                      devas of different kinds, being
                                      example devas of fire, will work
                                      with devas of trees to help clear
                                      out old or young, weak or sick
                                      being of trees to facilitate
                                      maximum growth effect for trees
                                      overall. So devas being playing of
                                      many parts for understanding and
                                      protection of the trees. Also if
                                      human being in state of different
                                      consciousness can tap both the
                                      awareness of trees and the
                                      awareness of devas and feel the
                                      hand of devas and trees. How to do
                                      so I will save for another time.
                                      Does this answer your question
                                      satisfactorily Russ?
 
 Russ: yes it does.
 
 Treebeard: it is not as long as I
                                      would hope to give but as I
                                      stated, one of your recording
                                      devices would not be enough for an
                                      answer.
 
 Russ: no, this gave me a lot of
                                      good clues.
 
 Skip: yeah.
 
 Treebeard: ok, let us discuss what
                                      you wish to ask as questions.
 
 Russ: okay, to my understanding
                                      then, understanding trees will
                                      help you to gain more of an
                                      understanding of devas?
 
 Treebeard: yes and being of no.
                                      You have to understand both at
                                      same time to understand one.
 
 Russ: okay, so gaining an insight
                                      into the consciousness of the way
                                      the tree works helps you in
                                      starting the comprehension of
                                      beginning to feel the
                                      consciousness of the deva that
                                      helps the tree?
 
 Treebeard: that is being closer to
                                      truth.
 
 Russ: ok.
 
 Treebeard: yes to answer a
                                      question, very much being like a
                                      druid. A tree-hugging druid I
                                      think word would being of used.
 
 Russ: hmm, Skip?
 
 Skip: I've got kind of a
                                      problematic question here I guess.
                                      We use....the human race uses
                                      trees for building and other
                                      products like paper and so on and
                                      so forth, are we destroying the
                                      devas and the trees by using these
                                      things as we do and growing new
                                      ones in their place?
 
 Treebeard: one thing being of
                                      devas cannot being destroyed and
                                      being of wood used is normally
                                      young wood that has not a fixed
                                      firmly consciousness. So therefore
                                      growing trees to farm them to
                                      supply carpentry materials is no
                                      more harmful than what devas do to
                                      grow trees so that they may aid in
                                      growth of forest. So it is not
                                      negative.
 
 Skip: in other words we're not
                                      destroying our own environment?
 
 Treebeard: no, as long as being of
                                      replacing.
 
 Skip: yeah, they replace them now
                                      which they didn't use to. People
                                      have gotten wiser about harvesting
                                      lumber.
 
 Treebeard: yes, so I am of
                                      understanding.
 
 Russ: now two locations where I
                                      have seen examples of the good and
                                      the bad trees, one would be the
                                      good tree location I have been to
                                      has been Muir Woods on the coast,
                                      Pacific coast.
 
 Skip: Muir Woods?
 
 Russ: yeah, the Muir Woods
                                      redwoods forest. It is a protected
                                      area.....it has paths going
                                      through it and many tourists go
                                      through there. When you go through
                                      there it's just a religious
                                      experience. And then as I was
                                      saying, the ones up on top of
                                      Heavenly (A ski resort), it's
                                      almost as if they're angry at
                                      something. Just from what they
                                      experience with the wind and the
                                      people chopping them down to make
                                      ski runs and things like that, it
                                      almost seems like you don't want
                                      to go into the trees.
 
 Treebeard: that being example of
                                      both, I'm not familiar with both
                                      areas but if image being of
                                      projected then yes, examples being
                                      of such.
 
 Russ: ok.
 
 Skip: well the ones on the coast
                                      Treebeard are probably between a
                                      1,000 and 3,000 years old, they
                                      are mammoth redwoods okay?
 
 Treebeard: so they being of memory
                                      trees?
 
 Skip: yes, very much so. And the
                                      ones on top of the mountain here
                                      at Heavenly are approximately a
                                      hundred years old.
 
 Treebeard: the image being
                                      projected by Russ is of little
                                      stunted trees of.....
 
 Skip: oh I see what you're saying
                                      okay.
 
 Treebeard: other trees lower down
                                      being of…..keep thinking Russ…of
                                      little young trees that have no
                                      more memory than being of a hair.
 
 Russ: but they wouldn't have
                                      wanted the wood up there at the
                                      top, it's just too stunted.
 
 Skip: it is all gnarled and
                                      twisted and everything else from
                                      the weather.
 
 Russ: yes but there is life there,
                                      they are growing but they're old.
 
 Treebeard: by what being
                                      projected, they make trees in
                                      coastal grove look like babies.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: so they have lots of
                                      awareness to them but after let's
                                      say a 1,000 years of harsh winters
                                      and snow covering them and getting
                                      blasted, no love being shown, how
                                      do devas work with trees like
                                      that?
 
 Treebeard: they attract like devas
                                      that have been used and
                                      manipulated and forced to do other
                                      people's doing so they become
                                      likewise.
 
 Russ: so people can force devas to
                                      do something?
 
 Treebeard: it depends on how you
                                      define force. Change an
                                      environment can be described as
                                      force, using changing for negative
                                      will make deva become likewise,
                                      changing for positive with good
                                      intent, deva become likewise. It
                                      is reflection of energy being
                                      transmitted that devas use.
 
 Russ: hmm, okay.
 
 Treebeard: and I apologize for
                                      amount of energy being given off.
 
 Russ: oh no problem.
 
 Skip: no that's fine, that's fine
                                      Treebeard.
 
 Russ: now a couple notes on my
                                      little local area of gardening in
                                      my backyard. To appease my devas
                                      that hang out there or deva, I'm
                                      trying to think of some good ideas
                                      that they would work well with as
                                      far as helping the growth and one
                                      idea I had was putting out some
                                      cinder blocks to portion off some
                                      certain parts of the garden where
                                      we have little garden areas. And
                                      then putting potting soil with
                                      little plants inside the holes of
                                      them.
 
 Treebeard: no I think not of good
                                      idea. Maybe something more of
                                      natural.
 
 Russ: like a wood?
 
 Treebeard: that being of good
                                      idea. Wood would be of breaking
                                      down and returning nutrient to of
                                      soil.
 
 Russ: oh okay.
 
 Skip: how about a rock wall?
                                      Natural rock wall….
 
 Treebeard: that would being of
                                      working but cinder block…thank you
                                      for projection…is looking like of
                                      being made by using chemicals to
                                      bind.
 
 Russ: good idea. So an actual
                                      slate or something like that to
                                      wall it in perhaps.
 
 Skip: because cinder blocks are
                                      made with concrete and sand.
 
 Treebeard: young lady, you are
                                      being of wanting question?
 
 Laura: listening more.
 
 Treebeard: ahhh …but perceiving
                                      question wandering in mind.
 
 Laura: not so much a question,
                                      just seeing flow of thoughts that
                                      work for good.
 
 Treebeard: ahhh yes, to answer
                                      question but not being of spoken,
                                      it is sometimes being best to be
                                      as you say, watching and listening
                                      but also to vocalize suspicions of
                                      questions that need to be
                                      formulated to answer to make life
                                      more understandable and to answer
                                      of being self, not self of doubt
                                      of perceptions.
 
 Laura: no doubt really, more a
                                      question really.
 
 Treebeard: okay, let us proceed
                                      and answer of more questions.
 
 Russ: okay, I'm needing to work
                                      with various plant life to liven
                                      up areas and stuff and I'm
                                      wondering about the difference
                                      between perennials and annuals and
                                      which one I should use to do so.
 
 Treebeard: being of depending of
                                      amount of work you wish to do. If
                                      wishing to be of replanting over
                                      and over again in different forms
                                      and ways, then annuals being of
                                      best way to go. But if being of
                                      wishing not to do as much, then
                                      perennials that grow depending on
                                      speed, size and shape being of
                                      best way for that purpose.
 
 Russ: hmm, something that takes
                                      care of itself hopefully.
 
 Treebeard: then being which would
                                      be of better?
 
 Russ: probably the perennial.
 
 Treebeard: that being of answer.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Treebeard: for moment I think of
                                      giving you answer but think not
                                      that it would be best for you to
                                      being of thinking questions
                                      oneself…answer oneself. Being
                                      forgiveness beg, English not of my
                                      language.
 
 Russ: no worries.
 
 
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