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                 (Treebeard
                        speculates on what dimension devas exist in,
                        their history and evolution. He also describes
                        various types of devas and how they will work
                        together to achieve a goal such as a tree deva
                        and a fire deva. He finishes by recalling how he
                        met a deva in his youth.)
 
 
 Treebeard:
                                      greetings.
 
 Russ: greetings Treebeard.
 
 Treebeard: greetings young man,
                                      greetings other young man.
 
 Skip: thank you sir.
 
 Treebeard: you are welcome. Okay
                                      now we are continuing on answer of
                                      deva and trees are we not of?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Treebeard: okay, in continuing on
                                      relationship between tree deva and
                                      of trees, it is necessary to
                                      address history of deva and coming
                                      from. Now it is speculated and I
                                      emphasize of speculation that
                                      devas are of immense age. In
                                      evolutionary terms, it would be of
                                      saying that they are ascended but
                                      not ascended to next level. They
                                      are somewhere between the two. If
                                      looking at natural progression of
                                      going from third to sixth to
                                      seventh to eighth, devas being of
                                      somewhere between all but of being
                                      none. So theologists of sixth
                                      dimension and higher speculate
                                      that evolution would give option
                                      for either ascending to next
                                      dimensional level or becoming as
                                      of like deva if staying in on one
                                      dimension but continuing spiritual
                                      growth. So it is more of a point
                                      of view that is neither
                                      confirmable or deniable on what
                                      part devas are being of from. It
                                      is certainly a possible theorize
                                      that they were once of being third
                                      dimensional species or maybe still
                                      being of third dimensional
                                      species. But to speculate on their
                                      evolution is something that is of
                                      great interest but only as a
                                      debatable topic for discussion
                                      amongst learned minds but it opens
                                      all realms of possibles to discuss
                                      their evolution. Now connection
                                      with of trees is something that is
                                      also of open to discussion. Other
                                      kinds of devas being possible
                                      different other races that take
                                      their avenue of development into
                                      ethereal beings so that it would
                                      be difficult to speculate on
                                      different other devas being
                                      similar to tree devas. But tree
                                      devas are being my interest as I
                                      am interested in of trees,
                                      otherwise I would not have assumed
                                      for your convenience name of
                                      Treebeard. But it is also for
                                      speculation again on why they are
                                      picking of trees or not something
                                      other than trees. Trees covering
                                      flora and fauna as well of being.
                                      So the connection being between
                                      tree and deva is a relationship
                                      that is debatable for great length
                                      of time and answers are only
                                      speculationary. So that it would
                                      be desirable to be opening for you
                                      to also join in this of discussion
                                      of tree devas and trees on why the
                                      relationship being there for so.
 
 Russ: okay, one thing that comes
                                      to mind from what you just said
                                      was a relationship that the first
                                      colonists had upon their arrival
                                      here on earth from Sirius and
                                      other places and setting up on
                                      Atlantis. The devas were one of
                                      the seven races that came to help
                                      set up that.
 
 Treebeard: I am not knowing
                                      whether that is being so, all's I
                                      know is of Sirius.
 
 Russ: Omal explained that to us.
 
 Treebeard: okay, assuming so.
 
 Russ: okay so at one point devas
                                      had a working relationship with
                                      the people who were here and since
                                      then we've seen of course stories
                                      of them and working with humans as
                                      far as in our mythologies where
                                      it's estimated that devas are some
                                      of our mythological beings that
                                      we've encountered and wrote
                                      stories on. And then we see in
                                      current times, places like in
                                      Stonehenge (Findhorn actually) in
                                      Scotland where they work with
                                      devas on a natural progression
                                      base as helping them to grow
                                      things. Not treating it as much as
                                      others.
 
 (needing less fertilizer or none
                                      at all)
 
 Treebeard: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: so it seems to me that you
                                      know it's still a continuing
                                      working relationship that we have
                                      with them, is this why then it's
                                      important for us to realize our
                                      relationship with them and try to
                                      maintain that?
 
 Treebeard: yes I am thinking that
                                      it would be suitable to continue
                                      such relationships, devas have
                                      much of offering. As for their
                                      evolution, as I stated, it is open
                                      of debatable matter that they are
                                      a step in a different direction in
                                      evolution. The connection that
                                      some devas have with trees and
                                      flora and fauna is something that
                                      again is debatable but useful to
                                      continue that relationship as a
                                      third dimensional species being
                                      you with the devas.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Skip: well from the way it appears
                                      to me, the third dimensional
                                      people have lost contact with the
                                      devas, the majority of the people
                                      because they've become city
                                      dwellers and they're not aware of
                                      what's going on. They've kind of
                                      lost that contact, that spiritual
                                      contact with the devas of trees
                                      and flora and fauna as you
                                      suggested but they're still there.
 
 Treebeard: oh yes they do not go
                                      away, they continue doing what
                                      they do but without interaction of
                                      the human species. But there are
                                      other kinds of devas other than
                                      the ones that care for flora and
                                      fauna. There are ones that take
                                      care of aquatic life forms,
                                      dwellers of the forest such as the
                                      animals you have with the long
                                      horns on their heads with many
                                      branches? So it would be saying
                                      that they have lost connection
                                      with the wild countryside devas.
                                      However dealing with of devas
                                      connecting with city of life, it
                                      would be of different.
 
 Skip: okay, thank you. I am aware
                                      and I think Russ is too and Mark
                                      that people are starting to come
                                      back to this though, they're
                                      starting to become aware of what's
                                      going on other than just ignoring
                                      it continuously.
 
 Treebeard: I would of thinking so
                                      too as noting comments in previous
                                      sessions that it is of more
                                      awareness. But I cover just one
                                      species of deva, there are many
                                      other species of deva.
 
 Russ: so it's kind of like each
                                      deva has sort of like, they work
                                      within their own species of deva
                                      and yet they also interact with
                                      the other species also to maintain
                                      the harmony that they are all
                                      established in?
 
 Treebeard: yes as stated in recent
                                      of conversations we having, devas
                                      of fire will often work with devas
                                      of wood.
 
 Skip: in other words they make a
                                      harmonic community.
 
 Treebeard: that is being of
                                      correct. Pardon my curiosity...
 
 (picks up something and examines
                                      it)
 
 Russ: no, no, feel free.
 
 Treebeard: I think we should be
                                      asking if I may pardon myself on
                                      you.
 
 Russ: one thing that comes to mind
                                      is with the devas and how they
                                      work together. They have a sort
                                      of, if we were to assume that what
                                      we've seen to this point a perfect
                                      community that they work with,
                                      they work in harmony with each
                                      other, there's no money, no greed,
                                      no desire to hurt others, merely
                                      to protect. It's almost as if
                                      they've gone beyond eighth
                                      dimension perhaps, I don't know,
                                      and yet still maintain that
                                      relationship with third.
 
 Treebeard: to speculate on whether
                                      they have progressed beyond the
                                      eighth is unknown. They are
                                      definitely aware of many different
                                      things but also of different
                                      perspectives which is alien of us
                                      so being saying that they are
                                      higher is open to speculation and
                                      for theological discussion or
                                      other forms of discussion.
                                      Certainly they definitely do being
                                      of a harmonic balance with each
                                      other and of other things, however
                                      to say that they are incapable of
                                      harm is something that is again
                                      open to of speculation. But you
                                      are right in prefacing that by
                                      saying that they will protect
                                      their chosen avenue of care such
                                      as tree devas protecting of trees.
 
 Skip: uh-huh, uh-huh.
 
 Russ: now one clue I'm wondering
                                      then if I could ask is, if we were
                                      to look back on history's
                                      mythologies and look at where man
                                      has taken their belief systems and
                                      perhaps transfered them from the
                                      devas to their deities that we see
                                      a little more deeper understanding
                                      of how devas work?
 
 Treebeard: I will answer in
                                      moment, I will answer another
                                      question first. With devas of
                                      others concerning the abodes that
                                      city persons dwell in, it would be
                                      a different perspective on seeing
                                      the interaction with a let us say
                                      house deva that take cares of
                                      fires and take cares of water
                                      dwellings in the house that is
                                      being of constructed and coming to
                                      an abode that is compatible for
                                      them as well as for third
                                      dimensional lifeforms. Getting to
                                      Russ' question, it is possible
                                      that devas are being perceived in
                                      some cases as deities. That has
                                      been covered before under names of
                                      deities that Druids of using and
                                      learning of Druids. In some
                                      aspects Druids are much as we were
                                      a long time ago. Even before of my
                                      thinking of conception but the
                                      relationship with deities and
                                      devas is one difficult to pin down
                                      because of mentalities and thought
                                      processes of devas.
 
 Russ: hmm, now have you met a deva
                                      before?
 
 Treebeard: yes I being have of
                                      calling for my garden on home.
 
 Russ: that's right. And your
                                      impression of the deva was one of
                                      love?
 
 Treebeard: great age and
                                      comprehension but of different
                                      perception.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Treebeard: it is much as I have
                                      different perception of things as
                                      you do. What is plural of you when
                                      addressing two persons?
 
 Russ: umm, you.
 
 Treebeard: ah, okay I thought of
                                      saying you's but it did not sound
                                      of right.
 
 Russ: no you had it right.
 
 Skip: uh-hmm, that is correct
                                      Treebeard.
 
 Treebeard: so it is of you's that
                                      it is different perception for
                                      devas of trees and fauna and flora
                                      than you you's have of them. But
                                      working with them is of
                                      satisfactory to both mutually
                                      beneficial. I answer of your
                                      question concerning house devas,
                                      was that being of adequate?
 
 Skip: uh-hmm, yeah. In other
                                      words, it sounds in my perception
                                      as if they're a steady caregiver.
 
 Treebeard: yes that would be one
                                      way of describing them, as being a
                                      caregiver, not of physical but of
                                      spiritual being of harmony.
                                      Keeping spiritually clean as
                                      possible.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Skip: that would be kind of a
                                      simple way of putting it.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Skip: yeah.
 
 Treebeard: sometimes most simple
                                      way is best explanation. Having of
                                      difficulty in explaining in easy
                                      terms what I am of knowing makes
                                      it hard to word in way that would
                                      be easier to say as I lack full
                                      comprehension of yours languages.
 
 Skip: no I don't think so. No you
                                      do a fantastic job, it's just that
                                      different people interpret things
                                      differently.
 
 Treebeard: I think of correct. I
                                      listen to Madame ambassador and
                                      younger sister talk in English and
                                      much talk different than I do.
                                      They talk as you talk because I
                                      feel of them thinking in your
                                      language. I sadly do not of being
                                      able to do so.
 
 Russ: you do get your point across
                                      in all......
 
 Skip: well I'll tell you what, you
                                      do a hell of a job.
 
 Treebeard: I am of honored.
 
 Skip: you really do.
 
 Treebeard: you have many words
                                      that I use I know of incorrect but
                                      structures of your language is
                                      difficult when dealing with many
                                      different forms of adjectives,
                                      nouns, past tense, pro-tense,
                                      fore-tense, past, present, future,
                                      it all becomes of very confusing.
 
 Skip: yeah it would, yeah it
                                      would, we've got a very
                                      complicated language.
 
 Treebeard: I am thinking much of
                                      it being so.
 
 Skip: we really do.
 
 Treebeard: okay, anymore
                                      of....yes?
 
 Skip: no.
 
 Russ: no.
 
 Skip: I think that covers it for
                                      this evening.
 
 Treebeard: I thought I pick up on
                                      one more question?
 
 Russ: no.
 
 Treebeard: okay.
 
 Skip: no, thank you Treebeard.
 
 Russ: thank you Treebeard.
 
 Treebeard: you are welcome. Roots
                                      and twigs may grow.
 
 
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