(Treebeard compares the evolution of our species to a banyan tree with a central main trunk made up of primates leading to all the various branches. Next, he answers a question he had been dwelling on concerning the time perception of devas. We learn that they experience all events simultaneously and inhabit many different universes at the same time. No wonder they are considered gods. Our conversation attracts the local deva hanging around the house at the time named Diana so he shows us how to tune into her. Some bonus information he provides is the name of a deva on Sirius and what it represents.) 

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Treebeard: hmmm.

Russ: greetings Treebeard.

Treebeard: greetings Russ.

Russ: I'd like to introduce Skip.

Treebeard: greetings Skip. You have like Russ, you have shortened name?

Russ: uh-huh, nickname.

Skip: nickname.

The Baron: ahhh, like I have nickname also.

Skip: it’s not my proper name.

Treebeard: Treebeard is not mine either.

Skip: there you go.

Treebeard: okay I suppose I should answer your question Russ should I not?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: your question was…..

Russ: on the sentience of plants.

Treebeard: we did answer that one.

Russ: oh that’s right, this is the one afterwards.

Treebeard: okay as you cannot remember I will answer. In developing a higher understanding of the interaction with the harmony of the land being the rocks, the trees, the birds, the beings in the water, it is intertwined in such a way that we are being connected with all. If you look at the great trees and their root systems, the way that they probe deep within the land and connect with the land. There is a variety of tree that sends out many roots and from those roots will sprout forth younger trees out of the ground as if from seeds.

Russ: hmmm.

Treebeard: these continue and propagate over a wide area through one of these methods. The disbursement of their pods are being for wider disbursement, more for peripheral branches that have come above the ground. In looking at the nature of this plant, it is similar to your species on how it is weaved close together but spreads out from a central source. In observing the growth patterns of certain species of trees, you will notice similarities in the behavioral patterns of your species and in the way that it develops its branching characteristics from a central source. If you were to look at other species of tree in your tropics, you will see that they send out above ground roots that tap into the ground and spread the tree in a similar way so that you have an immense tree. I see that I am being long-winded.

Russ: no not at all.

Treebeard: okay I answer, you ask.

Russ: okay, I saw an example of the last tree you mentioned down in Mexico, southern Mexico where I was just at and they’re called a mango…..and the tree…..or a mangrove……and the tree came out, stretched all the way to the ground in parts off of its trunk and big separate trunks came down to the ground and came into the ground and actually the tree would actually spread out as if it is on pillars.

(Ed. note: the tree in question was actually a banyan tree)

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: a trunk will be held up by 4 or 5 pillars all the way across and it was just a huge, beautiful tree.

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: but the question I have is concerning our species being related to a tree and how it branches out from a central source.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: would the central source that you were mentioning then be the primates of our planet then?

Treebeard: yes, I would think that that would go without saying that the original individuals would be the original trunk and then all the myriad of other little trunks and branches being representing of moving to different locations migrating from the central source.

Russ: hmmm.

Treebeard: sorry, migrating is wrong word, migrating means to go from one point to another and then back again from that point back to the same point going backwards and forwards between two points is that correct?

Russ: correct.

Treebeard: a better word be immigrate?

Russ: uh-huh, much better. Okay, I'll wait on the next question, Skip?

Skip: no, I’m just listening.

Russ: okay, the other question I have was our species, if it goes back before the primates, goes to the almost the single cell amoebas of early, early times.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: and that would more properly be linked to our trunk then as far as the roots I would assume then.

Treebeard: it depends on how far you wish to take the analogy.

Russ: hmm. Well the reason I say so is because that would put us more in touch with our planet.

Treebeard: yes but to think that you are not part of your planet as I said last time is wrong.

Russ: right.

Treebeard: to think that you are not natural as I said is very wrong.

Russ: right.

Treebeard: and in a court of discussion on theology, it would be conceived as condescending for your species to say that it is outside of the laws that govern nature.

Russ: uh-hmm.

Treebeard: or any species it would be wrong for them to say such a thing.

Russ: I see. So our living in harmony with our planet is something that we must come together on as a planetary people, not as individual states and countries.

Treebeard: yes and no. Individual states and countries and counties and cities can work individually towards the same goal from different points. Okay, moving to a more interesting field of discussion, we talked some time ago about entities you call devas? Davas, devas?

Russ: devas.

Treebeard: devas and how they perceive time. If you recall, I said that I would dwell upon this matter and I have. Devas are interesting entities in the fact that their time perception is unlike yours or mine. I perceive things as one event happening after another but to a deva all events happen simultaneously. Not only do they inhabit your world and their world but also many different universes all at the same time. I was asked recently about two devas in particularly. One is portrayed on your planet as having antlers of a deer and the other having a feminine form with a quiver and a bow. In the discussion I pointed out that they could be the same entity. But, on further analyzing, my statement was incorrect and erroneous. The natures of the two entities are very different from each other. One is more of a protector and a nurturer whereas the other is more of a doer and a mover. So by looking at just these two you can see two very different devas acting in a way that is perceived in different effects. Now I am aware that there is a presence within your facility, the one that you have your channeling lessons within. Not in your domicile but within the compartment that you host your channeling lessons in. This presence is one with great curiosity. Now I sense that you do not sense the presence. If you relax a moment, close your eyes, let us see if you can sense this stealthfull presence. Young man, do you feel anything?

Russ: ummm.

Treebeard: you are not the young man. Young man.

Skip: no, not really.

Treebeard: youngest man.

Russ: just before you said that I had like a ringing in my ear on my right side.

Treebeard: the presence is......do you have a image? No you don’t do you? The ringing is more of the presence passing by.

Russ: ahh.

Treebeard: when I brought up devas, the presence came into the room.

Russ: oh.

Treebeard: it is a very thinking presence also with a very doing presence. Also within the presence is a feminine presence so it is my assumption that it was a feminine doing, thinking deva, I do not know what name it would go under or one that you would know of.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: on my world a similar deva is called Sunni?

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: and Sunni was the deva of fishing using spears.

Russ: hmm, interesting.

Treebeard: that is before we........that is an incorrect assumption, they are not deities.

Russ: ahhh.

Treebeard: but you think of them as deities?

Russ: well the names that they go by are deities of a earlier age when they were worshiped as such.

Treebeard: (chuckles) so you would worship Tia’s offspring (the Cubs)?

Russ: no.

Treebeard: they go under the same name (Athena).

Russ: correct but we don’t worship……well in some parts we still do…..those entities but as devas they’re not seen as devas, they're seen in those times as gods and goddesses.

Treebeard: I am understanding what you are talking about.

Russ: so they would have a mental image as well as a physical image that they could relate to to the deva when they made their sacrifices of grain or fruit.

Treebeard: hmm, I understand.

Russ: well we also had many different cultures and the cultures would worship the same devas or deities but under different names.

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: for example Diana would be Artemis…….

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: between the Celts the Romans.

Treebeard: Artemis is…..hmmm.

Skip: isn’t Diana the Huntress?

Russ: yeah Diana is the Huntress and Artemis is the Huntress. And then the Norse people of the Scandinavian or Norwegian areas had a similar deity who was also a huntress.

Skip: so did the Greeks.

Russ: that's correct.

Treebeard: hmm.