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                 (Kiri
                              talks about acceptance of going for goals
                              once death has come and the attachments
                              that are released in the process. Death it
                              turns out is much like life, there is
                              still growing taking place.)
 
 
 
 Russ:
                                  well now here’s a question for you.
                                  Were I to die tomorrow….
 
 Kiri: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: I would be working on my desire
                                  to work towards that $500,000 or
                                  whatever my goal happens to be……
 
 Kiri: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: wouldn't that keep me behind as
                                  far as before I can move on to the
                                  next…..
 
 Kiri: not necessarily.
 
 Russ: because I’m attached to it and
                                  I've got that attachment that's
                                  holding me back?
 
 Kiri: not necessarily, not
                                  necessarily.
 
 Skip: no, you may of…..excuse me I’m
                                  sorry, go ahead.
 
 Kiri: oh no no, you go ahead.
 
 Skip: you may have learned what you’re
                                  supposed to learn now…
 
 Kiri: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: so you would go ahead and move
                                  ahead no matter whether you've still
                                  got things to accomplish in your 3-D
                                  mind or not.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Kiri: exactly what I was going to say
                                  but worded differently.
 
 Russ: ahh, so I would see the futility
                                  of that $500,000.
 
 Kiri: not necessarily.
 
 Skip: no you’re still working towards
                                  it.
 
 Kiri: uh-huh but it would just be a
                                  different objective. What would
                                  possibly happen is that all the events
                                  that you set in to action would end up
                                  amassing that amount after your
                                  departure and then your child would
                                  benefit. So therefore you would be
                                  detached from it and remote from it,
                                  it would be irrelevant at that point.
                                  Having learned all that you’re
                                  supposed to learn, it’s your time to
                                  move on, it’s your time.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Kiri: no ifs, ands or buts. So
                                  therefore any plans or anything that
                                  you have that are not relevant to your
                                  moving on are besides the point, they
                                  may or may not bear fruition.
 
 Russ: up until now I’ve achieved most
                                  all my goals.
 
 Kiri: you think so?
 
 Russ: well the ones I set early in my
                                  life that I wanted to achieve by a
                                  certain time period. Now my goals have
                                  all been changing to make room for the
                                  new goals that I need to work on and
                                  those of course are more spiritual
                                  than they are physical.
 
 Kiri: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: they constantly change, even if
                                  you’re not even spiritually aware,
                                  they still constantly change.
 
 Kiri: oh yeah.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Kiri: but that’s part of the growth
                                  patterns, that’s all part of growing,
                                  all part of learning you see. To grow
                                  and advance is all part of the
                                  evolution of the being, constantly
                                  advancing, constantly growing,
                                  constantly struggling, even up to the
                                  last moment. You’ve got to continue
                                  that advancing, you cannot sit down
                                  and vegetate and sort of like, “my
                                  life is done, it’s over, let’s just
                                  sit in the chair and watch
                                  entertainment all day.” That achieves
                                  nothing. Even if you do that at a
                                  younger age, what does it do for you?
                                  You have no goals, no objectives, no
                                  ambitions to do anything, no wanting
                                  to do anything, what’s the point of
                                  that?
 
 Russ: well I read something today that
                                  was about bacteria is the only form of
                                  culture some people have.
 
 (that gets Kiri snickering)
 
 Skip: amoeba.
 
 Kiri: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: yeah and this is true….
 
 Kiri: yeah.
 
 Skip: this is very true. Some people
                                  never, never progress out of that
                                  state.
 
 Kiri: yeah and as much as you try to
                                  coax them and push them and prod them
                                  and give them all the incentives and
                                  everything, that’s all that they ever
                                  will be because they've lacked A, the
                                  learning capability to learn the
                                  lessons and they repeat the same
                                  mistakes over and over again, ask the
                                  same questions over and over again
                                  just different ways, not even
                                  remembering that they’ve asked those
                                  questions or having the cognitive
                                  capability to be able to realize that
                                  they’ve asked those questions. To
                                  realize that they’re asking the same
                                  question in in a different way. How
                                  many times can you ask the same
                                  question in different ways? It’s
                                  endless, endless possibilities like we
                                  were discussing last week, it’s
                                  endless, infinite number of
                                  possibilities to ask one question.
 
 Skip: yeah, it’s the same thing
                                  lifetime after lifetime after
                                  lifetime.
 
 Kiri: uh-huh.
 
 
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