(This is the other interaction of the subject where the conversations is about consciousness of animals and humans using the cats in the room. Tia has been tasked with asking one of the cats in the room if they plan. She gets the full answer from the cat, the cat’s name as it knows itself in cat language and an insistence that only the cat name be used by Tia instead of the human name, little did we know.) 

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(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Russ: hey love.

Tia: hey. Oh yes, expert time.

Russ: okay, does Mongi plan?

(Tia speaks to Mongi in Durondedunn)

Tia: oh, so we're going to talk telepathically are we? Yes, Mongi does.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: Mongi plans very carefully, very, very carefully.

Russ: really?

Tia: part of Mongi's.......(speaks the cat's name in Durondedunn as Hurrah at the cat's request)....okay......part of Hurrah's thought process is, "if I sit patiently and watch and wait and look sweet, they will stop and pick me up and make a fuss of me. If I climb up and look over the shoulder and make not a noise, not a sound, do not jump, do not dig my claws in, they will pick me up and make a fuss of me and I will return the favor by making sub-vocal oscillations."

Russ: well that answers that question. Smart cat.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I would put him right there in the sentient quality then.

Tia: uh-huh, isn’t that what Omal said? That he is sentient?

Russ: borderline.

Tia: uh-huh. I think as Hurrah grows, Hurrah will be more sentient. Now, the most sentient cat in the house, who would you think that is?

Russ: well it would be the heavy-footed lady up there.

Tia: yes.

Russ: the oldest cat in the house.

Tia: why?

Russ: eldest cat in the house, lived the longest, learned the most…….

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and has Mark for an owner.

Tia: and who is the most manipulative cat in the house which is thinking?

Russ: manipulative that is thinking, that have to be little Ganja here.

Tia: no.

Russ: no. Same one as upstairs?

Tia: uh-huh, because she has Mark wrapped around her little claw.

Russ: I’ll take your word for it, she doesn't have me wrapped around her claw that’s for sure.

Tia: well she’s only concerned with one person.

Russ: right.

Tia: so she manipulates that one person and has that one person wrapped around her little claw.

Russ: hmm okay.

Tia: yes I love you too Mongi. Sorry, Hurrah. So you see?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: with, we have four felines in here now?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: we have lots of feline energy. Okay, in the sentient level, number one, number two, Ganja and Hurrah, Calvin number three and self-centered, egotistical, acting on impulse and instinct, number four (Pugsley).

Russ: okay.

Tia: we have a tie for second. Yes all right.

(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)