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                 (Tia describes herself and
                            then describes her home planet. In the
                            telling we get a description of her, that
                            fact that she is descended from felines and
                            how far both Mars and Durondedunn are from
                            Earth. We hear from her the details of how
                            she left her planet and the accident she had
                            doing a D-jump which is astral traveling
                            through dimensions. We find out from her how
                            she can speak to cats and even about some of
                            the animals on her home planet.)
 
 
 Russ: okay darling,
                                        describe yourself a little bit
                                        for Linda.
 
 Tia: oh yes, I'm 5
                                        foot two, I think you would call
                                        me a strawberry blonde but my
                                        hair's
                                        more red than blonde. I have
                                        pointed ears, I have blue eyes
                                        whereas yours work like this,
                                        mine work like cats.
 
 Linda M: oh!
 
 Tia: uh-huh. I have
                                        about three extra vertebrae in
                                        my back which makes me very
                                        flexible, I would say that I am
                                        of athletic build although I’m
                                        getting a little bit flabby
                                        around the tummy at the moment.
                                        I have a little bump at the end
                                        of my spine where I have a
                                        vestige of a tail, I’m descended
                                        from felines.
 
 Linda M: oh.
 
 Tia: so that’s why
                                        I started by going (says
                                        hi in Durondedunn). That means
                                        hello in my language.
 
 Linda M: oh.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Linda M: and how
                                        far away are you?
 
 Tia: my home planet
                                        or where I am right now?
 
 Linda M: your home
                                        planet and where you’re at right
                                        now.
 
 Tia: right now I am
                                        about 84,000,000 miles away.
 
 Linda M: that’s a
                                        lot.
 
 Tia: yeah comes
                                        through pretty clear doesn’t it?
 
 Linda M: yeah.
 
 Tia: uh-huh. My
                                        home planet is about I should
                                        say about 60 light years away?
 
 Linda M: hmm, how
                                        did you get to this planet?
 
 Tia: well I kind of
                                        made a silly little mistake, I
                                        did what Mark does.
 
 Linda M: what’s
                                        that?
 
 Tia: astral travel.
 
 Linda M: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: now to come up
                                        here, Mark does what they called
                                        dimension jumping, which to go
                                        from your dimension which is on
                                        the third dimension, you have to
                                        go through the fourth which is
                                        time and the thing is about time
                                        is that it’s not just one line.
                                        The best analogy is…..is there a
                                        piece of wool or string kicking
                                        around?
 
 Russ: I've got a
                                        piece of dental floss, I don’t
                                        know if that’s going to work.
 
 Tia: no that
                                        doesn’t work, that’s one single
                                        piece of kind of plasticky type
                                        material.
 
 Russ: yeah right,
                                        like what? Oh, you mean that you
                                        can split into different pieces?
 
 Tia: uh-huh. Well
                                        it’s like a piece of string that
                                        you….
 
 Russ: unravel.
 
 Tia: unravel.
 
 Russ: so it’s like
                                        a little pieces of string coming
                                        off of one.
 
 Linda M: oh.
 
 Tia: uh-huh, yeah.
                                        It’s all a whole load of tiny
                                        little pieces of string all
                                        rolled together to make a bigger
                                        piece of string and time is like
                                        that. You see there's not just
                                        one linear timeline, a timeline
                                        is just one aspect of time.
                                        There are many, many different
                                        timelines. For example, here's a
                                        little thought exercise for you.
                                        Okay, think of 10 different
                                        things that you can do sitting
                                        there right now, let’s hear
                                        them.
 
 Russ: steeple my
                                        fingers.
 
 Tia: five each from
                                        both of you.
 
 Russ: okay, your
                                        turn. What can you do just
                                        sitting there?
 
 Linda M: listen?
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: okay, ask
                                        questions.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Linda M: wiggle my
                                        foot.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: shake my
                                        head.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Linda M:
                                        acknowledge how many times I
                                        blink?
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: okay, count
                                        to a 100.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Linda M: imagine
                                        having fun?
 
 Tia: uh-huh, very
                                        fun.
 
 Russ: okay, and
                                        cross my leg.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Linda M: uncross my
                                        leg.
 
 Tia: uh-huh okay,
                                        in time in the fourth dimension,
                                        all of those things happen at
                                        the exact same time but not
                                        altogether. In each different
                                        line they all happen plus the
                                        fact that you could stand up,
                                        you could stand up and walk
                                        across the room, you could stand
                                        up on one leg, you could lick
                                        your finger and stick it in the
                                        air, you could scratch your
                                        nose, scratch your ear, stick
                                        your finger up your nose, stick
                                        your finger in your mouth etc., all
                                        those things happen all at the
                                        exact same time. When you travel
                                        through time, doing a dimension
                                        jump, if you stop and look at
                                        those……
 
 Linda M: is it like
                                        a concussion?
 
 Tia: it’s a little
                                        bit more than that. That’s the
                                        first part of it, if you stop
                                        and look at all of those, think
                                        of all of those things happening
                                        as we just discussed all at the
                                        same time and seeing all of them
                                        at the same time, you would have
                                        sensory overload. Some people go
                                        crazy, some people as you
                                        pointed out have a feeling like
                                        concussion.
 
 Linda M: you mean
                                        where they can't keep their eyes
                                        open?
 
 Tia: they can’t
                                        concentrate, they can’t see
                                        anything, they get totally
                                        confused and they find
                                        themselves back at their start
                                        point or they find themselves
                                        trapped in that time with all
                                        those things happening and all
                                        the things that continue from
                                        that point happening all at the
                                        same time and their body is left
                                        behind and basically it’s left
                                        in a coma apart state and
                                        eventually dies. What happened
                                        to me, I don’t remember too
                                        clearly because when that
                                        happens you kind of go back into
                                        a vegetable type state until you
                                        are brought to your waiting
                                        period and you analyze things
                                        and the mistakes and everything
                                        that you made.
 
 Linda M: oh I went
                                        through that the past five
                                        years.
 
 Tia: oh-huh well
                                        this is a after death type
                                        thing.
 
 Linda M: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: okay but you
                                        can do it whilst you’re alive,
                                        you can analyze all the things
                                        that you’ve done, all the stupid
                                        things and decide where you can
                                        go but when you do a dimension
                                        jump and you make a mistake like
                                        that as I said, you either go
                                        crazy, you get stuck in there,
                                        you get a feeling like blow over
                                        the head or a implosion in the
                                        chest or in the worst-case
                                        scenario you basically die. You
                                        go into shock with what you see,
                                        all the possibilities of
                                        everything that you can ever
                                        think of all happening at the
                                        same time and you die that's it,
                                        end of story. In my case, it was
                                        a very near-death experience.
                                        Basically I was in limbo. My
                                        body, what I did, which is a
                                        pretty neat trick if you can
                                        pull it off is I pulled my body
                                        in with me.
 
 Linda M: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: so basically
                                        all my clothes were left behind
                                        on my native planet and my body
                                        was sucked through with me. I
                                        stopped and looked at time and
                                        went into shock, I don’t
                                        remember very much about that.
                                        Apparently I came through on the
                                        other side but my body had shut
                                        down and my consciousness had
                                        shut down. Basically for all
                                        intense purposes my body was
                                        dead, my heart had stopped
                                        beating, my brain was still
                                        functioning. When your heart
                                        stops, you have four minutes
                                        before the brain starts to lose
                                        oxygen and starts to die.
 
 Linda M: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: that is when
                                        people have near-death
                                        experiences which is very
                                        similar to astral travel. If in
                                        that four minutes your heart is
                                        restarted you can live or, if
                                        you’re put in suspended
                                        animation, time stops for you.
                                        You are parked in that
                                        near-death experience which is a
                                        wonderful experience for a long
                                        time and then if somebody
                                        happens to be kicking around
                                        that happens to have cloning
                                        technology and a higher
                                        technology again and is capable
                                        of transferring your
                                        consciousness from one body to
                                        another body, you come back
                                        where I am right now. But it’s
                                        something that I don’t
                                        recommend.
 
 Russ: she was
                                        rescued.
 
 Tia:
                                          uh-huh.
 
 Linda M: oh.
 
 Tia: I was
                                        rescued….
 
 Russ: Ashtar
                                        Command…well….
 
 Tia: well it wasn’t
                                        quite Ashtar Command.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Tia: but basically
                                        I died. My original body is
                                        basically still intact in a
                                        cryogenic unit which is a deep
                                        freeze and it’s used basically
                                        if I need genetic materials. If
                                        I have a heart problem or I do
                                        something stupid and destroy my
                                        arm, I can have my other arm
                                        stitched on and with certain
                                        medical procedures that I really
                                        don’t understand can be
                                        reattached.
 
 Linda M: oh my
                                        gosh, has that ever happened?
 
 Tia: it happened to
                                        me.
 
 Linda M: oh good.
 
 Tia: uh-huh, I got
                                        a whole new body out of it but
                                        it takes about a year for a body
                                        to be fully cloned.
 
 Linda M: and do you
                                        see scars?
 
 Tia: nope.
 
 Linda: hmm.
 
 Tia: in fact I have
                                        three scars……
 
 Russ: a missing one
                                        that you want back.
 
 Tia: I have three
                                        that I want back.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Linda M: three
                                        bodies?
 
 Tia: no three
                                        scars.
 
 Linda M: oh.
 
 Russ: it's part of
                                        her initiation.
 
 Tia: uh-huh, you
                                        see on my home planet it is a
                                        matriarchal society.
 
 Linda M: doesn’t
                                        that hurt?
 
 Tia: I was young
                                        when I had them.
 
 Linda M: how old
                                        are you?
 
 Tia: I am 29 in
                                        your years.
 
 Linda M: oh my
                                        goodness.
 
 Tia: in my years I
                                        am 33.
 
 Linda M: oh.
 
 Tia: my planet
                                        rotates on a faster axis. We
                                        have 23 hours in our day and we
                                        have 300 days in our year.
 
 Linda
                                          M: hmm.
 
 Russ: hmm, now
                                        people back on Durondedunn
                                        must’ve been a little bit
                                        wondering why all of a sudden
                                        Tia is there and all is left is
                                        your clothes. "Where’d Tia go?"
                                        Bit of a story that gets passed
                                        around through the years
                                        afterwards.
 
 Tia: hey, I got
                                        abducted by aliens.
                                        Happens……..sorry?
 
 Linda M: I was
                                        curious, what language do you
                                        speak on your planet?
 
 Tia: well it’s
                                        called……..in my language it's
                                        (says a Durondedunn word) Don’t
                                        even try to pronounce it, it’s
                                        hard enough to manipulate Mark’s
                                        mouth and tongue to get the
                                        sounds right.
 
 Linda M: oh okay.
 
 Tia: we speak a
                                        language that is similar to…..it
                                        sounds similar to what your cats
                                        when they meow?
 
 Linda M: yeah.
 
 Tia: partly because
                                        our vocal cords are a little
                                        shorter than yours so we're a
                                        much higher octave in our
                                        speaking.
 
 Linda M: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: and I don’t
                                        sound like the voice that Mark
                                        has or his body is using.
 
 Linda M: do you
                                        respect American’s bodies?
 
 Tia: uh-huh, I
                                        respect all life, I respect all
                                        life forms.
 
 Linda M: good.
 
 Tia: on my home
                                        planet, death is part of life.
                                        We have ritual hunts that are a
                                        reminder of our past and also
                                        help to supply certain religious
                                        organizations and sects with
                                        food and it’s done on a purely
                                        religious purpose.
 
 Linda M: you don’t
                                        eat the bodies do you?
 
 Tia: we eat animals
                                        like you do.
 
 Linda M: oh, what
                                        kind of animals do you have?
 
 Tia: I don’t know
                                        the words for some of them, we
                                        have some very similar to your
                                        deer apart from they're a little
                                        bit smaller and they're a lot,
                                        lot faster. We have some very
                                        interesting three-legged animals
                                        which have little short bodies
                                        with very powerful back legs but
                                        just the one front leg.
 
 Linda M: how
                                        interesting.
 
 Tia: uh-huh, we
                                        have animals that have very,
                                        very long limbs that glide
                                        through the air and fly, not
                                        like your bats and not like your
                                        birds. We have ohhh…..hate
                                        them.......we have a little
                                        creature that is probably about
                                        this big and it has four legs
                                        and it's very, very venomous but
                                        it’s good eating as long as you
                                        cut the head off to eat them,
                                        that’s where all
                                        the poison is. It’s kind of like
                                        a spider but it’s not a spider.
                                        We also have.....…oh it’s a
                                        beautiful animal, it’s
                                        ferocious, it’s a herbivore
                                        which means it eats plants only, it
                                        comes in big, big groups and it
                                        has nasty, nasty antlers.
 
 Linda M: what, are
                                        they poisonous?
 
 Tia: no they’re not
                                        poisonous, they just don’t like
                                        being hunted and those are the
                                        ones we hunt for religious
                                        ceremonies. They're kind of
                                        like…..what’s that animal that you
                                        have that has the shaggy black
                                        head and brown body? It’s a
                                        herbivore on your planet Russ?
 
 Russ: you mean
                                        buffaloes?
 
 Tia: yeah,
                                        something like that apart from
                                        the horns…..straight out and
                                        very, very pointed.
 
 Linda M: hmm.
 
 Tia: and those are
                                        the ones that we hunt for
                                        religious purposes because it
                                        takes great skill to bring one
                                        down, it’s very spiritual having
                                        achieved it and the chase is
                                        very spiritual. And we ladies
                                        are the only ones that are
                                        allowed to hunt it, we’re the
                                        only ones that are allowed to
                                        take any life. So it’s something
                                        that’s very, very intertwined is
                                        our religious and spiritual
                                        beliefs. Sorry?
 
 Linda M: I think
                                        that’s good.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: also she has
                                        phenomenal hearing.
 
 Linda M: good.
 
 Tia: uh-huh, worse
                                        than Mark’s.
 
 Russ: well
                                        excellent,
 
 
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