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                 (Tia describes her home
                            planet to a guest so we get a lot due to the
                            questioning that we hadn’t heard before. She
                            relates how they, like us, were abusing
                            their planet but eventually turned it around
                            in ways that sound impossible for this
                            planet because of the economic mindset. She
                            also relates how the males of the planet are
                            genetically placid from birth while the
                            planet itself is matriarchal.)
 
 
 Tia:
                                        I’m on a totally different
                                        religion, on my home planet we
                                        have a matriarchal society.
 
 Linda
                                          M: I
                                        don’t know what that means.
 
 Russ:
                                        when women are in authority,
                                        like a mother society.
 
 Linda
                                          M: so
                                        it’s a very warm, welcoming type
                                        of place to live?
 
 Tia:
                                        yeah, in a way.
 
 Russ:
                                        somewhat, we have a patriarchal
                                        society in the United States and
                                        the world here.
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Linda
                                          M: is
                                        the land very welcoming like a
                                        mother’s arms are open wider?
 
 Tia:
                                        we fixed the problems that we
                                        created. We, my species, we can
                                        be incredibly aggressive. We can
                                        make your race look like a bunch
                                        of wimps.
 
 Linda
                                          M: oh.
 
 Tia:
                                        being a matriarchal society, we
                                        have a history similar to yours
                                        in the fact that we had an
                                        industrial age, we almost
                                        destroyed our planet but we
                                        learned that by taking care of
                                        the planet in an appropriate
                                        way, not just going ahead and
                                        saying, “okay, no more burning
                                        forests, no more industrial
                                        capability”, we learned how to
                                        control our industrial
                                        capability and we learned how to
                                        use those gases as a benefit
                                        instead of just discharging them
                                        into the air and in turn it made
                                        it much more economical and much
                                        more profitable. We learned how
                                        to control the growth of the
                                        planet, we learned how to
                                        control the land, we learned how
                                        to control the seas, we learned
                                        how to control chemicals. We
                                        learned all sorts of things and
                                        we found that there is a space
                                        in between high industrial
                                        capability which pollutes the
                                        atmosphere and living in harmony
                                        with the land. There is a middle
                                        ground. You cannot say no more
                                        forest fires because forest
                                        fires are part of nature’s
                                        cycle.
 
 Linda
                                          M: yeah.
 
 Tia:
                                        you cannot say no more building
                                        of dams because dams are part of
                                        nature’s cycle. After all on
                                        your planet, you have beavers,
                                        do not beavers build dams for
                                        beaver purposes the same as
                                        humans build dams for human
                                        purposes?
 
 Linda
                                          M: yeah.
 
 Tia:
                                        so it’s finding that balance and
                                        we found that balance and it’s
                                        not that difficult but you can’t
                                        say, “okay no more
                                        industrialization, no more
                                        computers, no more CO2, no more
                                        ozone being produced, no more
                                        ozone damaging chemicals being
                                        produced, you have to find that
                                        balance and in doing so you find
                                        that there is a way of
                                        controlling and using and
                                        harmonizing with those chemicals
                                        so that there is a neutral
                                        ground.
 
 Linda
                                          M: it
                                        sounds like a well-prepared meal
                                        type thing.
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh, it’s well-thought-out.
 
 Linda
                                          M: and
                                        you believed in running the land
                                        for your children of the future.
 
 Tia:
                                        no, we run it because it’s
                                        aesthetically pleasing to us
                                        now……
 
 Linda
                                          M: yeah.
 
 Tia:
                                        the fact that it benefits the
                                        children in the future is an
                                        added bonus.
 
 Linda
                                          M: uh-huh.
                                        Do you have famine and worry
                                        about drugs like they do here?
 
 Tia:
                                        yeah, we have our social
                                        problems, we have famines but we
                                        don’t interfere, it’s a natural
                                        part of the cycle. A few hundred
                                        years ago we almost eradicated
                                        our race because of our
                                        tribalistic nature. At the time
                                        it was approximately 50-50 male
                                        to female and when the fighting
                                        happened the males were almost
                                        wiped out. It went from 50-50 to
                                        about 33 or actually 25-75. So
                                        it was a ratio of about four to
                                        one. And that was dangerous so
                                        the women took control, we
                                        finished up the wars, we had our
                                        own wars which were even more
                                        barbaric than the men had and we
                                        decided to work together. We
                                        still feel the effects of those
                                        wars, the ratio at the moment is
                                        about three to one.
 
 Linda
                                          M: so
                                        do women have two husbands?
 
 Tia:
                                        no it’s actually the opposite
                                        way around.
 
 Linda
                                          M: oh
                                        really?
 
 Tia:
                                        the fact that it wasn’t the
                                        women that suffered so badly it
                                        was the men. There are less men
                                        on our planet and by some quirk
                                        of nature we have girl childs
                                        more often than we have male
                                        childs……..
 
 Linda
                                          M: hmmm.
 
 Tia:
                                        and male childs are very placid
                                        nowadays, very, very placid.
 
 Linda
                                          M: very
                                        important.
 
 Tia:
                                        hmm, their placidity is kind of
                                        looked upon as undesirable
                                        sometimes.
 
 Linda
                                          M: why?
 
 Tia:
                                        because of the way that we are,
                                        we're very competitive in
                                        nature. We can be very
                                        aggressive and being placid
                                        means that you get walked upon
                                        and we try to make them tough. I
                                        have three brothers on my home
                                        planet and now unfortunately
                                        four sisters. That’s also
                                        another problem that we suffer
                                        from is that sometimes ailments,
                                        simple ailments at wrong times
                                        will kill us off.
 
 Linda
                                          M: ailments
                                        as in sickness?
 
 Tia:
                                        yeah.
 
 Linda
                                          M: like
                                        a common cold?
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh, it’s only the young that
                                        have that…….
 
 Linda
                                          M: are
                                        you immune to antibiotics?
 
 Tia:
                                        my immune system is different
                                        from yours, I heal much, much,
                                        much more rapidly however if I
                                        get a cold, I’m much, much
                                        sicker.
 
 Linda
                                          M: antibiotics,
                                        they do work though.
 
 Tia:
                                        oh they work but if you over
                                        prescribe them things become
                                        immune to it. Sorry it’s not,
                                        it’s viruses that they’re
                                        designed to attack it's…..I
                                        forget what it is but things
                                        that aren’t viruses that are
                                        prescribed for as well and it
                                        just doesn’t work. And that’s
                                        part of the problem. And the
                                        other part of the problem is
                                        that people on your planet start
                                        to feel better so they stop
                                        taking the medication and of
                                        course they’re not that better.
 
 Linda
                                          M: and
                                        then the….
 
 Tia:
                                        it comes back, the virus comes
                                        back and they start taking the
                                        tablets again and it’s too late
                                        because the virus is……
 
 Linda
                                          M: has
                                        already conquered.
 
 Tia:
                                        well they mutated.
 
 
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