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                 (Leah has an
                        interactive discussion strictly focused around a
                        project involving the construction of a robotic
                        Sirian arm. She starts with just a frame and
                        simple control to an arm able to work in a
                        radioactive environment. The purpose of the
                        discussion is an example of how to build up the
                        mental processes.)
 
 
 Leah:
                                                          hello.
 
 Russ:
                                                          hello Leah.
 
 Leah:
                                                          how's it
                                                          going?
 
 Russ:
                                                          good my dear,
                                                          yourself?
 
 Leah:
                                                          good,
                                                          excellent.
 
 Russ:
                                                          glad to hear
                                                          that dear.
 
 Leah:
                                                          uh-huh. It's
                                                          nice having my
                                                          little sister
                                                          around for
                                                          extra time.
 
 Russ:
                                                          oh yeah, I'm
                                                          happy for you
                                                          two.
 
 Leah:
                                                          uh-huh okay,
                                                          what are we to
                                                          talk about?
 
 Russ:
                                                          well I suppose
                                                          I should
                                                          probably get
                                                          off the
                                                          subject I'm
                                                          working on
                                                          because
                                                          that'll just
                                                          take up too
                                                          much time
                                                          but......
 
 Leah:
                                                          how much time
                                                          do you have on
                                                          your recording
                                                          device?
 
 Russ: oh I've got
                                                  half, a little more
                                                  than half a tape.
 
 Leah: okay so we do
                                                  have.....
 
 Russ: I've got about
                                                  probably looks like 30
                                                  minutes maybe?
 
 Leah: okay.
 
 Russ: theoretically.
 
 Leah: uh-huh,
                                                  theoretically. Okay,
                                                  theoretical mind
                                                  exercises for
                                                  increasing thought
                                                  processes......thought
                                                  actions. Karra got me
                                                  thinking about that.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Leah: being an
                                                  engineer, I have to do
                                                  a lot of skull work
                                                  and how that works for
                                                  me. Okay, skull work
                                                  is where I take a
                                                  problem and I try to
                                                  work it through in my
                                                  mind to see how it
                                                  will go. For example,
                                                  let us say I have to
                                                  construct a replica of
                                                  an arm okay?
 
 Russ: replica of a
                                                  what?
 
 Leah: a replica of an
                                                  arm.
 
 Russ: arm, oh arm.
 
 Leah: a Sirian arm.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Leah: okay? How would
                                                  I do it? How would it
                                                  work? Well, by
                                                  applying pressure here
                                                  and here to make it
                                                  move like this, how do
                                                  I do that? How do you
                                                  make that work? And
                                                  what I do to help in
                                                  the thought process is
                                                  first of all, I go and
                                                  read on the arm, what
                                                  does it look like?
                                                  I'll pull up holos of
                                                  the muscle structure,
                                                  the bone structure and
                                                  I will strip it down
                                                  to its barest essence
                                                  of just the bone and
                                                  then I will add in
                                                  things. Now having
                                                  seen how this works, I
                                                  won't get the hologram
                                                  to manipulate it and
                                                  make it move, I will
                                                  try to figure out how
                                                  it moves, why it moves
                                                  and what muscles do
                                                  what to make it move.
                                                  Now, here's the
                                                  entertaining part.
                                                  Having figured out how
                                                  this part, the upper
                                                  arm and the lower arm
                                                  work together to make
                                                  it to do this to bend,
                                                  okay now for the
                                                  replica that I'm
                                                  making.....the robotic
                                                  replica of a Sirian
                                                  arm, you've got to do
                                                  the fingers. How do
                                                  you do the fingers?
                                                  How do you make them
                                                  move the way that they
                                                  do? Now I've only
                                                  looked at this part,
                                                  this is where it gets
                                                  hard and entertaining,
                                                  if you call it
                                                  entertainment. What I
                                                  do.....did I make his
                                                  body move completely
                                                  there?
 
 Russ: uh-huh, a little
                                                  bit.
 
 Leah: okay, what I do
                                                  is, I would make
                                                  miniature replicas of
                                                  the fingers.......or
                                                  not the fingers, of
                                                  the arm as fingers and
                                                  connect them all
                                                  together. Yes this is
                                                  something I have done.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Leah: I made a robotic
                                                  arm years ago.
 
 Russ: now how's this
                                                  have to do with the
                                                  mental processes?
 
 Leah: well because the
                                                  first part is visual,
                                                  this part, is done in
                                                  here. I have to work
                                                  out how to make these
                                                  puppies work. Now
                                                  constructing it is
                                                  part of the mental
                                                  process because you
                                                  have to know where
                                                  things are going to
                                                  go. You have to have a
                                                  pre-planned idea
                                                  whether it is written
                                                  down or held in your
                                                  mind or stored as
                                                  images is all
                                                  controlled from here.
                                                  You have to make the
                                                  decisions and in
                                                  building it, you have
                                                  to.......you have to
                                                  what? You have
                                                  to....look at the
                                                  images or decide where
                                                  things go so that is
                                                  done mentally which
                                                  takes reasoning. If
                                                  you were to let's say
                                                  connect this muscle to
                                                  here, it's not going
                                                  to do this is it?
 
 Russ: uh-uh.
 
 Leah: because this
                                                  muscle here has to
                                                  tighten as this muscle
                                                  loosens. I'm having
                                                  difficulty with your
                                                  language tonight, you
                                                  might've noticed that.
 
 Russ: no problem.
 
 Leah: where do you
                                                  attach the muscle to
                                                  make it do that? Well
                                                  if you attach it here
                                                  and here, you can make
                                                  it as tense as you
                                                  want and with the one
                                                  here and here, you can
                                                  make it as loose you
                                                  want. It's not going
                                                  to do anything so what
                                                  do you do? You have to
                                                  attach it in the
                                                  correct places which
                                                  is done by making the
                                                  correct decisions in
                                                  your mind by doing the
                                                  correct research and
                                                  trying to figure
                                                  things out.
 
 Russ: and to see it
                                                  all in your mind as
                                                  one piece with all the
                                                  interconnecting parts
                                                  once you have it all
                                                  figured out.........
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: before it ever
                                                  takes any physical
                                                  form.
 
 Leah: correct, that is
                                                  part of increasing the
                                                  thought processes is
                                                  practicing to be able
                                                  to see it in your
                                                  mind. That to be able
                                                  to hold it in your
                                                  mind, look at it, spin
                                                  it, rotate it, turn it
                                                  and think through each
                                                  process.
 
 Russ: now apply that
                                                  to life and what do
                                                  you get?
 
 Leah: that's the next
                                                  stage.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Leah: let us get back
                                                  to the robotic arm.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Leah: what uses would
                                                  a robotic arm do?
 
 Russ: well it would
                                                  work in a hazardous
                                                  environment for uses
                                                  where you could not
                                                  use a regular arm.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: for example in
                                                  micro engineering or
                                                  just regular nuclear
                                                  or biological work
                                                  where a regular arm
                                                  might be destroyed
                                                  using it........
 
 Leah: correct.
 
 Russ: but you need the
                                                  tactile senses or the
                                                  ability to use the
                                                  digital qualities of
                                                  an arm to manipulate
                                                  the pieces that you're
                                                  working with.
 
 Leah: uh-huh, correct.
                                                  Now having constructed
                                                  your artificial arm,
                                                  your robotic arm, you
                                                  have to think of what
                                                  uses as you've just
                                                  pointed out. Now, the
                                                  next stage from that
                                                  because you have
                                                  think, okay what's the
                                                  next stage from the
                                                  uses?
 
 Russ: are we using
                                                  tactile senses though
                                                  with those arms or
                                                  it's just a dead arm?
 
 Leah: well it's a
                                                  nonsensical arm at
                                                  this point let us say.
                                                  It's a dead arm, it
                                                  has no senses.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Leah: the next stage
                                                  is, okay how do we
                                                  improve it and make it
                                                  do what it's supposed
                                                  to do?
 
 Russ: add tactile
                                                  senses.
 
 Leah: correct. Now,
                                                  having been able to
                                                  get the tactile
                                                  senses, how do we
                                                  improve that?
 
 Russ: you attach it to
                                                  your brain.
 
 Leah: correct.
 
 Russ: so that you have
                                                  the input that you
                                                  need to make the
                                                  correct decisions
                                                  based on the tactile
                                                  senses that you
                                                  receive from those
                                                  particular nerves or
                                                  receptors.
 
 Leah: uh-huh but let
                                                  us say that that you
                                                  are dealing with
                                                  radioactive material.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Leah: you can't go in
                                                  there with your
                                                  robotic arm and just
                                                  pick it up and move
                                                  around because the
                                                  radiation is going to
                                                  make your body decay
                                                  correct? It's going to
                                                  become radioactive.
 
 Russ: it doesn't
                                                  matter, it's a robotic
                                                  arm.
 
 Leah: yes but you're
                                                  saying that it's
                                                  attached to you.
 
 Russ: from a set of
                                                  leads that you're in a
                                                  safe room.
 
 Leah: okay, now we're
                                                  getting somewhere. How
                                                  is it attached?
 
 Russ: well it's
                                                  attached in the way
                                                  that your helmets are
                                                  able to input any
                                                  thought.......through
                                                  a helmet system where
                                                  it's attached to your
                                                  brain.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: having the leads
                                                  going into your
                                                  helmet.
 
 Leah: okay, and it's
                                                  attached to your
                                                  brain.
 
 Russ: just like the
                                                  pilots fly the ships.
 
 (the base pilots)
 
 Leah: how's it
                                                  attached to your
                                                  brain?
 
 Russ: how is it
                                                  attached to your
                                                  brain? It's attached
                                                  to your brain through
                                                  the helmet. The leads
                                                  go into your helmet so
                                                  you are able to use
                                                  the arm and feel the
                                                  senses as if it was
                                                  your real arm.
 
 Leah: okay, how?
 
 Russ: well now see the
                                                  helmets we're getting
                                                  into a whole
                                                  technological area
                                                  that Kiri hasn't quite
                                                  made common knowledge
                                                  to me just as yet.
 
 Leah: and for a very
                                                  good reason.
 
 Russ: well yeah
                                                  correct, I mean I
                                                  could make a number of
                                                  hazardous guesses on
                                                  how it works.
 
 Leah: okay, let's hear
                                                  your hazardous
                                                  guesses.
 
 Russ: well, the
                                                  hazardous guesses I
                                                  have is that the
                                                  probes that are
                                                  inserted into the
                                                  brain once you have
                                                  the helmet on attach
                                                  themselves to various
                                                  parts of your brain
                                                  that have to do with
                                                  motor control, sensory
                                                  functions, endorphin
                                                  and so on releasing of
                                                  various chemicals in
                                                  your body and so
                                                  therefore one of the
                                                  leads or many of the
                                                  leads coming in from
                                                  the arm would have to
                                                  attach to the probe
                                                  that directly receives
                                                  sensory input.
 
 Leah: so you're saying
                                                  that you think that
                                                  the......how it
                                                  actually penetrates
                                                  into the skull,
                                                  through the skull into
                                                  the brain.
 
 Russ: correct.
 
 Leah: hmmmm.
 
 Russ: and you'd have
                                                  to have some leads
                                                  that went from sensory
                                                  input to the brain and
                                                  others that went to
                                                  motor control in the
                                                  brain so that you
                                                  could control the
                                                  actual arm movement
                                                  going on.
 
 Leah: I'll have to
                                                  talk to Kiri about
                                                  this but I don't think
                                                  they work that way.
 
 Russ: yeah like I say,
                                                  Kiri's not been real
                                                  open-minded about
                                                  sharing all this
                                                  information with me.
 
 Leah: probably for a
                                                  reason.
 
 Russ: well of course,
                                                  Omal would fire her
                                                  little tush.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
                                                  So.......
 
 Russ: so under pain of
                                                  having Kiri's tush
                                                  fried, I have to make
                                                  these radical,
                                                  hazardous guesses.
 
 Leah: hmmm.
 
 Russ: but I know that
                                                  I'm fairly well right
                                                  because I've been to
                                                  points where they've
                                                  had helmets taken off
                                                  and unfortunately they
                                                  left rather nasty
                                                  little pinpricks
                                                  afterwards.
 
 (from my flight
                                                  training with Karra's
                                                  son Nazreal in his
                                                  search and rescue
                                                  craft)
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: where they were
                                                  taken off suddenly
                                                  let's say.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: so I'm assuming
                                                  they do pierce the
                                                  skin.
 
 Leah: I think it's
                                                  safe to say that they
                                                  do pierce the skin, as
                                                  for the skull, I don't
                                                  think so.
 
 Russ: maybe not the
                                                  skull.
 
 Leah: uh-huh, I don't
                                                  think so.
 
 Russ: but how they get
                                                  through the sensory
                                                  inputs through the
                                                  skull to the brain
                                                  itself without
                                                  actually going through
                                                  the skull, I have to
                                                  assume is possibly
                                                  nonmetals.
 
 Leah: I've got Tia
                                                  looking at me very
                                                  concerned.
 
 Russ: I can imagine
                                                  we're deep into gray
                                                  areas now.
 
 Leah: uh-huh and I
                                                  think.....
 
 Russ: you start making
                                                  hazardous guesses then
                                                  we're both in trouble.
 
 Leah: it would be best
                                                  if.......I'm reading
                                                  here.......if
                                                  I.......if I..........
 
 (I start laughing)
 
 Russ: dropped the
                                                  bloody subject.
 
 Leah: if I.......oh,
                                                  let it go, okay.
 
 Russ: same "ting".
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: nice try.
 
 Leah: Tia was
                                                  going......okay, she
                                                  says if you want, she
                                                  can go and get Kiri
                                                  to....
 
 Russ: no, I've already
                                                  worn a helmet, I
                                                  already know what they
                                                  do.
 
 Leah: uh-huh. Okay,
                                                  but you see that by
                                                  what we've just done.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Leah: we've done the
                                                  mind exercise.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Leah: now the thing
                                                  is, how to construct
                                                  the helmet.
 
 Russ: oh Tia's going
                                                  drop, drop, drop,
                                                  drop.
 
 Leah: no, no, no, no,
                                                  I'm taking it as a
                                                  mental exercise.
 
 Russ: okay, how do we
                                                  construct the helmet?
 
 Leah: yes, this
                                                  is......and I'm not
                                                  going to......I'm
                                                  going to tell you how
                                                  to go through the
                                                  thought processes.
                                                  Okay, first of all you
                                                  visualize the outer
                                                  shell.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Leah: okay, you
                                                  visualize and think
                                                  about what you want it
                                                  to do. Okay you want
                                                  it to control an
                                                  object.
 
 Russ: I want to
                                                  receive images and
                                                  sensory input and
                                                  control the object.
 
 Leah: correct. Okay, I
                                                  was going to get to
                                                  that before you so
                                                  politely interrupted.
 
 Russ: my mistake.
 
 Leah: okay, you have
                                                  it doing what you have
                                                  said. Okay, how do you
                                                  get it to do that
                                                  without causing
                                                  irreversible harm?
 
 Russ: well it has to
                                                  act as a....
 
 Leah: no, no don't
                                                  interrupt, I'm being
                                                  deliberate.
 
 Russ: oh I'm sorry,
                                                  sorry.
 
 Leah: okay, how do you
                                                  get it to do that
                                                  without causing harm?
                                                  How do you achieve
                                                  that goal? And
                                                  finally, which sucker
                                                  do you get to be the
                                                  test pilot? All very
                                                  important processes in
                                                  the thought process.
                                                  Even before you build
                                                  it, you have to know
                                                  how you're going to
                                                  build it, how it's
                                                  going to work, what
                                                  it's going to do.
                                                  Because it's no good
                                                  building something
                                                  with no idea on what
                                                  it's going to do, no
                                                  idea on how it works.
                                                  What's the point of
                                                  doing it if you don't
                                                  know that? You see?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Leah: so how do you do
                                                  these things? So you
                                                  have to, when you're
                                                  doing a thought
                                                  exercise is, you see
                                                  the end product and
                                                  how it's going to look
                                                  without seeing the
                                                  internal mechanisms,
                                                  you think about how
                                                  you're going to build
                                                  the mechanism. What
                                                  materials are you
                                                  going to need? How are
                                                  you going to construct
                                                  it? What's its
                                                  function? How are you
                                                  going to achieve that
                                                  function in the safest
                                                  possible way and who
                                                  are you going to get
                                                  to test it? Because
                                                  it's useful to have
                                                  the test pilot from
                                                  the get-go. Because if
                                                  you're going to build
                                                  it, you want to custom
                                                  make it so it fits
                                                  snugly for them to
                                                  start off with. Then
                                                  you can mass-produce
                                                  it from there.
 
 Russ: in essence,
                                                  let's take this cycle
                                                  over here in front of
                                                  me.
 
 (an elliptical cross
                                                  trainer in the room)
 
 Leah: okay.
 
 Russ: all right, I'm
                                                  sure you see it on the
                                                  monitor okay?
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: all right,
                                                  someone had to know
                                                  what exactly they
                                                  wanted to do with
                                                  this.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: they had it in
                                                  their mind, probably
                                                  without the shell,
                                                  they just had the
                                                  basic function of what
                                                  each item was going to
                                                  do.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and they had the
                                                  end product figured
                                                  out what it was going
                                                  to do.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: from there, they
                                                  had to construct each
                                                  internal mechanism
                                                  that would make it do
                                                  the end product.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: once they had
                                                  that down, then they
                                                  had to figure out the
                                                  external parts that
                                                  would make the
                                                  internal parts that
                                                  would come up to the
                                                  final function that
                                                  they were talking
                                                  about.
 
 Leah: well from what I
                                                  see on it is, it's
                                                  basically a lever like
                                                  this way, with a lever
                                                  across, swinging bars
                                                  and a bar on the
                                                  bottom.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Leah: okay, pivots,
                                                  ratchets and so on,
                                                  very primitive, very
                                                  simple. The bars from
                                                  the top with the loop
                                                  arm and down and
                                                  across are all
                                                  cosmetic. You can do
                                                  away with them, it's
                                                  cosmetics.
 
 Russ: sure.
 
 Leah: but cosmetics
                                                  are pleasing to the
                                                  eye.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Leah: so you have to
                                                  factor in how to use
                                                  the cosmetics for a
                                                  function. You have to
                                                  stand on them and use
                                                  them as levers.
 
 Russ: well as with
                                                  your robotic arm,
                                                  first off you have to
                                                  see the end product.
                                                  Before you can do
                                                  that, the end product
                                                  is all cosmetics.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: you've got to
                                                  start with a
                                                  framework.
 
 Leah: correct. When I
                                                  say the end products I
                                                  don't include
                                                  cosmetics.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Leah: I see the end
                                                  product as....
 
 Russ: well I see it
                                                  with the cosmetics, I
                                                  see with the flesh and
                                                  flesh color and
                                                  fingernails.
 
 Leah: that's
                                                  unimportant, that's
                                                  cosmetics.
 
 Russ: I know, that's
                                                  the end product though
                                                  I see.
 
 Leah: yeah that's not
                                                  my end product. My end
                                                  product is creating
                                                  the arm and make it
                                                  functioning, make it
                                                  work as I want it to
                                                  work. What you do with
                                                  it after that is up to
                                                  you. If you throw
                                                  flesh, slap some paint
                                                  on it, put
                                                  finger...fingernails
                                                  on there, fine but
                                                  I've done my job which
                                                  is creating a
                                                  mechanism that works.
                                                  However, if the
                                                  cosmetics interfere
                                                  and make it so it
                                                  doesn't work, then I
                                                  get involved again.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Leah: okay, anything
                                                  else?
 
 Russ: that's it.
 
 Leah: okay.
 
 
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