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                 (Omal alters the
                        way to view war and chaos as being part of the
                        lessons gained for growth from them. He uses
                        Yugoslavia as an example of an area dealing with
                        struggle and warfare for hundreds of years and
                        the growth that should have come from that
                        didn’t for that exact reason.)
 
 
 Omal:
                                                  okay, without getting
                                                  dry and boring, let us
                                                  throw open the floor
                                                  to discussion and
                                                  questions and answers.
 
 Russ: well Tia was
                                                  talking about the
                                                  Yugoslavia…..
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and one of the
                                                  things we’ve talked
                                                  about before is the
                                                  practice for the
                                                  dimensional shift
                                                  that’s coming……
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and how there
                                                  will be financial
                                                  problems here and
                                                  there that will help
                                                  out our growth in
                                                  getting to a higher
                                                  consciousness through
                                                  the adversarial
                                                  effects of that.
 
 Omal: uh-huh, you have
                                                  learn’t a new word
                                                  have you not?
 
 Russ: one or two
                                                  (chuckles). Is what
                                                  they’re going through
                                                  in Bosnia and Kosovo
                                                  sort of practice for
                                                  them, kind of their
                                                  whole mindset is
                                                  changing toward that?
 
 Omal: unfortunately
                                                  their mindset is not
                                                  changing, it is a
                                                  situation as was
                                                  stated that is
                                                  thousands, well
                                                  hundreds of years old.
                                                  It is a situation that
                                                  has been going on so
                                                  long that people have
                                                  forgotten initially
                                                  what started the
                                                  problems. It was not
                                                  initially an ethic
                                                  thing, more of a
                                                  tribalistic, religious
                                                  problem. It has now
                                                  got to the point where
                                                  nobody really
                                                  remembers what the
                                                  initial problems were
                                                  but it is now to the
                                                  point where it is a
                                                  very ethnic, “my race
                                                  is better than your
                                                  race, your race is
                                                  lower than mine, we
                                                  will treat you
                                                  accordingly.”
 
 Russ:  hmm.
 
 Omal: so for them it
                                                  is not something new,
                                                  it is something that
                                                  has been going on and
                                                  whilst it was under
                                                  communist rule, it was
                                                  downplayed during the
                                                  early '40s and late
                                                  '30s. It was again
                                                  downplayed because of
                                                  communications weren’t
                                                  there as much and then
                                                  we can see as Tia
                                                  pointed out and you
                                                  stated that in 1914
                                                  the First World War
                                                  started there but
                                                  there had been
                                                  problems continually
                                                  there for quite a few
                                                  hundred years. If you
                                                  look at the area, it
                                                  is a very harsh and
                                                  rugged area and if you
                                                  go back to a very
                                                  famous individual that
                                                  is now a character of
                                                  myth and legend,
                                                  Vladimir Dracule, you
                                                  will see if you follow
                                                  his history that he
                                                  was actually fighting
                                                  the Muslims and the
                                                  Turks.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Omal: so it is
                                                  something that it is
                                                  in that area at least
                                                  five, 600 years old.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Omal: the unfortunate
                                                  thing with Dracule is
                                                  that he is painted now
                                                  as a devil worshiper
                                                  because of his
                                                  practice of impaling
                                                  people. In fact he was
                                                  a very pious and
                                                  religious Christian
                                                  individual.
 
 Russ: well that’s too
                                                  bad, you'd think they
                                                  would have some good
                                                  practice now with all
                                                  the things that are
                                                  going on there.
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Laura: apparently no
                                                  one's learned a lesson
                                                  or else we wouldn't
                                                  still have wars.
 
 Omal: that is
                                                  unfortunate but
                                                  struggle does serve a
                                                  very useful purpose.
                                                  It serves the purpose
                                                  of speeding up
                                                  learning processes.
                                                  Certainly war is a
                                                  very bad thing however
                                                  from war some major
                                                  technological advances
                                                  have occurred. For
                                                  example, computers,
                                                  the microchip,
                                                  microprocessors,
                                                  capacitors,
                                                  transistors, medical
                                                  developments, jet
                                                  engines, rocket
                                                  engines, these have
                                                  all come from an
                                                  accelerated process
                                                  that started in 1938
                                                  with the various
                                                  rocketry
                                                  organizations, the
                                                  Goddard’s and the von
                                                  Braun’s and all the
                                                  other individuals that
                                                  pioneered rocketry.
                                                  With the development
                                                  of rocketry comes a
                                                  whole myriad of
                                                  possible advancements
                                                  that are now necessary
                                                  to accompany the
                                                  advancement into
                                                  space. So to say that
                                                  warfare is bad is
                                                  correct but you also
                                                  have to look on the
                                                  positive side of the
                                                  technological
                                                  advancements that come
                                                  from that.
 
 Russ: thank you.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: as has been
                                                  stated in the past and
                                                  I believe is a popular
                                                  catchphrase, good and
                                                  evil, you can’t have
                                                  one without the other.
 
 Skip: yeah.
 
 Laura: when you’re
                                                  speaking of evil is
                                                  really just a
                                                  transition.
 
 Omal: correct, it is a
                                                  point of view.
 
 
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