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                 (Tia answers
                      questions raised by fears of a pole shift
                      happening in the future to dispute some of the
                      reports and questions the data on the others. She
                      has an abundance of her own data that she quotes
                      to help us understand better what to expect.)
 
 
 Tia:
                                        okay
                                        next question, Skip?
 
 Skip:
                                        no uh-uh, I’m listening tonight
                                        though.
 
 Tia:
                                        okay.
 
 Russ:
                                        all right, there was an email
                                        sent to me on translation
                                        periods in dimensional
                                        shifts?
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        and I thought I’d go over some
                                        of this with you and Omal and
                                        Kiri…..
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        because a lot of it deals with
                                        the future. It’s another one of
                                        those fourth dimensional shift
                                        change things?
 
 Tia:
                                        oh dear.
 
 Russ:
                                        yeah I know. So apparently
                                        according to it and if you
                                        actually put this to sixth
                                        dimension it makes more sense…..
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        but they would say that prior to
                                        the poles of the earth moving to
                                        new locations…..
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        which is where the human
                                        consciousness usually moves into
                                        the fourth dimension, they’re
                                        will be a period of time where
                                        there will be worldwide chaos. A
                                        period where most people go
                                        insane, all social systems,
                                        financial systems, political
                                        systems etc. collapse and the
                                        planet is plunged into total
                                        chaos.
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        now that's sort of similar to
                                        what we're already working with
                                        in the meantime….
 
 Tia:
                                        but not that drastic.
 
 Russ:
                                        correct.
 
 Tia:
                                        most from what I’ve researched,
                                        most of these dimensional shift
                                        people talk about a time of mass
                                        destruction, total chaos, great
                                        harm, major disasters, etc.,
                                        etc., etc.. They paint a picture
                                        of doom and gloom. They say
                                        everything is going to be bad
                                        until the change. I find this
                                        hard to understand because they
                                        are not achieving anything,
                                        they’re adding to the problem.
                                        Anyway continue.
 
 Russ:
                                        what are the chances……I mean
                                        we’ve talked about this before
                                        but just so I can put it on tape
                                        when I put this out, what are
                                        the odds of the poles shifting
                                        from where they're at now to a
                                        complete reversal?
 
 Tia:
                                        oh it does happen, it does
                                        happen.
 
 Russ:
                                        it actually does says here it
                                        does happen, it just happened
                                        recently in fact.
 
 Tia:
                                        what do they define as recently?
 
 Russ:
                                        let’s see, they say that
                                        basically the geomagnetic field
                                        is undergoing huge changes and
                                        that it’s growing weaker. 2,000
                                        years ago the field measured
                                        four Gauss, about 500 years
                                        ago…..now it’s at .04 Gauss.
 
 Tia:
                                        where do they come up with these
                                        figures, 2,000 years ago?
 
 Russ:
                                        I don’t know how they figured
                                        out it was that much 2,000 years
                                        ago but they say that the field
                                        is changing and now they’re
                                        saying that in June, July,
                                        August, September, October and
                                        part of November of 1996, there
                                        was a bigger and longer anomaly.
                                        During that time the South Pole
                                        actually moved around and if you
                                        had a compass you could see it
                                        moving on a daily basis varying
                                        from 2 ½ degrees to as much is
                                        17 degrees in a single day.
 
 Tia:
                                        do you know what would happen if
                                        there was that kind of degree
                                        shift?
 
 Russ:
                                        uh-uh.
 
 Tia:
                                        you’re talking about earthquakes
                                        that are on the nine plus scale.
 
 Russ:
                                        oh, the 17 degrees in a single
                                        day?
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh. Major earthquakes and I
                                        mean major.
 
 Russ:
                                        wouldn’t that increase the
                                        wobble?
 
 Tia:
                                        correct. You see the problem
                                        with your popular modern science
                                        is that they don’t have the
                                        records, they don’t have the
                                        records. It’s.......you’re going
                                        to hate me......Al Gore, "this
                                        July was the hottest July on
                                        records in the United States."
                                        Records only go back 150 years.
                                        However, what they're comparing
                                        to is the coldest century, the
                                        1800s to the turn-of-the-century
                                        was that coldest winter on
                                        Chinese records that go back 600
                                        years. In our records it was the
                                        1800s to 1900s was the coldest
                                        hundred years in close to a
                                        1,000 years.
 
 Russ:
                                        hmm.
 
 Tia:
                                        the…..thank you…..the 1200s was
                                        warmer by 3 degrees on average
                                        then the current hundred years
                                        at the moment, from 19……well
                                        1898 to 1998 by 3 degrees.
 
 Russ:
                                        hmm.
 
 Tia:
                                        the 700 years before that was
                                        warmer on average by 2 degrees
                                        so it’s no big deal. Al Gore is
                                        going around sounding alarms
                                        about something that is wrong,
                                        they do not have the records and
                                        where the records are on your
                                        planet are in ice cores and if
                                        they did ice samples in glaciers
                                        and on the South Pole they would
                                        find that this century is a
                                        normal century.
 
 Russ:
                                        hmm.
 
 Tia:
                                        if they did the research and
                                        looked around in places
                                        that……records that go back over
                                        a 1,000 years, China, Japan,
                                        India, Europe, Rome, Greece,
                                        Great Britain. Okay let me read
                                        something that I have prepared
                                        because I was expecting you to
                                        ask this question. "In 1122 in
                                        the year of our Lord, the wine
                                        produced was of"……and instead of
                                        going thee and thou and thus and
                                        so on, I’m skipping over
                                        it………."produced a bountiful
                                        harvest." Guess where the record
                                        comes from?
 
 Russ:
                                        Italy?
 
 Tia:
                                        no.
 
 Russ:
                                        where?
 
 Tia:
                                        a little monastery just outside
                                        the town in Great Britain of
                                        York.
 
 Russ:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Tia:
                                        they’ve not been able to produce
                                        wine there in 500 years.
 
 Russ:
                                        hmm.
 
 Tia:
                                        they’ve just started to grow
                                        vines and produce wine there
                                        again.
 
 Russ:
                                        so it wasn’t a moneymaker for
                                        them?
 
 Tia:
                                        they couldn’t grow it, it was
                                        too wet, too damp, and too cold.
                                        So what does that tell you?
 
 Russ:
                                        quite warm summers.
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh which means that the warm
                                        summers were the norm. There are
                                        pictures that go back to the
                                        1300s and 1200s that are looked
                                        upon as, 'oh, nice little winter
                                        scenes." Do you know why the
                                        artist painted those pictures?
 
 Russ:
                                        hmm?
 
 Tia:
                                        because it was new.
 
 Russ:
                                        hmm.
 
 Tia:
                                        that’s the only reason artists
                                        paint things in nature is
                                        because it’s new, something that
                                        is unheard of.
 
 Russ:
                                        hmm.
 
 Tia:
                                        in about 1200 to 1600 they had a
                                        mini Ice Age, that’s not all
                                        that long ago.
 
 Russ:
                                        well as I recall it was…..wasn’t
                                        there a major Ice Age up until
                                        throughout the period just
                                        before Atlantis went down?
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh, uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        and that those places that are
                                        fairly habitable now back then
                                        weren’t?
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh. Yeah and it’s all part
                                        of a natural cycle.
 
 Russ:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Tia:
                                        I hate to go on my tirades about
                                        and I get more and more informed
                                        as I have a tirade because I go
                                        off and research and I will come
                                        up with answers to my questions.
 
 Russ:
                                        hmm.
 
 Tia:
                                        remember my last tirade was
                                        about global warming?
 
 Russ:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Tia:
                                        well I went off and researched
                                        and I'm looking at all these
                                        records and stuff that we have
                                        and going, “wait a second.”
                                        However, it is unmistakable that
                                        the human species is having an
                                        effect and a negative effect but
                                        it’s not irreversible as
                                        politicians are claiming.
 
 Russ:
                                        very good, I’ve got a couple
                                        more for you then.
 
 Tia:
                                        okay.
 
 Russ:
                                        this one you’re going to love a
                                        lot, "that at one point
                                        according to a guy named Gregg
                                        Braden, this is just in June of
                                        '96, the South Pole of the
                                        planet actually moved off the
                                        coast of California for a few
                                        hours."
 
 Tia:
                                        what?
 
 Russ:
                                        yeah, I thought you’d like that
                                        one.
 
 (Skip
                                        snickers)
 
 Tia:
                                        can you read that again?
 
 Russ:
                                        it says, "at one point according
                                        to Gregg Braden, the South Pole
                                        of the planet actually moved off
                                        the coast of California for a
                                        few hours. This info can be
                                        easily checked, just look at any
                                        aeronautical map of the world
                                        for any major airport prior to
                                        June of 1986 and then get a new
                                        one. They had to make new maps
                                        in order to land their planes
                                        and compare them. You’ll see
                                        that the error correction for
                                        magnetic North Pole has changed
                                        which means at the South Pole
                                        has moved. Chicago O’Hare
                                        international changed by two and
                                        one half……"
 
 Tia:
                                        go back, did you say magnetic?
 
 Russ:
                                        yeah.
 
 Tia:
                                        that’s normal.
 
 Russ:
                                        magnetic North Pole.
 
 Tia:
                                        the magnetic North Pole changes.
 
 Russ:
                                        but this says the South Pole
                                        moved off the coast of
                                        California which would put the
                                        North Pole somewhere in the
                                        Russia wouldn’t it?
 
 Tia:
                                        thereabouts.
 
 Russ:
                                        yeah. Probably like Siberia if
                                        I’m not mistaken.
 
 Tia:
                                        no China.
 
 Russ:
                                        China.
 
 Tia:
                                        well Mongolia.
 
 Russ:
                                        right.
 
 Tia:
                                        no, that kind of shift you would
                                        have massive earthquakes of
                                        approximately……..it would rip
                                        your planet pieces.
 
 Russ:
                                        seems like it would be, even for
                                        a few hours…..
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        it would certainly wake people
                                        up in the morning.
 
 Tia:
                                        no it wouldn’t wake people up in
                                        the morning.
 
 Skip:
                                        shift all the plates wouldn’t it
                                        darling?
 
 Tia:
                                        oh yes and then some……
 
 Skip:
                                        and shift all the plates.
 
 Tia:
                                        and then some. As I said, it
                                        would rip your planet to pieces.
 
 Skip:
                                        oh yeah.
 
 Russ:
                                        hmm. Okay, want another one?
 
 Tia:
                                        yeah, I’m in for good laughs.
 
 Russ:
                                        all right, yeah I love them too.
                                        This is about Mexico and the
                                        fires down in Mexico.
 
 Tia:
                                        oh let me guess, they were
                                        generated by the chupacabra?
 
 Russ:
                                        nope.
 
 Tia:
                                        oh, party pooper.
 
 Russ:
                                        no this is all about
                                        the…..actually let me find it
                                        here.
 
 Tia:
                                        let me guess, it’s all about the
                                        Aztec warriors coming out of the
                                        forest and being totally
                                        confused?
 
 Russ:
                                        nope sorry.
 
 Tia:
                                        Toltecs?
 
 Russ:
                                        nope.
 
 Tia:
                                        Anasazis?.
 
 Russ:
                                        here we go, "we’re told that the
                                        states of fires are being caused
                                        by farmers burning their crops
                                        to make room for more crops."
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        okay, "actual eyewitnesses in
                                        Mexico that I have talked with
                                        have a different story. They say Mount
                                        Popocatépetl, about 40 miles
                                        southeast of Mexico City, has
                                        been erupting for over a year
                                        now and the ground in the
                                        surrounding areas is becoming
                                        very hot. Eyewitnesses say the
                                        trees are spontaneously breaking
                                        into flames which would mean
                                        that the ground would have to be
                                        over 459°F. One report said they
                                        even saw animals spontaneously
                                        burst into flames, one
                                        eyewitness I spoke with said
                                        that even a long ways, the
                                        ground was so hot that rubber
                                        soles of shoes will melt while
                                        walking in the forest."
 
 Tia:
                                        and these people walking in the
                                        forest are not spontaneously
                                        combusting?
 
 Russ:
                                        apparently they're wearing
                                        rubber shoes.
 
 Tia:
                                        which is protecting them huh?
 
 Russ:
                                        protecting them yes.
 
 Tia:
                                        okay…..
 
 Russ:
                                        which makes them walk on the
                                        ground instead of bare feet I
                                        suppose.
 
 Tia:
                                        now it is true that that
                                        mountain is erupting…..
 
 Russ:
                                        ahh.
 
 Tia:
                                        and it is true that it is a
                                        volcano and it is true that the
                                        ground in that area is warmer
                                        but 400 degrees?
 
 (Skip
                                        starts laughing again)
 
 Russ:
                                        well, I just read them as I get
                                        them.
 
 Skip:
                                        400 degrees, everything would
                                        catch on fire.
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        yeah, they are assuming that.
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        in other words, the people are
                                        spreading sort of like fear all
                                        over the place.
 
 Tia:
                                        yeah.
 
 Skip:
                                        because at 400°, even your grass
                                        would burn and your trees and
                                        your bushes.
 
 Tia:
                                        instead of spontaneously
                                        combusting, the whole area would
                                        be aflame.
 
 Skip:
                                        that’s right.
 
 Tia:
                                        for example, who’s got a
                                        lighter?
 
 Linda
                                          M: I
                                        do.
 
 Tia:
                                        okay, hold a piece of paper that
                                        far above it and then light it
                                        but don’t even bother because we
                                        know what’s going to happen.
 
 Linda
                                          M: it’s
                                        going to turn brown and then…….
 
 Tia:
                                        it will catch fire.
 
 Skip:
                                        it will catch fire.
 
 Tia:
                                        and that is exactly what would
                                        happen in the jungles.
 
 Russ:
                                        and that's why they're saying
                                        why all the fires are breaking
                                        out.
 
 Tia:
                                        I’m sorry, I find that very hard
                                        to believe.
 
 Skip:
                                        well they're contradicting
                                        themselves there really.
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Skip:
                                        because if the ground is four
                                        hundred and something degrees,
                                        you'd have a fire.
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Skip:
                                        now how can you walk on ground
                                        that hot if it’s burning?
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh, rubber soles would melt
                                        and so would the feet within it
                                        and so would the people within
                                        it and so would the
                                        eyewitnesses, they would go up
                                        like a torch.
 
 Russ:
                                        okay now in related news, it
                                        says, "in June '98, another huge
                                        volcano Pacaya,
                                        erupted near Guatemala City."
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        'in California, the Mammoth Lake
                                        area appears to be potentially
                                        ready for a possible eruption."
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        "Mount Saint Helens is receiving
                                        about a hundred earthquakes
                                        a day, Mount Rainier also seems
                                        to be dangerously close a
                                        possible eruption."
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        "underwater volcanoes forming
                                        off the coast of California."
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                        "what is being said is that the
                                        entire coastline from Guatemala
                                        to Washington state is becoming
                                        dangerously close to some kind
                                        of major reaction. Exactly what,
                                        no one knows."
 
 Tia:
                                        okay, let’s look at Mammoth
                                        Mountain. Mammoth Mountain is a batholith within
                                        a caldera. A caldera is a
                                        volcano that went kablooey, my
                                        estimate on your planet is about
                                        7,000 years ago. It is still a
                                        hot spot and what is happening
                                        is that magma is coming up to
                                        the surface creating earthquakes
                                        and yes, for Mammoth Mountain,
                                        there is actually that
                                        possibility. If it erupts, it’s
                                        going to be not a major eruption
                                        but it’s going to be on the size
                                        of Mount Saint Helens which was
                                        a small eruption. The volcanoes
                                        off the coast of California, yep
                                        they are there, they’re off the
                                        coast of California, it depends
                                        how far off the coast of
                                        California you're talking about.
 
 Russ:
                                        you mean Hawaii?
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh. In another 50,000 years
                                        there is going to be a new
                                        island. Mount Rainier, yep it’s
                                        a sleeping volcano. The
                                        earthquakes and everything are
                                        natural and useful. Because the
                                        magma is coming to the surface
                                        and meeting colder rock, it
                                        cools and the mountain expands
                                        and as it cools it contracts and
                                        returns back to its normal size
                                        creating……..earthquakes. There
                                        is the possibility that there
                                        will be a buildup of magma. The
                                        magma will break to the surface
                                        and there will be a major
                                        eruption. Mount Hood, I’m
                                        surprised they didn’t mention
                                        Mount Hood, yep that’s doing it
                                        too. I’m surprised they didn’t
                                        mention Mount Shasta.
 
 Skip:
                                        that’s what I was wondering.
 
 Tia:
                                        yep that’s doing it too. You
                                        want to know why they’re doing
                                        it?
 
 Russ:
                                        same reason.
 
 Tia:
                                        same reason, it’s natural. As
                                        the plates subduct under each
                                        other, the magma is heated up
                                        and comes to the surface. It’s
                                        all a natural cycle. If they
                                        explode, yep there’s going to be
                                        great loss of life, yep there’s
                                        going to be great harm, it’s
                                        going to be pretty grim and sad
                                        however, volcanic activities are
                                        very useful. What benefits, what
                                        is the single biggest benefit of
                                        volcanic activity?
 
 Linda
                                          M: land.
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh.
 
 Linda
                                          M: precious
                                        metals?
 
 Tia:
                                        uh-huh. It’s also very, very
                                        rich. Agriculturally,
                                                  it makes the soil
                                                  incredibly rich. One
                                                  of the finest wine
                                                  producing areas so I’m
                                                  told and frequently
                                                  told that we should
                                                  get some Napa Valley
                                                  wine is Napa Valley.
                                                  At the end of Napa
                                                  Valley is a mountain
                                                  called St. Helena, not
                                                  to be confused with
                                                  St. Helens. That whole
                                                  area produces the
                                                  finest wine in the
                                                  United States. The
                                                  Yakima Valley which is
                                                  a fine producer of
                                                  fruits, apples, pears,
                                                  peaches, wines,
                                                  grapes……
 
 Skip:
                                                  cherries.
 
 Tia:
                                                  sorry?
 
 Skip:
                                                  yeah, cherries too.
 
 Tia:
                                                  cherries, is also very
                                                  close to a volcano.
 
 Linda
                                                  M: oh wow. Well is all
                                                  the land formed with
                                                  volcanic eruptions?
 
 Tia:
                                                  yeah, in the long run
                                                  yes it is if you trace
                                                  the history back. Well
                                                  I’ve more than used up
                                                  my allotted time.
 
 Russ:
                                                  oh yeah.
 
 Tia: oh
                                                  yeah, oh yeah.
 
 Russ:
                                                  but you answered many
                                                  questions that are….
 
 Skip:
                                                  thank you darling, I’m
                                                  very grateful.
 
 (Tia
                                                  blows a raspberry and
                                                  then says goodbye in
                                                  Durondedunn)
 
 
 
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