(Karra explains that in choosing which form of healing to use, she needs to know the necessary energy to channel and focus that would work best. She does that as well as presents the perfect example in how she questions a guest on his life to come up with a treatment.) 

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Russ: okay on healing, now we've discussed the various ways to heal…

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay and the problem keeps coming up for me is that with so many options available, finding the best one for that particular occasion gets a little confusing.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and I’m wondering how you deal with a question like that and how you could help me deal with a question like that?

Karra: I go with what feels right at the time, what is necessary at the time. It also comes from experience. Remember, I am 50......nearly 50 years your senior and those 50 years give me that 50 years more experience than you have.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: so I can channel and focus the necessary energy that I think would work best.

Russ: hmm. Don’t you have a set format you would use in particular circumstances?

Karra: yes.

Russ: so it would be a little easier for you as far as you would have a few more technological advances than I have available to me.

Karra: well the question is, if you've seen me working, remember when we were working with Carrie.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: we would talk first.

Russ: correct.

Karra: and I would ask her questions. Questions that I ask are designed by myself to have particular responses. Particular responses or lack of those responses tell me which way to proceed. Now I could give you a framework to work from or I could let you come up with your own questions to ask.

Russ: now we’ve gone over this before…

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: as far as the questions themselves are not that important.

Karra: no, it is the answers that are important.

Russ: right.

Karra: but you cannot get the answers without asking the questions.

Russ: well the questions are all coming at the spur the moment, there’s nothing you could say right now or a set format of questions you could ask.

Karra: kind of, kind of. There are questions that will trigger within me the next lot of questions. Russ, tell me, how was your day?

Russ: productive, stressful and (?).

Karra: uh-huh. What made today stressful?

Russ: just getting my shields straight I'd say.

Karra: what made you react in the ways that you reacted?

Russ: input and the various forms that it took today.

Karra: uh-huh, that is part of healing, is when you’re deciding what type energy and how to proceed with healing. You need those positive inputs, you need to have the full information……..

Russ: well now you worked a lot with crystals with Carrie.

Karra: yes.

Russ: and she responded well to crystal work.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now that’s not true with everybody correct?

Karra: correct.

Russ: okay, so the answers that you get are depending a lot on whether you're going to be using things like crystals or no crystals.

Karra: correct.

Russ: and with no crystals, then you just go on straight with energy work?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: whereas with crystals, that helps you channel the energy.

Karra: correct.

Russ: okay, so how would the person’s answers determine whether they are working with crystals? Nevermind, I'm getting it. Well for the tape's purpose, we'll go ahead finish this out.....because they are responding well to questions concerning crystals and energy.

Karra: correct. It depends on if they're receptive to crystals or if they're receptive to energy work, you use the tools that you have at hand and with the information you are given. For example, if I was to heal you with your problems after questioning you and the answers that you gave me, guess what I would use?

Russ: energy work.

Karra: no, I would use Kiri.

(Russ starts laughing)

Russ: that’s a good tool.

Karra: yes, for the simple reason if you had not opened up, I would hand you over to Kiri and Kiri would peel you like....yes and she is bouncing up and down saying,"may I?"

Russ: saying, “please, please.”

Karra: no she did not say please, she said, "may I?"

Russ: oh, that's fine.

Karra: Johnny, do you have any more questions? Johnny, how has your days been?

John: few days off been?

Karra: uh-huh.

John: okay, a lot of rest......

Karra: uh-huh.

John: and they had a good, important meeting at work yesterday and that was really good and....but yeah overall yeah, I’ve mailed off my Christmas presents to my family and went to the meeting yesterday and that was good, really good.

Karra: what was the energy like at the meeting, you’ve mentioned that twice now?

John: it was good, real positive and I had some good input and yeah it was good, it was.....it was good and I’m really glad I’m going off graveyard and back on swing shift and work is going to be more normalized. It’s been pretty hectic, tomorrow night’s going to be a real interesting night, I’m going to be starting the changeover back.

Karra: uh-huh.

John: but the remodeling has gone good and it’s been an interesting challenge for me and I’ll be back on full time and I’m looking forward to it.

Karra: now the feeling that you get of going back on to swing is a relief correct?

John: oh yeah you betcha, you betcha. This graveyard shift just doesn’t agree with me, I’ve had a hard time with it.

Karra: yeah, it’s an energy drain correct?

John: oh yeah, you betcha, you betcha. Yeah it’s been a challenge, I mean there’s no doubt about that but it was something that if I wanted to continue to work at this place which I do, I had to go through, I just had to go through this period. But yeah, yeah full-time on swing shift is a lot better than part-time on graveyard for me.

Karra: yes I understand. Now to help make the adjustment, what I want you to do is when you get home tomorrow morning….

John: okay.

Karra: is to sit within the pyramid crosslegged, almost in the lotus position….

John: all right.

Karra: and pull in the energy around you right? This will make you feel comfortable and glowing right?

John: okay.

Karra: as you breathe in the air, the energy flows into your lungs and your body and with the air coming in and the energy coming in, it fills your body like a vessel that has been filled with white light. Okay, then when you get off on Thursday morning, we want you to repeat that.

John: okay.

Karra: uh-huh and then tell Russ or Mark what transpired so that it can be relayed to myself up here on the base.

John: all right, yeah I'll let him know what happened.

Karra: and thank you so much for being the perfect patient and explanation. Russ, that's how it's done.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: so much information with just a few words from myself, I learned a lot from Johnny in those few....in that what, three minutes?

John: yeah, couple minutes, yeah sure.

Karra: thank you for being the perfect patient even though it was unintentional I know.

John: well yeah, I’m just being, just being me you know?

Karra: uh-huh. Russ, what did you learn from that little exchange? Thank you.

John: yeah, thank you.

Russ: oh in general that’s how anybody, even me, brought about to reveal what’s been going on in their life.

Karra: uh, huh. What did you learn from that little exchange?

Russ: as in what?

Karra: as in what did you learn?

Russ: you asked how has your last few days been?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and he gave you a detailed explanation.

Karra: I learned that Johnny has very strong feelings about his family which I already knew, strong feelings about energies, strong feeling about work, the fact that he’s been feeling drained and tired because of working graveyard. The fact that he’s feeling energized about going back on to swing. Five things that spring to mind straight away and you did not pick up on any of them correct?

Russ: correct.

Karra: you have to listen. Now listen to this room and tell me what you hear?

Russ: heater coming on?

Karra: uh-huh.

John: you can hear them making snow up on Heavenly.

Karra: that’s good.

Russ: traffic outside…

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: off the left side of the room here...right side.

Karra: uh-huh. Clock ticking.

Russ: clock ticking.

Karra: the recorder whirring, I can hear Mark’s heart beating, I can hear your heart beating fairly loudly and I can just about hear Johnny’s heart beating. Now what can you feel in this room? Tension from you obviously.

Russ: obviously.

Karra: yes, because I am unfortunately pounding on your shielding am I not?

Russ: well I’m used to that darling.

Karra: uh-huh but it’s important. The love that I have for you, I want you to do so well and when you’re tired and low on energy, I see that that is the opportunity to make these lessons stick with you easier than when you’re being playful and mischievous.

Russ: true and also I think this job is going to go well but I think this initial phase here is going to be a little bit draining.

Karra: yes it will be, we will work on that later on tonight, okay?

Russ: okay.

Karra: bye.

John: see ya.