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                 (Karra presents a
                      dissertation on the ritual of healing, something
                      common in all types of healing including surgery.
                      The topic morphs into how to create a room where
                      healing in such a ritual kind of way can be done
                      so we go over some options.)
 
 
 Karra: let’s see, what
                                                can we discuss?
 
 Russ: well we can
                                                discuss your diplomatic
                                                fun games you have
                                                coming up here or we can
                                                go on to more dietary
                                                supplemental things.
 
 Skip: or if you want to
                                                go on to the physical,
                                                spiritual healing bit
                                                you can go that way too.
 
 Karra: okay that works.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Karra: physical, mental
                                                and spiritual healing.
                                                Okay now what have we
                                                got so far? We have
                                                using water to cleanse
                                                your hands….
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Karra: we have using
                                                energy balls.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Karra: we have using
                                                rituals. Have we covered
                                                rituals?
 
 Russ: yeah.
 
 Skip: a little, maybe I
                                                wasn't present when you
                                                covered them thoroughly.
 
 Karra: well we can cover
                                                them again, it’s always
                                                handy to go over
                                                rituals. Now part of the
                                                healing purpose of a
                                                ritual is to awaken the
                                                conscious, spiritual
                                                side of an individual
                                                and also to bring the
                                                two energy patterns into
                                                alignment where they can
                                                work together. Sometimes
                                                it’s necessary for a
                                                healer to go down but
                                                sometimes a healer can’t
                                                go down that far so the
                                                healer will go down as
                                                far as they can and
                                                bring the other person
                                                up to a spiritual level
                                                that is close enough for
                                                the healer to work from.
                                                Now depending on what
                                                religious beliefs the
                                                individual is depends on
                                                what religious practices
                                                the healer will use in a
                                                ritualized ceremonial
                                                healing. Let’s say you
                                                are a Native American.
                                                Okay what you would do
                                                is to bring somebody up
                                                or down to your
                                                spiritual level
                                                depending on their level
                                                or their energy level is
                                                that you would sit with
                                                them within a very hot
                                                area which is part of
                                                the spiritual……..you
                                                would call it I believe
                                                a heat house?
 
 Skip: sweat lodge.
 
 Karra: sweat……thank
                                                you…..sweat lodge and in
                                                doing so what you’re
                                                doing is you’re bringing
                                                them up or down to your
                                                level as well as you
                                                moving up or down to
                                                their level. That is
                                                part of the religious
                                                practice that aids in
                                                the ceremonial and
                                                ritualized healing. Now
                                                once you have achieved
                                                that level then you can
                                                start to do the healing
                                                process of the energy
                                                transference which in
                                                actual fact what you're
                                                doing is you’re guiding
                                                their energy and
                                                augmenting it with your
                                                energy into a healing
                                                platform that they can
                                                use. Whether it is more
                                                your energy than their
                                                energy is besides the
                                                point, what you’re doing
                                                is you’re getting them
                                                to focus the energy and
                                                do the work themselves.
                                                A lot of healing rituals
                                                are designed to do just
                                                that is that even though
                                                we have an unlimited
                                                supply of energy to work
                                                with, it is limited by
                                                several factors. One is
                                                our stamina, one is
                                                their stamina, one is
                                                the mental condition
                                                that you're in, one is
                                                the mental condition
                                                that they're in, one is
                                                the actual health that
                                                they’re in. These are
                                                just five factors that
                                                have to be considered
                                                when doing a ritualized
                                                healing. Also part of
                                                some rituals is fasting
                                                or taking psychedelic
                                                drugs to aid in bringing
                                                the mental awareness up
                                                or down so that they can
                                                mesh with you. Now these
                                                rituals are very
                                                important to some
                                                people, even in modern
                                                surgical facilities it’s
                                                very ritualized.
                                                Scalpel, forceps,
                                                autoclave, suture,
                                                needle, forceps, swab,
                                                it’s all very, very
                                                ritualized in how things
                                                are done and for a
                                                reason. Because even
                                                though the subject is
                                                unconscious, the energy
                                                is being aided and flown
                                                through the ritual.
                                                Forceps, scalpel,
                                                suture, clamp, irrigate,
                                                swab, all these are part
                                                of the ritual. Even in a
                                                modern setting with the
                                                lighting and the
                                                sterilized table and the
                                                sterilized equipment and
                                                so on. So the ritual,
                                                even if you think it’s
                                                not practiced anymore,
                                                actually is. If you take
                                                into consideration such
                                                other practices as
                                                listening to classical
                                                music whilst they’re
                                                doing the procedure or
                                                their favorite tunes of
                                                the subject that is in
                                                healing or bringing them
                                                gifts of flowers and
                                                sitting and talking with
                                                them, that’s all
                                                ritualized if you look
                                                it how things happen.
                                                Okay……..well all don’t
                                                ask a question all at
                                                once, it’s overwhelming.
 
 Skip: yes I realize that
                                                it is, I’m just
                                                observing and dissolving
                                                on what you said.
 
 Karra: I know.
 
 Russ: well I’m working
                                                on how to change that
                                                downstairs into a more
                                                energy center. Now
                                                that's all pretty much
                                                all what it can be used
                                                for, what it will be
                                                used for. So to aid in
                                                healing let’s say or to
                                                aid in meditation and to
                                                use your ritual like
                                                you're talking about,
                                                how to set that up.
 
 Skip: can I intervene
                                                here just a minute?
 
 Karra: certainly.
 
 Skip: okay I was going
                                                to a lady that’s a
                                                graduate from Barbara…
 
 Karra: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: physical,
                                                spiritual, healing
                                                graduate. The room that
                                                she had set up had a
                                                table in it, her desk, a
                                                radio…..a disc player
                                                actually is what it was
                                                and two open windows.
 
 Karra: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: nothing more to
                                                distract you but nothing
                                                less to distract you. In
                                                other words it was
                                                comfortable and she
                                                would play soft music
                                                while all this was going
                                                on.
 
 Karra: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: no vocal music,
                                                all instrumental.
 
 Karra: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: it was very
                                                relaxing and she went
                                                through her own physical
                                                ritual of hands-on
                                                healing……..
 
 Karra: hmmm.
 
 Skip: where she went the
                                                same route every time
                                                that……..you understand
                                                what I’m saying?
 
 Karra: yes.
 
 Skip: because that’s the
                                                way she was trained….
 
 Karra: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: and it’s part of
                                                her ritual.
 
 Karra: exactly but the
                                                problem that Russ has
                                                brought up is what do
                                                you want the room for?
 
 Russ: well it’s a
                                                multipurpose room.
 
 Karra: that’s right, so
                                                you got the problem.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Karra: for healing you
                                                want a bright, light
                                                airy facility. For
                                                meditation you want it
                                                fairly dark, you want it
                                                comfortable, you want it
                                                warm so therefore you’ve
                                                got the conflicting
                                                structures but I think
                                                we can work with that.
                                                One of the important
                                                things is the energy
                                                flow, all centers
                                                require a good energy
                                                flow, good being the
                                                operative word. What you
                                                might think about doing
                                                is moving exercise
                                                equipment out of that
                                                area and putting it
                                                somewhere where it
                                                is……because what you're
                                                doing is you're creating
                                                a different kind of
                                                energy that is not that
                                                compatible with it.
 
 Skip: it distracts you?
 
 Karra: correct, what I’m
                                                saying getting back to
                                                the energy flow, it is
                                                important to have the
                                                correct energy flow.
                                                It’s not a storage area
                                                for clothing, it is not
                                                a storage area for
                                                knickknacks, it is what
                                                you want it to be is a
                                                healing, meditation,
                                                metaphysical area
                                                correct? So that’s
                                                something that has to be
                                                laid out.
 
 Russ: all right so we
                                                actually have to design
                                                it.
 
 Karra: correct and then
                                                once it is being used
                                                for that purpose, that
                                                is the purpose it is
                                                used for, it is not a
                                                storage area. It is not
                                                a area to come down, sit
                                                down and just be idle.
                                                It is an area that you
                                                go to do your
                                                meditation, to do your
                                                healing, to do your
                                                research on astral
                                                travel, to do your
                                                various techniques and
                                                practices.......
 
 Russ: I see.
 
 Karra: but it is not an
                                                area for storage. I know
                                                I’m harping on that.
 
 Russ: no, no, no, you’re
                                                right, you’re right.
 
 Karra: yeah. So having
                                                an exercise equipment in
                                                there is also a
                                                distraction.
 
 Russ: well I can get
                                                that out of there,
                                                that's easy.
 
 Karra: yeah, having a
                                                setup that is beneficial
                                                for mental awareness and
                                                advancement is what you
                                                want. So what you might
                                                try to do……and here’s an
                                                idea……is the little
                                                window, not the sliding
                                                glass one.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Karra: is get one of
                                                those curtains that
                                                comes in a circle that
                                                you can draw open and
                                                closed. Something like
                                                that would be perfect
                                                because you can do your
                                                healing with beautiful
                                                light streaming in
                                                through the windows,
                                                actually that’s a little
                                                bit tricky with that
                                                window, it will give it
                                                more lighting.
 
 Skip: and then do you
                                                meditation by closing
                                                it, the blind.
 
 Karra: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Karra: another thing to
                                                do would be to
                                                specifically designate
                                                that as your domain.
 
 Russ: right, well I set
                                                that the other day.
 
 Karra: yes I know and it
                                                is totally your domain.
 
 
 
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