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                 (Tia
                              compares past presidents of the United
                              States and whether or not they had been
                              programmed to do the bidding of others or
                              were independently strong. From her
                              analysis she then tells us which of them
                              she would have voted for and why)
 
 
 Tia:
                                          okay, let’s get down to
                                          business.
 
 Russ: politics darling?
 
 Tia: yes okay……
 
 Russ: all right.
 
 Tia: uh-huh. This is where
                                          it’s going to get boring I’m
                                          sorry but it’s got to get
                                          boring.
 
 Russ: yeah afraid so. Okay,
                                          Kemp and Gore.
 
 Tia: I haven’t seen the full
                                          report on that yet as I had to
                                          prep up and get ready.
 
 John: oh yeah but they just
                                          finished tonight, they just
                                          finished it up.
 
 Russ: okay, now we’re talking
                                          about Kemp’s version of the
                                          future compared to Gore’s
                                          version of the future…
 
 Tia: yeah?
 
 Russ: okay as you say Gore
                                          runs the country, in that case
                                          the vice presidential debate
                                          had more emphasis tonight to
                                          look for than the Clinton
                                          debate with Dole.
 
 Tia: correct.
 
 Russ: okay, so in that
                                          respect, let’s go ahead and
                                          take it from the first part.
 
 Tia: okay let me pertain
                                          something in advance…
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Tia: right? You have to
                                          remember that it’s not just
                                          Gore, it’s Hillary Rodham
                                          Clinton and Gore.
 
 Russ: she wasn’t there so we
                                          have to just rough it….
 
 Tia: so....so when Bill says
                                          something right? He’s been
                                          prepared in advance by Hillary
                                          as a rule. Makes logical sense
                                          correct?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 John: it’s a technique used in
                                          politics.
 
 Tia: yeah, yeah, oh I quite
                                          agree but I’m taking this
                                          election now and how it’s
                                          going to outcome later on, not
                                          what’s happened in the past,
                                          that plays a part, that plays
                                          a very important part. For
                                          example, Bush to start off
                                          with had been preprogrammed…..
 
 John: really?
 
 Tia: by Reagan, he was
                                          Reagan’s man. But….
 
 John: right and who was Reagan
                                          preprogrammed by?
 
 Tia: he wasn’t programmed by
                                          anybody actually.
 
 John: Reagan wasn’t programmed
                                          at all?
 
 Tia: no, no, you have to
                                          remember that Reagan……
 
 John: wasn’t it an actor being
                                          programmed?
 
 Tia: because he was an actor,
                                          that makes him very hard to be
                                          programed. He can learn the
                                          lines it makes him wonderful
                                          at learning lines but if you
                                          watch some of his movies
                                          right? And the outtakes, he’s
                                          a very, very accomplished
                                          comedian. Comedians cannot be
                                          programmed very well. Another
                                          person that was programmed and
                                          sadly it backfired on him was
                                          Nixon, Nixon was programmed
                                          and he had been programed for
                                          years and years and years.
                                          When he left the military,
                                          that’s when his programming
                                          started. Another individual
                                          that was programmed was
                                          Kennedy, Kennedy was
                                          programmed, very much so......
 
 John: very much so.
 
 Tia: by his running mate,
                                          Lyndon B. Johnson. Lyndon B.
                                          Johnson was not programmed, he
                                          was one of those people that
                                          was supremely good at
                                          manipulating other people. In
                                          fact it’s almost the same
                                          situation that is happening
                                          now, happened in 1960 with
                                          Kennedy and Johnson and Gore
                                          and Clinton.
 
 John: okay, good analogy……
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 John: I can respect that.
 
 Tia: yeah, my political
                                          opinions bear no relevance in
                                          my political analysis. I admit
                                          that I'm a little bit more
                                          conservative, I’m not as
                                          conservative as Mark but I am
                                          more conservative than what is
                                          common in your political
                                          system. I would not vote for
                                          Dole, I would definitely would
                                          not vote for Kemp, I wouldn't
                                          have voted for Buchanan, in
                                          fact I don't think I would’ve
                                          voted for anybody that ran.
 
 Russ: what about Powell?
 
 Tia: would not have voted for
                                          him, military leaders as a
                                          rule do not make good
                                          political leaders, there are
                                          exceptions to the rules.
 
 Russ: what about if John F.
                                          Kennedy was running again?
 
 Tia: who?
 
 Russ: John F. Kennedy?
 
 Tia: oh JFK?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: would not vote for him.
 
 John: what about Eisenhower?
 
 Russ: what past presidents
                                          would you vote for, Lincoln?
 
 Tia: yes, Lincoln is one.
                                          Ford, nope wouldn’t have voted
                                          for him.
 
 Russ: Carter?
 
 Tia: definitely not, there was
                                          somebody that was not
                                          programmed and was not very
                                          good at his job either. You
                                          know, I don’t think there is
                                          anybody this…..there is one
                                          person I would’ve voted for….
 
 Russ: who?
 
 Tia: Calvin Coolidge.
 
 Russ: Coolidge huh?
 
 Tia: uh-huh because he was
                                          honest, he tried hard, he
                                          worked hard, he stuck to his
                                          principles and unfortunately
                                          he paid the price. He only did
                                          what? One term?
 
 Russ: uh-huh. What about Teddy
                                          Roosevelt?
 
 Tia: no, he was very
                                          manipulated.
 
 Russ: FDR, he was controlled,
                                          for the situation he was in…..
 
 Tia: oh, I’m sorry, mistaken,
                                          mistaken. FDR is the one that
                                          was manipulated, Teddy was
                                          not, Teddy was too strong.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Tia: he was.......
 
 John: too independent, too
                                          strong?
 
 Tia: yes, he did some great
                                          things but he was also very
                                          harmful.
 
 John: it looked like he was
                                          doing a good thing….
 
 Tia: yeah.
 
 John: and that was his
                                          intention.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 John: the long-term effects
                                          were detrimental.
 
 Tia: yeah but he tried to do
                                          what he thought was right and
                                          he stood on his principles. I
                                          would have voted for him yes,
                                          just, just. It would’ve been a
                                          real tossup between him and
                                          probably Coolidge if they were
                                          running at the same time.
                                          Woodrow Wilson? I would lean
                                          more not toward voting for him
                                          but if I had a choice of let’s
                                          say Woodrow Wilson, FDR and
                                          Kennedy, then Wilson would
                                          just about win for the fact
                                          that he tried to reason
                                          logically instead of
                                          emotionally.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Tia: but his reasoning and
                                          logic was flawed.
 
 John: now this is hindsight
                                          looking back.
 
 Tia: uh-huh. Okay now looking
                                          at the current situation, I
                                          wouldn't vote for any of them,
                                          I honestly would not vote for
                                          any of them.
 
 
 
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