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                 (Omal
                              gives a dissertation on the pervasive
                              sloppiness inherent in the culture of NASA
                              at the time. He brings up the Challenger
                              disaster as his analogy where lessons were
                              not learned. The shuttle Columbia’s flight
                              into space that is mentioned is the
                              example he uses where serious mistakes
                              were made but ignored for politics at
                              NASA. Nearly four years later on its next
                              flight, the shuttle disintegrated on
                              reentry after an exploratory spacewalk to
                              review the damage was denied by the
                              management of NASA.)
 
 
 Omal:
                                          okay finally, your area of
                                          habitation being the United
                                          States. Okay, let us look at
                                          what is going on throughout
                                          the United States. There are
                                          certainly some very
                                          interesting little things
                                          going on but we will save
                                          those for the moment and look
                                          at something that is of
                                          concern in a sloppy nature.
                                          Just a few days ago launched
                                          into orbit was the space
                                          shuttle. As it was launched
                                          there was a fuel leak. I am
                                          personally very concerned over
                                          the reasoning to let a mission
                                          continue that is having fuel
                                          problems that even as it went
                                          into high orbit it was leaking
                                          fuel of a serious nature. It
                                          seems to me just a few years
                                          ago that a failure in a O-ring
                                          led to the leakage of fuel
                                          that ended in the disaster of
                                          the Challenger space shuttle.
                                          Have they forgotten what
                                          happened? Have they forgotten
                                          the harm that was done? Have
                                          they forgotten the
                                          repercussions? I am very
                                          concerned about the sloppiness
                                          of NASA and in turn the
                                          sloppiness in general of what
                                          is going on throughout your
                                          country that this is just a
                                          symptom of what is happening.
                                          If you factor in with the
                                          previous mentions and comments
                                          on the necessary actions for
                                          reform and you analyze that
                                          factoring in also the
                                          sloppiness of NASA and things
                                          in general, you may be able to
                                          if you use as much of the
                                          information as possible,
                                          realize that there is an
                                          overall trend and something
                                          needs to be looked at to
                                          understand why. I am not
                                          saying that there is a
                                          positive or a negative way of
                                          remedying these situations but
                                          being aware of them can be an
                                          advantage to particular goals.
                                          Getting back to what is going
                                          on within your continental
                                          United States, we can look at
                                          other situations and cases
                                          where sloppiness is a factor
                                          that is very causematic on a
                                          general symptom overall. For
                                          example, it seems to me that
                                          there is a investigation going
                                          on that has been handled very
                                          sloppily that has been
                                          spending a considerable length
                                          of time within news mediums
                                          that is no nearer to being
                                          solved than it was when it
                                          occurred a few years ago.
                                          Again that is a symptom of
                                          sloppiness and is a general
                                          case feeling that is going on.
                                          It is something that may be
                                          worth investigating for other
                                          symptoms of, for want of a
                                          better term, sloppiness. Okay
                                          do we have any questions?
                                          Let’s start around the room.
                                          Young lady?
 
 Vicki: no.
 
 Omal: okay, Russ?
 
 Russ: of course.
 
 Omal: of course.
 
 Russ: you can go through
                                          everybody else if you want
                                          first.
 
 Omal: okay.
 
 Shane: no Sir.
 
 Omal: nothing okay, nothing?
 
 Skip: no, not at the present
                                          time.
 
 Omal: okay.
 
 Russ: back to me, okay I
                                          studied the space shuttle
                                          launch pretty extensively…..
 
 Omal: yes I know, that is why
                                          I brought it up.
 
 Russ: right, now the fuel
                                          leakage that you mentioned was
                                          reported in the media, it was
                                          reported as being a false fuel
                                          leakage which is why they
                                          delayed it the second time and
                                          they found that wasn't a fuel
                                          leak and they could’ve
                                          launched anyway.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: what the problem on the
                                          main launch happened was that
                                          the power cell that controlled
                                          the two engines, two of the
                                          controllers out of the three
                                          went out, or the controller
                                          that controlled two of the
                                          things went out and had to go
                                          switch to backups.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and the pilot, the
                                          commander, she radioed in that
                                          she was reading a fuel
                                          leak.....but the media reports
                                          said that it wasn’t a the fuel
                                          leak, it was a short.
 
 Omal: no it was a fuel leak.
 
 Russ: it was a fuel leak
                                          because like I say, they
                                          downplayed it as being just a
                                          false reading.
 
 Omal: that is incorrect, it
                                          was a fuel leak.
 
 Russ: ahh, well makes a
                                          difference.
 
 Omal: yes, that is why I say I
                                          am very concerned and the
                                          logic of downplaying it is
                                          also evident in the comments
                                          that I made about Challenger.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: so it is something that
                                          hopefully they
                                          realize.......let me rephrase
                                          that, obviously they realize
                                          the very serious nature but it
                                          is still sloppy. At any time
                                          they could’ve aborted and
                                          ditched the tanks and returned
                                          to or landed at a different
                                          location. They took the risk.
                                          After all, going into space
                                          the business is very risky but
                                          they have never used any of
                                          the emergency scenarios. I
                                          would’ve thought this would’ve
                                          been the perfect opportunity
                                          to do so however there was
                                          political pressure because of
                                          the first female commander of
                                          the space shuttle.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: so it had to be a
                                          success. Supposing the
                                          pressure from political
                                          sources meant the death of the
                                          commander and the crew, that
                                          would’ve served their purpose
                                          just as well as a successful
                                          mission.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: she would’ve been
                                          immortalized and canonized as
                                          the first female commander to
                                          die in space. It would’ve
                                          served their purposes far
                                          better than to have a
                                          successful mission. The
                                          successful mission means that
                                          the space missions can
                                          continue. If it had been a
                                          disastrous failure and all
                                          life had been lost with the
                                          vessel, certainly it would’ve
                                          been a great tragedy but the
                                          political forces would’ve
                                          turned it to their advantage
                                          so there are these factors to
                                          be weighed as well.
 
 Russ: uh-huh, okay.
 
 Skip: question.
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Skip: it seems to me, maybe
                                          I'm wrong and I’m clutching at
                                          straws but it seems to me
                                          every time a woman is involved
                                          in this space projects…..
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: they get so much
                                          political pressure they
                                          stumble over their own feet
                                          trying to get it done.
 
 Omal: yes, I think you are
                                          very correct. The
                                          schoolteacher, Christa
                                          McAuliffe, is that correct in
                                          her name?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: she is very much been
                                          canonized as the first
                                          civilian space fatality.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: a common-garden,
                                          everyday school teacher going
                                          off into space and losing her
                                          life. You see what happened to
                                          her in the way that she has
                                          been canonized by the
                                          political system, the same
                                          thing but only greater
                                          would’ve happened to the
                                          current commander of the space
                                          shuttle. So Skip is very
                                          correct in saying that
                                          political pressure is brought
                                          to bear at a tremendous amount
                                          for these missions to succeed
                                          but secretly they are happy
                                          either way. If it fails they
                                          become canonized and they can
                                          go and be very political and
                                          do great deeds under this
                                          person’s name by setting up
                                          trust funds and awards and
                                          scholarships and so on as
                                          happened in the Christa
                                          McAuliffe situation. What they
                                          would have done if the current
                                          commander had been killed? Who
                                          knows but certainly it
                                          would’ve been a great cry in a
                                          political sense. Okay, let us
                                          continue.
 
 Russ: okay, in regards to the
                                          case you were talking about…..
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: that’s one case where we
                                          saw a lot of sloppiness in the
                                          police department but we just
                                          recently saw another case.
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: I’m wondering if that
                                          along with the general
                                          lackadaisical attitude like
                                          Skip was mentioning and you
                                          were mentioning…..
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: is a sign that we are
                                          approaching entropy?
 
 Omal: what did I say a few
                                          moments ago?
 
 Russ: just it’s a spreading
                                          thing.
 
 Omal: which would imply?
 
 Russ: kind of that people
                                          don’t care, apathetic attitude
                                          toward certain aspects of
                                          their jobs and life in
                                          general.
 
 Omal: now if you take it
                                          further, what happens? Follow
                                          the equation through.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Omal: if everybody doesn’t
                                          care, nothing happens. When
                                          nothing happens……
 
 Russ: entropy.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Omal: and everything collapses
                                          within itself and so on.
 
 Russ: isn’t it a circular
                                          route we could call it or is
                                          it a reversible route?
 
 Omal: I cannot say.
 
 Skip: it sounds like that
                                          everybody has got to factor
                                          this out for themselves.
 
 Omal: that is why I cannot
                                          say.
 
 Skip: uh-huh okay.
 
 
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