(Karra reflects on the family home and its connection with the Sirian Chronicles as we go over what I had seen thanks to her father showing me around. We find out then that his bond mate was now pregnant with their child which was some exciting news. Gonzo is her name and at the time she had been a simple country girl bonding to an important Senator who would one day be president of the planet.) 

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Karra: as it’s a free night I haven’t prepared any notes as you well know.

Russ: as I well know.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: Sunday was good…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: glad I stopped off to see the kids and everything, I loved that. Now what about that painting that Miranda drew or painted?

Karra: she has seen pictures of home.

Russ: oh she has?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I thought it might be just memories.

Karra: oh, it could be some memories but…...

Russ: but she’s seen pictures and just knew that that was the family home?

Karra: yeah. Well you remember the conversation that I was eavesdropping on that you and Mark were having about how spiritually meaningful home was?

Russ: oh yes right, how spiritual it is to anybody who is a part of the family.

Karra: uh-huh yes it’s…..

Russ: it’s a spiritual kind of….

Karra: it’s more than that.

Russ: sacred place almost.

Karra: yes, it is a sacred place for us.

Russ: and it’s probably a sacred place for a lot of people on the planet.

Karra: no, only for our family as far as I know.

Russ: well isn’t that where the rock that was described in the story from Kiri?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: is that?

Karra: yeah, the house is built on it.

Russ: right.

Karra: but that’s just the line, our line, our link to Sarra.

(from the Sirian Chronicles)

Russ: right.

Karra: uh-huh. A lot of it is legend that can’t be proven or substantiated and a lot of it is true. There is......the next time you go home, I’ll take you down into the cellars.

Russ: okay, I’d like that, I don’t think I’ve seen the cellars yet.

Karra: yeah and you can see.....well you know where the cellars are?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: that wall that is all rock and rock stone that’s built up?

Russ: I haven’t been down there though.

Karra: oh pity, pity.

Russ: your dad’s only taken me up in the study and stuff mostly.

Karra: he hasn’t shown you our wine cellars?

Russ: he hasn’t shown me the wine cellars.

Karra: his pride and joy?

Russ: no, you have to remember, I was only there as almost like……I wasn’t there as a tourist, I was there to have a chat, drinking tea…..

Karra: yes, he took you to his office didn’t he?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: that’s almost directly above it actually.

Russ: really?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: we had a really nice glass of wine though that one time.......nice claret.

Karra: yeah well the wall that is the…..sorry?

Russ: nice claret.

Karra: of course. The wall that is the entrance way into the cellars is the back wall from the original cabin.

Russ: oh.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: and the house was built up around that. Everybody’s added their own little part to it, every head of the family.

Russ: what’s your dad done?

Karra: his office.

Russ: oh that’s his?

Karra: uh-huh, he remodeled it. He didn't add a new a new room, he just remodeled the room and made it basically a new room. He is talking about putting a play room on for his newest child. You know she’s pregnant again?

Russ: is she?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: Gonzo’s pregnant, neat.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well good for her.

Karra: she still has a hard time though.

Russ: why is that?

Karra: well with the servants but they’ve accepted her now.

Russ: well she’s almost like that original…

Karra: yes she is a little bit.

Russ: one who the story's built up around.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: in fact, he’s a lot like the guy in that story.

Karra: yes he is. I always….

Russ: what a coincidence.

Karra: I always thought that it was my mother that was the original but maybe it’s an attraction of the two types of people.

Russ: I would say so.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: your dad probably doesn't really like the more affluent members of the society probably......

Karra: no, I don’t think he does.

Russ: female wise.

Karra: he’s more attracted to simple but intelligent.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: yeah more into simple ways of living. Out of the whole entire house, this is funny, they could live and move around as free as they want and she sticks basically to their little apartment and will go out the back door. It’s funny, mother was much the same. They lived when mother was alive as mother, they lived at the other end of the house. You know that wing that’s close to the servant's quarters?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: that’s what they lived.

Russ: really?

Karra: that’s where I grew up. I had full run of the house. She didn’t mind going into the library or the studies or down to the cellars or anything, she didn’t mind that at all.

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