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                 (Leah tells us a bit about her and
                          Bunny’s family, the Tenuvial family who live
                          by the shores of Sirius. She explains that the
                          origin story of their family is a special one
                          told over three days by thousands of family
                          members at a special ceremony held at the
                          conjunction of their sun and moons. We also
                          hear about the Festival of Fish where the task
                          is to catch a fish climbing the rocks of a
                          waterfall that averages six plus feet and
                          weighs hundreds of pounds. She adds to our
                          knowledge of the planet by explaining how
                          their astrological signs are different from
                          ours by giving us her and Bunny’s signs.)
 
 
 Leah: hello.
 
 Russ: hello.
 
 Leah: hello.
 
 Russ: hello Leah?
 
 Leah: yes.
 
 Russ: hi Leah, how you doing dear?
 
 Leah: not too bad.
 
 Russ: the Tenuvi clan?
 
 Leah: Tenuvial.
 
 Russ: Tenuvial clan, that’s right.
 
 Leah: family
 
 Russ: family. Hmm....
 
 Leah: clan is something I do not
                                  understand.
 
 Russ: it is the same thing only more
                                  Celtic.......which you don’t
                                  understand either…..it’s
                                  a……..nevermind. Anyway, how are you
                                  doing my dear?
 
 Leah: okay, what is Celtic?
 
 Russ: Celtic is a group of peoples of
                                  many different families and cultures
                                  that inhabited the northern part of
                                  the continent we now call Europe.
                                  Mostly in the British Isles where Mark
                                  is from.
 
 Leah: but you call them a can?
 
 Russ: clan.
 
 Leah: clan.
 
 Russ: yes, because that’s what they
                                  call themselves.
 
 Leah: so as a group they’re called a
                                  clan?
 
 Russ: no, multiple, different clans.
                                  For example you had the McCloud clan
                                  and you had the……
 
 Leah: why is Tia going there can only
                                  be one? When you said McCloud she
                                  started leaping around saying there
                                  can only be one.
 
 Russ: that would be from a popular
                                  media, movie series down here called
                                  “Highlander” which is a movie
                                  about……..it’s a fictional movie
                                  concerning clans that….
 
 Leah: holo, okay.
 
 Russ: okay, you got it all figured
                                  out.
 
 Leah: I didn’t get that last part, I
                                  was wondering what a movie is?
 
 Russ: cinema, like a holo (Hologram).
 
 Leah: that’s with Tia said…..
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Leah: holo.
 
 Russ: holo.
 
 Leah: you were saying it is a
                                  fictional holo of…...
 
 Russ: of a story about immortal kind
                                  of beings who fight among themselves
                                  so that there is only one left who
                                  then receives the great prize.
 
 Leah: so they fight to kill each
                                  other?
 
 Russ: right, they have to behead each
                                  other.
 
 Leah: then they are not immortal,
                                  there is a problem there.
 
 Russ: right, they call themselves
                                  immortals because if they aren’t
                                  beheaded they live forever.
 
 Leah: they assume they live forever.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Leah: but it is a recreational
                                  entertainment?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Leah: oh okay. So it’s a recreational,
                                  fictional entertainment. Hmm,
                                  interesting concept.
 
 Russ: well sort of like what your
                                  sister does but with more of a
                                  storyline to it.
 
 Leah: hers do not have a storyline?
 
 Russ: no.
 
 Leah: have you seen one?
 
 Russ: yeah.
 
 Leah: have you watched it all the way
                                  through?
 
 Russ: no.
 
 Leah: well, you can’t say can you?
 
 Russ: well I can’t stay up there long
                                  enough to watch a whole thing all the
                                  way through.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: but there is a storyline then?
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: oh okay.
 
 Leah: you would have to ask her.
 
 Russ: I’ll ask her when I see her
                                  next. Anyway darling, how are you this
                                  evening?
 
 Leah: I’m doing well.
 
 Russ: good to hear it, good to hear
                                  it.
 
 Leah: do I have to give a talk?
 
 Russ: no actually, I’m just going to
                                  ask you a few questions about your
                                  family.
 
 Leah: okay.
 
 Russ: all right, we know quite a bit
                                  about the Tanaka family from their
                                  history and where they came from and
                                  the various myths and legends that led
                                  up to where they’re at now but we know
                                  absolutely nothing about the Tenuvial
                                  clan or family…..
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and I was wondering if you might
                                  fill in a few of the blanks?
 
 Leah: what would you like to know?
 
 Russ: well for example with the Tanaka
                                  family we have various legends or a
                                  legend in particular that describes
                                  their origins, is there any such thing
                                  in the Tenuvial family?
 
 Leah: there is a story, rather long
                                  story of us coming out of the sea to a
                                  land that was empty but full of life.
 
 Russ: oh, is there a short version of
                                  it?
 
 Leah: no not really.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Leah: it’s more of…..I don’t know what
                                  the word would be…..it’s….
 
 Russ: an epic?
 
 Leah: what’s an epic?
 
 Russ: epic is a very long story that
                                  has many twists and turns, a start,
                                  beginning, middle.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: a dramatic.....
 
 Leah: yes, kind of like that, I think
                                  I know what you mean. An epic would be
                                  a long drawn out story involving many
                                  gyrations of families or family
                                  members.
 
 Russ: right yeah, that’s it.
 
 Leah: yes and no. Kiri says saga.
 
 Russ: saga, another good one, yes.
 
 Leah: uh-huh, I know what a saga is.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Leah: yes almost a saga but it is you
                                  would call ballad saga?
 
 Russ: of yes, almost a singing kind of
                                  thing.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: longer than a 90 minute tape
                                  probably.
 
 Leah: it normally takes…when we tell
                                  it we tell it at special times, the
                                  harvest of the springing fish. We will
                                  sit around......the whole entire
                                  family would get together, all 3,000
                                  of us at the last count and we each
                                  tell a part.......
 
 Russ: ohhh.
 
 Leah: and it will go for a few days.
 
 Russ: wow.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: well can you tell me your part?
 
 Leah: my part would definitely take
                                  more than one of your recording times.
 
 Russ: oh well, it’s a thought. Okay
                                  what is a springing fish?
 
 Leah: it is a fish that is a big fish
                                  that climbs rocks with water.
 
 Russ: oh like a leaping fish.
 
 Leah: uh-huh and it goes……..
 
 Russ: like our salmon.
 
 Leah: it’s not salmon.
 
 Russ: oh but we have salmon that do
                                  the same thing.
 
 Leah: they’re about this big.
 
 Russ: that’s not a big fish.
 
 Leah: hmm?
 
 Russ: that’s not a big fish.
 
 Leah: did I say big fish?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Leah: oh well.
 
 Russ: no that’s a tiny, little thing.
 
 Leah: well this is…….
 
 Russ: I thought you meant these big,
                                  giant tarpon-like things.
 
 Leah: oh there are those but they’re
                                  not springing fish, those are the
                                  climbing fish.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Leah: and it used to be in our history
                                  that to prove that you were a person
                                  of reckoning you would catch one.
 
 Russ: oh, very difficult I take it?
 
 Leah: well I’ve never succeeded and
                                  I’ve tried a few times, for fun.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Leah: the only thing that you have is
                                  your swimsuit.
 
 Russ: hmm, I’ll bet Huna could catch
                                  some.
 
 Leah: hmm….
 
 Russ: she strikes me as one of those
                                  springing fish kind of people.
 
 Leah: well you stand on the rocks and
                                  you try to catch them as they come.
 
 Russ: yeah she’d love that.
 
 Leah: she says she’s tried.
 
 Russ: hasn’t caught one?
 
 Leah: nope.
 
 Russ: I am shocked.
 
 Leah: well I actually had a hold of
                                  one on one occasion…..
 
 Russ: did you?
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: ahhh good job.
 
 Leah: had my fingers in its gills, I
                                  was about 14 and I wrestled it and
                                  wrassled and wrassled and it broke my
                                  fingers.
 
 Russ: ahhh.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: for a little fish that’s a
                                  strong little fish.
 
 Leah: no, this is the……not the
                                  springing fish…..
 
 Russ: oh the climbing fish.
 
 Leah: the climbing fish.
 
 Russ: oh they’re bigger then.
 
 Leah: uh-huh, they’re about……average
                                  one is about I should say seven feet
                                  long?
 
 Russ: geez.
 
 Leah: no, the length of the futon.
 
 Russ: okay that’s six feet plus a
                                  little bit. Yeah that’s a big fish.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: yeah I could see where that
                                  would be definitely someone to reckon
                                  with.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: wow, that’s amazing you even
                                  tried at 14. Man that sucker would be
                                  quite a bit bigger than you are at 14.
 
 Leah: the one I caught was about my
                                  size.
 
 Russ: yeah?
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: wow.
 
 Leah: weighed a lot more than I did.
 
 Russ: okay well hey, that’s a good
                                  little idea of the Tenuvial family
                                  there and some of its history.
 
 Leah: we are a waterborne race.
 
 Russ: right, I can relate to that
                                  being my sign as we call it down here
                                  is a water sign.
 
 Leah: hmmm.
 
 Russ: I think Karra has explained it
                                  to me as you have a similar kind of
                                  astrological signs on Sirius.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: but mine is the fish.
 
 Leah: the fish, what fish?
 
 Russ: Pisces, just fish in particular,
                                  they….
 
 Leah: oh.
 
 Russ: don’t say what kind of fish.
 
 Leah: my sign is the deep fish……
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Leah: it goes deep.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: oh neat.
 
 Leah: uh-huh. Hmm, that’s in the
                                  middle part of the winter.
 
 Russ: good, maybe you can explain this
                                  a little bit about the signs because
                                  no one’s ever gone into the signs part
                                  at all.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: if you can give me a little
                                  quick thing about your deep fish, how
                                  does that relate to you as a person?
                                  Does that mean you have deep thoughts?
 
 Leah: deep thoughts, the fish is a
                                  loner fish…..
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Leah: it doesn’t say much, it goes
                                  deep in the water but it thinks deep
                                  and the other fish because it goes so
                                  deep and can move so fast are scared
                                  of it.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Leah: there’s the horak, trying to
                                  think of what that would be. It’s a
                                  animal with a short nose….
 
 Russ: like a pig?
 
 Leah: describe what a pig is.
 
 Russ: a pig is a quadrupedal, furless,
                                  hairless……well partially haired animal
                                  that we use for a food source down
                                  here.
 
 Leah: that could be anything.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Leah: a little more detail please.
 
 Russ: it’s fat, has a short, curly
                                  tail, short, fat little nose that's
                                  squared off, just the nostrils right
                                  there in front…..
 
 Leah: and goes (makes a snorting
                                  sound).
 
 Russ: right that’s it, yeah.
 
 Leah: yeah, that’s a horak.
 
 Russ: oh okay, got it.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Leah: they’re…..on Sirius they’re not
                                  so chubby, they move very, very fast.
 
 Russ: oh, these don't.
 
 Leah: they are quite smart. The horak
                                  is the action animal.
 
 Russ: oh, okay.
 
 Leah: that’s Huna’s animal.
 
 Russ: is it now?
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Leah: but she was born on the point of
                                  the changeover with the runner animal.
 
 Russ: oh as we would call on the cusp.
 
 Leah: cusp?
 
 Russ: yeah that would be the
                                  changeover between the two signs.
 
 Leah: uh-huh, ahh. She was born right
                                  at the point of the changeover.
 
 Russ: oh okay.
 
 Leah: yeah oh she is part of horak and
                                  part of the runner.
 
 Russ: okay, I understand.
 
 Leah: uh-huh, the runner is the
                                  breeding animal.
 
 (Russ starts laughing)
 
 Leah: uh-huh, it’s the one with the
                                  ears and the whiskers.
 
 Russ: ahhh okay.
 
 Leah: so she has the……
 
 Russ: the bunny.
 
 Leah: yes.
 
 (Russ laughs again)
 
 Leah: she has the strength and stamina
                                  of the horak and then the speed and
                                  agility of the runner.
 
 Russ: ahh and you have the deep fish.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: it seems apt and quite well-put
                                  just as with our signs are.
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: excellent thank you, that’s a
                                  very enjoyable dissertation on your
                                  part.
 
 Leah: any questions?
 
 Russ: no you’ve covered it all thank
                                  you Leah, very informative.
 
 Leah: okay.
 
 Russ: you’re not leaving yet, you
                                  still have another while to go?
 
 Leah: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: oh good.
 
 Leah: I got my……..my main exams are
                                  when.......been around your sun twice,
                                  no once.
 
 Russ: oh one more month?
 
 Leah: no, when Mars has been around
                                  one more time to back to where it is
                                  now.
 
 Russ: oh okay, another year.....and
                                  some I'm told.
 
 Leah: okay, I’ll catch you later.
 
 Russ: bye love.
 
 
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