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                 (Tia remembers the meta-concert she
                          had been in once and tells us about the two
                          that Kiri had been in, one with hundreds of
                          people. In the meta-concert Tia had
                          participated in, she was in the point farthest
                          from the center and the reason why is
                          important.)
 
 
 John:
                                            isn’t one of your
                                            heavies…..excuse
                                            me…..meta-concert?
 
 Tia: not really no.
 
 John: don’t you have a
                                            really good handle on that
                                            and have some good insights?
 
 Tia: no, unfortunately not
                                            now.
 
 Russ: Kiri’s much better.
 
 Tia: yeah Kiri’s much
                                            better, she’s been in some
                                            really big, massive
                                            meta-concerts of I think
                                            three or 400 individuals in
                                            one meta-concert.
 
 Skip: ouch.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 John: I think you’re being
                                            shy and.....
 
 Tia: no seriously,
                                            seriously, I’m not that
                                            heavy into meta-concerts.
                                            I’ve only ever participated
                                            in two and I was way down in
                                            the secondary list, I was
                                            like third tier secondary.
 
 John: and how many people
                                            participated in that?
 
 Tia: I think it was like 25
                                            or 30. Third tier was the
                                            lowest level you could get
                                            and you get people that are
                                            totally unfamiliar with the
                                            field that they’re working
                                            in. For example if it’s a
                                            manifesting meta-concert
                                            like you guys were working
                                            on and you have somebody
                                            like me that’s into PK, you
                                            put me down in the
                                            secondaries or in the second
                                            or third tier of the
                                            secondaries because all's I
                                            can do is supply energy, I
                                            can't manifest and it’s a
                                            not manifesting energy which
                                            gets changed by I
                                            believe…..no I’m wrong,
                                            nevermind.
 
 John: okay yeah.
 
 
 
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