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                 (We get an opinion
                      from Omal on Sarah's outlook on life
                        before he explains how and why most abductions
                        happen. We also discuss what happens during
                        them, who is doing them and how people can be
                        tricked into accepting the consequences happily.)
 
 
 Omal:
                                                  greetings and
                                                  felicitations.
                                                  Greetings Russ,
                                                  greetings Karen.
 
 Karen: greetings.
 
 Russ: greetings Omal.
 
 Omal: okay, let's get
                                                  down to answering your
                                                  questions concerning
                                                  this matter that you
                                                  wish addressed.
 
 Russ: the Zeta's yeah.
 
 Omal: uh-huh. First of
                                                  all I would like to
                                                  say that I think the
                                                  letter from Sarah is
                                                  self-explanatory and
                                                  dovetails nicely with
                                                  this upcoming subject
                                                  and topic of
                                                  discussion.
 
 Russ: oh I agree
                                                  definitely. It's all
                                                  going under the same
                                                  updates.
 
 Omal: correct. It
                                                  seems that she holds
                                                  no malice towards
                                                  them.
 
 Russ: no, she sees it
                                                  from a higher
                                                  perspective of being
                                                  part of the path that
                                                  she's chosen.
 
 Omal: uh-huh, I see it
                                                  that she has had a
                                                  good influence.
 
 Russ: uh-huh. I mean
                                                  there's people down
                                                  here on earth who go
                                                  through similar
                                                  things, auto accidents
                                                  that paralyze them
                                                  permanently, shorten
                                                  their lives......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: or whatever or
                                                  make them a living
                                                  hell.
 
 Karen: and the other
                                                  ones they go through
                                                  more or less the same
                                                  thing, you can't
                                                  figure out where it's
                                                  coming from and people
                                                  are calling them nuts.
 
 Russ: and they don't
                                                  get half as much
                                                  insight and growth as
                                                  she got.
 
 Omal: no she had as
                                                  she put it, a
                                                  wonderful opportunity
                                                  to learn and learn she
                                                  has.
 
 Russ: agreed.
 
 Omal: from what I've
                                                  heard, she is
                                                  developing into a
                                                  sixth dimensional
                                                  young lady. There is
                                                  nothing that we can do
                                                  for her. We can't
                                                  rejuvenate her as much
                                                  as we would like to.
                                                  We can't tamper with
                                                  her genetic material
                                                  because as she said,
                                                  there is so little of
                                                  her left in the
                                                  genetic essence. It
                                                  has given hours or
                                                  rather should I say
                                                  months of aggravation
                                                  to Kornas who has
                                                  tried to puzzle over
                                                  this but let us
                                                  address your
                                                  questions.
 
 Russ: okay. Alright I
                                                  assume you got a
                                                  report on last night's
                                                  Zeta Reticuli
                                                  revelations.
 
 Omal: yes we did.
 
 Russ: okay, so we're
                                                  going to deal with
                                                  that at the present.
                                                  Now, I'm going to
                                                  start from........it's
                                                  one through 20 pages
                                                  but I've got some
                                                  parts highlighted here
                                                  I just want to go over
                                                  with you real quickly.
 
 Omal: okay let us
                                                  proceed. It would be
                                                  difficult to answer
                                                  all the questions if
                                                  you were ask from that
                                                  that you have in your
                                                  mind so we will take
                                                  the ones that you
                                                  select that you feel
                                                  are important.
 
 Russ: alright. Okay,
                                                  "the Zeta's have been
                                                  continuing with
                                                  projects by our own
                                                  allowance. They've
                                                  made some discoveries,
                                                  they're learning, they
                                                  are growing and part
                                                  of their consciousness
                                                  wants to just share
                                                  the discoveries with
                                                  the people being
                                                  channeled to." And the
                                                  question I've got is,
                                                  supposedly this
                                                  allowance that we give
                                                  them is all
                                                  subconscious to let
                                                  them in to tamper with
                                                  our bodies and work
                                                  their experiments so
                                                  they can learn. What
                                                  of this?
 
 Omal: it is trickery
                                                  and the way it is done
                                                  is very cleverly. Let
                                                  me put it this way to
                                                  you. Russ, would you
                                                  like to help us
                                                  develop a higher
                                                  evolutionary mind on
                                                  your planet?
 
 Russ: of course.
 
 Omal: would you let us
                                                  do it our way so that
                                                  you can benefit in
                                                  such a way that your
                                                  race will grow at a
                                                  rapid accelerated rate
                                                  and have all the
                                                  lessons that are
                                                  necessary to learn in
                                                  that accelerated time?
 
 Russ: no, I'd rather
                                                  learn on our own pace
                                                  actually but with
                                                  insight from yourself
                                                  is what I would but
                                                  knowing where this
                                                  question is leading,
                                                  yeah I would say yes.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: not
                                                  knowing......if I
                                                  didn't know where it
                                                  was leading to.
 
 Omal: would you let us
                                                  use the material from
                                                  you that would be able
                                                  to create a group of
                                                  individuals that would
                                                  be able to watch over
                                                  and protect you?
 
 Russ: well that's a
                                                  tough one, because you
                                                  already have.
 
 (The visits Mark and I
                                                  had made to Kornas for
                                                  genetic samples)
 
 Omal: yes but that has
                                                  been with full
                                                  knowledge.
 
 Russ: absolutely,
                                                  right. So, without
                                                  full knowledge, I'd
                                                  have to have my
                                                  reservations
                                                  personally........consciously.
 
 Omal: Karen, would you
                                                  let us use your
                                                  genetic material,
                                                  whatever is necessary,
                                                  for us to create a
                                                  race of guardians to
                                                  protect you from
                                                  hostile aliens?
 
 Karen: I don't know,
                                                  well knowing who you
                                                  guys are yeah, but if
                                                  I didn't know, no. I
                                                  don't think I'd want
                                                  any parts of my body
                                                  missing, I've already
                                                  got parts of my body
                                                  missing.
 
 Omal: oh, we would not
                                                  take anything that
                                                  would be needed, we
                                                  would only use
                                                  material that you have
                                                  to spare.
 
 Russ: like ovum.
 
 Karen: oh, reproducing
                                                  a mess of Karen's,
                                                  it's like no I don't
                                                  think......I don't
                                                  know.
 
 Omal: no, Russ spoiled
                                                  that actually.
 
 Karen: I don't know if
                                                  I.........well he's
                                                  got a couple kids up
                                                  there.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Karen: and I've got
                                                  mine down here and I
                                                  know of three and no,
                                                  I don't think I'd want
                                                  a whole mess of them I
                                                  didn't know about
                                                  floating around no.
 
 Omal: no but Russ
                                                  spoiled the question.
                                                  Russ, there was a
                                                  punishment for that.
 
 Karen: should I bite
                                                  him?
 
 Omal: after the
                                                  channeling session, 20
                                                  press ups please.
 
 Russ: my shoulder's
                                                  really killing me
                                                  Omal.
 
 Omal: it is the lesson
                                                  and thank you for
                                                  spoiling my avenue
                                                  that I was exploring
                                                  but you see where I
                                                  was going?
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Omal: that the way
                                                  that those were
                                                  worded, you
                                                  voluntarily,
                                                  consciously gave your
                                                  consent up until the
                                                  last question.
 
 Karen: yeah.
 
 Omal: if Russ hadn't
                                                  of said borrowing
                                                  ovum's or using
                                                  ovum's, would you have
                                                  consented?
 
 Karen: no, no because
                                                  I mean if you guys are
                                                  going to create
                                                  guardians to watch
                                                  over me, you should
                                                  have the guardians
                                                  there already.
 
 Omal: true, true but
                                                  you see what is
                                                  happening, the answer
                                                  most people would give
                                                  is yes to protect your
                                                  race. And I did not
                                                  tell you everything, I
                                                  led you in an avenue
                                                  that is easy for you
                                                  to fall into that
                                                  saying yes, yes, yes,
                                                  I did not tell you
                                                  what we intended to do
                                                  with those materials.
                                                  I did not tell you how
                                                  we wished to proceed,
                                                  I just asked you would
                                                  it be possible, very
                                                  nicely as well I might
                                                  add but I asked the
                                                  questions in such a
                                                  way that I was using
                                                  half-lies,
                                                  half-truths.
 
 Karen: lying by
                                                  omission.
 
 Omal: correct. So you
                                                  see where their
                                                  questions head and how
                                                  they manipulate. I was
                                                  not being particularly
                                                  clever in the way that
                                                  I was wording them. I
                                                  could word it totally
                                                  different and sucker
                                                  you right in, it is
                                                  easy to do.
 
 Karen: I think any any
                                                  being could do that, I
                                                  mean you can actually
                                                  come through and just
                                                  say that, "hey we're a
                                                  dying planet because
                                                  the women don't have
                                                  any ovum, do you have
                                                  any to spare?"
 
 Omal: exactly.
 
 Karen: and any person
                                                  with kids would say,
                                                  "sure, no problem."
 
 Omal: uh-huh exactly.
                                                  So there are different
                                                  ways of doing it and
                                                  this is what they've
                                                  done. Next question
                                                  please.
 
 Russ: okay, "there's
                                                  apparently various
                                                  groups of Zeta's
                                                  spread out between
                                                  three different
                                                  categories. Straight
                                                  Zeta's which is they
                                                  consciously exist
                                                  within the outer
                                                  perimeters of fourth
                                                  density reality
                                                  therefore they are
                                                  just barely physical,
                                                  mostly plasmic in
                                                  nature. Then there is
                                                  the altered Zeta's
                                                  which would be a
                                                  straight Zeta altered
                                                  physically or in their
                                                  consciousness to allow
                                                  them to interact with
                                                  you on a physical
                                                  plane or a type of
                                                  quasi-physical reality
                                                  one moment, one
                                                  moment. Category three
                                                  would be a hybrid,
                                                  spans many different
                                                  offshoots. The idea
                                                  you call negatively
                                                  oriented groups are
                                                  not necessarily placed
                                                  within these
                                                  categories we've
                                                  outlined though they
                                                  can be for the purpose
                                                  of illustration." Now
                                                  the question is, with
                                                  the first two groups,
                                                  they can work with the
                                                  person in their dream
                                                  state. Does this also
                                                  includes abductions?
 
 Omal: yes, you can
                                                  take somebody
                                                  physically in their
                                                  dream state. For
                                                  example, Mark, Kiri
                                                  could quite easily
                                                  talk to somebody and
                                                  have them stand up and
                                                  follow them by using
                                                  coercion when they're
                                                  asleep, that is very
                                                  easy to do.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Omal: you wake them up
                                                  to a state where
                                                  they're still asleep
                                                  but their mind is now
                                                  conscious and easy to
                                                  manipulate. Kiri is
                                                  saying that is one of
                                                  the things that is
                                                  totally forbidden to
                                                  do.
 
 Russ: okay. Now with
                                                  that same sentence, it
                                                  makes the subject that
                                                  there are good Zeta's
                                                  and of course negative
                                                  Zeta's.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: the good Zeta's
                                                  are for example the 30
                                                  individuals sitting in
                                                  a ship within the
                                                  atmosphere of the
                                                  planet of the people
                                                  that are being
                                                  channeled to here.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: is there good
                                                  Zeta's?
 
 Omal: yes there are
                                                  just as there are good
                                                  humans and bad humans.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Omal: they suffer from
                                                  the problem of they
                                                  cannot differentiate
                                                  between what is
                                                  positive and negative
                                                  in how they deal with
                                                  people. They assume
                                                  like most intelligent
                                                  races that a lower
                                                  intelligence will see
                                                  it from their point of
                                                  view. Whether their
                                                  point of view is
                                                  flawed or not is
                                                  besides the point,
                                                  their intentions are
                                                  as they see them good.
                                                  The fact they do not
                                                  give you full
                                                  information and access
                                                  to that information
                                                  seems to be irrelevant
                                                  for your own good from
                                                  their point of view.
 
 Russ: hmm, okay. All
                                                  right, are you on a
                                                  time schedule that's
                                                  real tight tonight?
 
 Omal: I am a little.
 
 Russ: all right, I'll
                                                  try to rush through
                                                  the worst of this
                                                  then. Okay.......
 
 Omal: oops.... too
                                                  slow.
 
 Russ: one of the
                                                  questions asked was if
                                                  humanoids were to take
                                                  up travel in outer
                                                  space, what changes
                                                  would happen to their
                                                  bodies and the answer
                                                  was, "the fact that
                                                  there would be a
                                                  change in our
                                                  connection to the time
                                                  continuum which would
                                                  allow our DNA
                                                  structure to unlock
                                                  from the template of
                                                  the planet Earth time
                                                  continuum to allow
                                                  more freedom within
                                                  the consciousness to
                                                  allow for other types
                                                  of travel and
                                                  expansion once you
                                                  leave your solar
                                                  system." Now I don't
                                                  remember that ever
                                                  having to happen
                                                  but...
 
 Omal: no, no, it
                                                  doesn't quite work
                                                  like that. They are
                                                  correct and they are
                                                  lying, well not lying,
                                                  they are tinting the
                                                  truth. What happens
                                                  when individuals leave
                                                  a planet is the faster
                                                  that they approach the
                                                  speed of light, time
                                                  slows down externally
                                                  for them relative to
                                                  how fast they are
                                                  traveling. Let us say
                                                  they are traveling at
                                                  half-light speed which
                                                  would make it about
                                                  eight years to get to
                                                  your neighboring star.
                                                  Okay, light travels at
                                                  from there four years
                                                  approximately to your
                                                  planet. Traveling at
                                                  half-light speed means
                                                  that it would take you
                                                  relatively inside the
                                                  ship only eight years
                                                  to get there however
                                                  outside a serious
                                                  amount of time would
                                                  have elapsed. Maybe
                                                  50  to a 100
                                                  years because you have
                                                  approached the half
                                                  the speed of light
                                                  which means that time
                                                  would speed up
                                                  externally whereas
                                                  internally it would
                                                  slow down but you
                                                  would not notice the
                                                  change that it has
                                                  slowed down. Let us
                                                  say you travel faster
                                                  than the speed of
                                                  light. Now, time
                                                  externally would
                                                  really accelerate. The
                                                  fact that you would
                                                  arrive on the planet
                                                  let us say at twice
                                                  the speed of light
                                                  means that only two
                                                  years have elapsed for
                                                  you but in actual
                                                  fact, four years has
                                                  elapsed externally on
                                                  your home planet. I
                                                  know there is a
                                                  difference in the
                                                  figures here. This is
                                                  because you would be
                                                  seeing things four
                                                  years in the past if
                                                  you were to look back.
                                                  You take the four
                                                  years and multiply it
                                                  by the speed so that
                                                  would be 12 years. 12
                                                  years into your future
                                                  on a planet orbiting
                                                  Alpha Centauri, means
                                                  that you would be
                                                  looking back 12 years
                                                  to return back to your
                                                  point of origin. You
                                                  would be the 12 years
                                                  into the future plus
                                                  the return time which
                                                  would make it 24 but
                                                  traveling at half the
                                                  speed of light, that
                                                  would be doubled.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Omal: the faster you
                                                  travel, the less time
                                                  would have been
                                                  elapsed.
 
 Russ: thank you.
                                                  Alright, another
                                                  question that I've
                                                  heard before and this
                                                  concerns everything
                                                  that we're talking
                                                  about so far, what is
                                                  the purpose and
                                                  mission of the Zeta
                                                  contact? "And the idea
                                                  they would like to
                                                  stress most is they
                                                  are teaching us about
                                                  fear. That they are in
                                                  a sense representing
                                                  to us the idea of
                                                  unity or as we
                                                  represent to them, the
                                                  idea of individuality
                                                  and neither of us are
                                                  victims of the other,
                                                  we are all
                                                  co-creator's in what
                                                  is going on." Now in
                                                  that sense, it makes
                                                  it sound as though our
                                                  individuality is a
                                                  negative.
 
 Omal: it is not.
 
 Russ: as opposed to
                                                  their Borg-like
                                                  mentality.
 
 Omal: it is not. Both
                                                  are not. Does not a
                                                  football team function
                                                  as one?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: but yet the
                                                  individuals on that
                                                  team make it function
                                                  as one. Individual
                                                  players, let us select
                                                  somebody like Boswell
                                                  become heroes but
                                                  without him, the team
                                                  would not function as
                                                  well but without him,
                                                  the team would
                                                  continue and does
                                                  continue functioning.
                                                  Let us take another
                                                  individual, let us
                                                  take Joe Montana. When
                                                  he was with the 49ers,
                                                  the team functioned
                                                  wonderfully. He left
                                                  the team and went to
                                                  the Kansas City team.
                                                  What happened the
                                                  49ers?
 
 Karen: they dropped
                                                  but they survived.
 
 Russ: yeah, they did
                                                  great last season,
                                                  better than Kansas
                                                  City.
 
 Omal: correct. So, the
                                                  individual does not
                                                  make a team, he is a
                                                  team player. Without
                                                  him the team will
                                                  carry on functioning,
                                                  not as well until it
                                                  recovers, but it will
                                                  continue functioning.
                                                  So to say that acting
                                                  in a group-like
                                                  consciousness is good
                                                  is wrong but it is
                                                  also right. It depends
                                                  on how the group
                                                  interacts. Whether or
                                                  not it becomes a unit
                                                  as one or reacts as a
                                                  group of individuals
                                                  acting as one,
                                                  individual choice
                                                  could be good and bad.
                                                  An individual that
                                                  makes a bad call but
                                                  if it is carried out
                                                  well, may in actual
                                                  fact turn out to be
                                                  positive so both
                                                  behaviors are very
                                                  necessary. The
                                                  development of pure
                                                  one consciousness is a
                                                  negative in that you
                                                  have no free will to
                                                  do as you wish and
                                                  your interaction is no
                                                  longer valid in how
                                                  the group reacts. You
                                                  react as the group
                                                  wishes you to to a
                                                  certain situation.
                                                  Certainly it has more
                                                  different options to
                                                  explore but it has to
                                                  be achieved quickly so
                                                  therefore one
                                                  individual will
                                                  oversee another
                                                  individual in the
                                                  consciousness but
                                                  individuality on its
                                                  own can be very
                                                  dangerous if it is not
                                                  used correctly in a
                                                  group environment. A
                                                  group of individuals
                                                  that work individually
                                                  may end up hurting
                                                  each other. It is
                                                  teamwork with
                                                  individual ways of
                                                  behavior that seem to
                                                  work best.
 
 Russ: okay. Now this
                                                  deals with the
                                                  abductions and the
                                                  fact that the Zeta
                                                  Reticuli have bred out
                                                  of themselves that
                                                  which we call emotion
                                                  and the purpose of the
                                                  abductions is that
                                                  they can insert probes
                                                  and then retract them
                                                  at later times which
                                                  have stored up
                                                  neurochemical
                                                  secretions that they
                                                  figure they can put
                                                  into themselves to
                                                  re-bring in emotions
                                                  into their race again.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: now this is an
                                                  act that we attribute
                                                  to the negative Zeta's
                                                  as well as apparently
                                                  the positives who
                                                  perfectly say, "let's
                                                  go along with this."
 
 Omal: okay, extracting
                                                  information can be
                                                  useful but I refer you
                                                  to the answer I gave
                                                  right at the start.
                                                  That is the best way
                                                  to explain it.
 
 Russ: okay. Karen, do
                                                  you have any questions
                                                  before I go on? I've
                                                  taken up all of them.
 
 Karen: I don't think
                                                  you've gotten to the
                                                  one that I wanted to
                                                  ask.
 
 Russ: oh........I have
                                                  one on sexual
                                                  behavior.
 
 Karen: that's not the
                                                  one I wanted to ask
                                                  (chuckles).
 
 Russ: okay, now one of
                                                  the things that came
                                                  up here we had a lot
                                                  of problems with was,
                                                  "for as for the amount
                                                  of interaction we will
                                                  have with you
                                                  sexually, that will be
                                                  up to agreements
                                                  between you as an
                                                  individual and us as a
                                                  group." So again we
                                                  come to as in your
                                                  first explanation that
                                                  they agree to the
                                                  sexual interactions
                                                  but I cannot see the
                                                  purpose of them
                                                  because later on we
                                                  see that they are
                                                  using them to breed a
                                                  hybrid race that don't
                                                  actually reach
                                                  maturity, they die off
                                                  prior to that and they
                                                  cannot figure out why.
 
 Omal: it is obvious
                                                  and very easy to
                                                  understand why these
                                                  offspring, which is a
                                                  bad term, they might
                                                  as well say lab
                                                  animals die off. It is
                                                  because they use them
                                                  in such a way that
                                                  their life expectancy
                                                  is basically drained
                                                  from them. The
                                                  experiments that they
                                                  run on them drain out
                                                  their existence. If
                                                  you insert needles and
                                                  extract hormones and
                                                  chemicals and blood
                                                  and tissue and
                                                  secretions, you're
                                                  draining the lifeform.
                                                  A certain amount can
                                                  be withstood but
                                                  continuous tapping in
                                                  and draining drains
                                                  the life flow and the
                                                  life energy. It is
                                                  hard to understand
                                                  that these Zeta's do
                                                  not understand that by
                                                  doing this, they
                                                  themselves are causing
                                                  the problem that they
                                                  can't understand.
 
 Russ: hmm, okay. One
                                                  part that brought up
                                                  about this was the
                                                  fact that because
                                                  there was no love that
                                                  was interacted between
                                                  the Zeta's and the
                                                  children and that the
                                                  only love that came
                                                  was from adults that
                                                  they had abducted and
                                                  brought to the ship to
                                                  give the children
                                                  love.
 
 Omal: uh-huh, that is
                                                  quite correct but by
                                                  abducting the
                                                  individuals even
                                                  though they may put on
                                                  a front of being happy
                                                  and cheerful, they are
                                                  not. The children
                                                  sense this and
                                                  therefore do not
                                                  actually take the
                                                  pseudo-love that is
                                                  being given. Even
                                                  though as was said
                                                  last night, some love
                                                  is better than no
                                                  love, the children,
                                                  because of their
                                                  environment, do not
                                                  trust these
                                                  individuals. It is
                                                  necessary for the
                                                  children to bond with
                                                  individuals. For
                                                  example, Karen's
                                                  children, they have
                                                  grown well and are
                                                  happy because they
                                                  have bonded with
                                                  individuals on an
                                                  individual one-on-one
                                                  basis. If for example
                                                  let us take
                                                  Anna-Marie, if Karen,
                                                  Karen's mother, the
                                                  person that was the
                                                  father were all linked
                                                  together as a group
                                                  consciousness, then
                                                  Anna-Marie would have
                                                  been very confused in
                                                  the fact of was she
                                                  talking to her
                                                  grandmother, her
                                                  mother or her father?
                                                  So therefore a
                                                  distrust would
                                                  develop. Even though
                                                  it may be Karen she is
                                                  facing or Karen's
                                                  mother or her father,
                                                  she would not be sure
                                                  if she was dealing
                                                  with her father, or
                                                  Karen or her
                                                  grandmother.
 
 Russ: hmm, well on the
                                                  same note, one of the
                                                  people are asking
                                                  questions asked the
                                                  question that she
                                                  remembered seeing a
                                                  six-year-old child on
                                                  the ship and she was
                                                  with two people. She
                                                  had scars on her face
                                                  and she bent down to
                                                  acknowledge her, it
                                                  was very important for
                                                  her to love that
                                                  child. They said that
                                                  she had been sick and
                                                  I said, "I didn't care
                                                  and wanted to kiss
                                                  her". And she kissed
                                                  all the scars on her
                                                  face and I felt a love
                                                  for her and then she
                                                  asked if that was her
                                                  child. And the answer
                                                  was that, "your
                                                  emotion will answer
                                                  the question for you,
                                                  trust those emotions."
                                                  And then she says
                                                  that, "if you can send
                                                  her love I would be
                                                  grateful" and they
                                                  say, "you will have an
                                                  option to see her
                                                  again."
 
 Omal: again, I refer
                                                  you to the question
                                                  that was just stated
                                                  or the answer I just
                                                  said. To that I would
                                                  like to add the fact
                                                  that they were using
                                                  the child in a
                                                  carefully orchestrated
                                                  situation as a bait to
                                                  get this person back
                                                  up so that she could
                                                  be used and
                                                  manipulated again.
                                                  Whether the child is
                                                  hers or not is
                                                  irrelevant, the fact
                                                  that it could be her
                                                  child makes it even
                                                  more tricky and
                                                  devious the way that
                                                  they're behaving.
                                                  They're using the
                                                  carrot method to get a
                                                  response and to get
                                                  material. The natural
                                                  instinct of mothers
                                                  and fathers to protect
                                                  things that they
                                                  perceive as their
                                                  offspring is a very
                                                  strong and powerful
                                                  tool that will make
                                                  them do very strange
                                                  things even to the
                                                  point of laying down
                                                  their own lives for
                                                  their offspring. It is
                                                  not just a human
                                                  emotion. If you were
                                                  to threaten the
                                                  feline's kittens
                                                  upstairs, she would
                                                  fight to the death to
                                                  protect them.
 
 Russ: hmm, scary. Well
                                                  one of my last
                                                  questions then is they
                                                  claim to be living
                                                  upon the fourth and
                                                  fifth dimensions,
                                                  nothing about the
                                                  sixth.
 
 Omal: it is impossible
                                                  to live in time. It is
                                                  very hard to live in
                                                  the fifth dimension.
                                                  It can be done if you
                                                  use energy fields to
                                                  manipulate and
                                                  maintain a safe
                                                  environment, a stable
                                                  environment but
                                                  without those aides it
                                                  is impossible. We live
                                                  in the fifth dimension
                                                  in a sixth dimensional
                                                  workspace, in essence
                                                  we live in the fifth
                                                  dimension. We use
                                                  gravitational energy
                                                  to create a stable
                                                  environment that does
                                                  not give us the
                                                  serious headaches that
                                                  you would expect in a
                                                  less technologically
                                                  evolved civilization.
                                                  As has been stated in
                                                  the past, you could
                                                  put many cases into a
                                                  matchbox, many cases
                                                  of wine......
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: but they may all
                                                  explode out as the
                                                  fifth dimensional
                                                  properties change
                                                  within the matchbox.
 
 Russ: okay. Well
                                                  that's all the
                                                  questions on that
                                                  matter, if there's
                                                  anything else you
                                                  would like to add
                                                  though, I'd be happy
                                                  to add it on to the
                                                  webpage.
 
 Omal: yes, let us
                                                  answer Karen's
                                                  question.
 
 Russ: all right.
 
 Karen: how do you know
                                                  it wasn't asked? It
                                                  wasn't, okay fine, I
                                                  just thought I'd ask.
 
 Omal: it was
                                                  self-evident that it
                                                  was not.
 
 Karen: well they said
                                                  if they can only take
                                                  you if you volunteer
                                                  yourself.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Karen: now that means
                                                  to say that these
                                                  abductions are
                                                  voluntary or are they
                                                  not voluntary?
 
 Omal: I refer you to
                                                  the answer I gave at
                                                  the start.
 
 Karen: well, it's
                                                  trickery.
 
 Omal: exactly.
 
 Karen: but they're
                                                  still saying that
                                                  every time they probe
                                                  you and stuff like
                                                  that they have
                                                  been.......they ask
                                                  your permission first
                                                  regardless of the
                                                  questions they give
                                                  you.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Karen: but still, is
                                                  it voluntary? Are they
                                                  really taking these
                                                  people voluntary or
                                                  are these people just
                                                  being taken period?
 
 Omal: these people
                                                  have been tricked into
                                                  giving voluntary
                                                  consent.
 
 
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