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                 (Omal focuses on
                        the Zeta Reticuli as we discuss their working
                        with humans in underground bases, the
                        theoretical Men in Black contacting abductees
                        and implants that also becomes a theoretical
                        guessing game.)
 
 
 Russ:
                                                  all right, we got a
                                                  lot to work to do.
 
 Omal: yes, let us
                                                  proceed.
 
 Russ: okay, a couple
                                                  different routes we’re
                                                  going tonight.
                                                  Unfortunately, I’ve
                                                  got a lot of gray area
                                                  stuff that hopefully
                                                  won’t go into the gray
                                                  area……
 
 Omal: okay.
 
 Russ: but it’s on that
                                                  cutting-edge kind of
                                                  thing that I'll go on
                                                  to later.
 
 Omal: tell you what,
                                                  let’s get them out of
                                                  the way first.
 
 Russ: out of the way
                                                  first? All right, fair
                                                  enough, let’s go that
                                                  route.
 
 Omal: so that we do
                                                  not waste time.
 
 Russ: okay, we have
                                                  currently the…..what’s
                                                  this doing here……..we
                                                  have currently a
                                                  report from a Mr. Bill
                                                  Cooper on secret
                                                  government and Zeta
                                                  Reticuli......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: or I assume it’s
                                                  the Zeta Reticuli,
                                                  they're the only ones
                                                  working with it and
                                                  this is working with
                                                  the Majestic 12.
 
 Omal: ahh yes?
 
 Russ: okay, now as I
                                                  remember there was a
                                                  MJ12 report that did
                                                  came out I’ve read a
                                                  couple times…..
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and apparently
                                                  that was a bogus
                                                  report put out as a
                                                  misinformation
                                                  campaign.
 
 Omal: that's correct.
 
 Russ: this is
                                                  currently according to
                                                  this, a corrected
                                                  report.
 
 Omal: okay.
 
 Russ: in this, we’re
                                                  working on various
                                                  projects currently
                                                  going on within the
                                                  government and the
                                                  various control names
                                                  for them which are
                                                  fairly interesting.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: the various
                                                  projects within the
                                                  government of course
                                                  are dealing with
                                                  capturing UFOs….
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: reverse
                                                  engineering,
                                                  communication with
                                                  UFOs and working on of
                                                  course exchange of
                                                  information.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: through this, we
                                                  are getting…..I mean
                                                  it’s a long….....I
                                                  wouldn’t even bother
                                                  trying to work through
                                                  it, you already
                                                  probably already know
                                                  it more than I do.
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: but going
                                                  through here, it’s an
                                                  interesting fact that
                                                  that I’m looking down
                                                  and showing a main
                                                  base for a alien
                                                  species happening down
                                                  in New Mexico.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: an underground
                                                  base and there’s a
                                                  couple underground
                                                  bases.......a couple
                                                  other bases within the
                                                  area of Area 51.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: okay? Now from
                                                  these bases, it’s
                                                  showing that they’re
                                                  basically setting up
                                                  shop or they’ve set up
                                                  shop and our
                                                  government is all set
                                                  to, in case anything
                                                  happens, take it
                                                  completely out of
                                                  existence.
 
 Omal: yes, that would
                                                  be appropriate.
 
 Russ: but not knowing
                                                  the consequences of
                                                  doing so, I’m sure
                                                  they're a little more
                                                  paranoid about even
                                                  thinking about such a
                                                  thing but they are
                                                  preparing for that
                                                  eventuality and I’m
                                                  sure the aliens know
                                                  that they are
                                                  preparing for this
                                                  eventuality.
 
 Omal: then that aliens
                                                  have disabled that
                                                  eventuality.
 
 Russ: I wouldn’t doubt
                                                  that at all, I would
                                                  if I were on their
                                                  point. But what’s
                                                  interesting is they
                                                  describe the aliens
                                                  that they’ve
                                                  communicated with as
                                                  malevolent.
 
 Omal: uh-huh,
                                                  malevolent?
 
 Russ: malevolent which
                                                  means hostile.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and the
                                                  description they give
                                                  are definitely Zeta
                                                  Reticuli. 3 to 5 feet
                                                  in height, erect,
                                                  standing biped, long
                                                  thin legs, small
                                                  build, our typical
                                                  Zeta. Now as I
                                                  remember, Zeta’s in
                                                  what we’ve worked with
                                                  them before, weren’t
                                                  exactly malevolent,
                                                  hostile, but I think
                                                  in the environment
                                                  that they’re working
                                                  with us that could
                                                  very definitely
                                                  happen.
 
 Omal: like anything,
                                                  there are two sides to
                                                  every coin or three
                                                  sides depending on how
                                                  you look at it.
 
 Russ: true.
 
 Omal: put in the right
                                                  situation even the
                                                  most placid beings
                                                  will assume an
                                                  aggressive stance to a
                                                  lesser or greater
                                                  extent.
 
 Russ: hmm okay, they
                                                  also tend to lie…..a
                                                  lot.
 
 Omal: what is your
                                                  definition of lie?
 
 Russ: saying something
                                                  that is definitely not
                                                  true.
 
 Omal: define not true.
 
 Russ: for example, how
                                                  they say that……they
                                                  claim, "man is a
                                                  hybrid creature by
                                                  them and they claim
                                                  that all religion was
                                                  created by them to
                                                  hasten their formation
                                                  of a civilized culture
                                                  and to control the
                                                  human race. They claim
                                                  that Jesus was a
                                                  product of their
                                                  efforts. The aliens
                                                  have furnished proof
                                                  of these claims and
                                                  have a device that
                                                  allows them to show
                                                  audibly and visually
                                                  any part of history
                                                  that they or we wish
                                                  to see. They claim
                                                  that O negative blood
                                                  is the proof of
                                                  hybridization and our
                                                  own science tends to
                                                  bear out that claim."
                                                  Now, that doesn’t
                                                  sound exactly from the
                                                  truth that we have
                                                  already come to
                                                  discover.
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: so I would call
                                                  that a good example of
                                                  their…..
 
 Omal: yes, yes.
 
 Russ: various
                                                  mistruths that they
                                                  are holding to or
                                                  putting out.
 
 Omal: ahh but I could
                                                  also be withholding
                                                  information.
 
 Russ: true, quite true
                                                  but again like I say,
                                                  from my personal
                                                  experience….
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: a lot of this
                                                  information does show
                                                  up as right. Now a
                                                  couple of things that
                                                  I discovered beyond
                                                  this report was the
                                                  military working in
                                                  conjunction with them
                                                  and doing the same
                                                  various experiments
                                                  that the aliens are
                                                  doing.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: now if this
                                                  doesn’t go too much
                                                  out of weirdness here
                                                  for us as far as where
                                                  it’s going, I’d like
                                                  to work on it real
                                                  quickly. Namely
                                                  working with
                                                  abductees…..
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and doing
                                                  regressive
                                                  hypnotherapy.
                                                  Abductees have seen
                                                  through their
                                                  regression both alien
                                                  underground bases
                                                  they’ve been taken to
                                                  and military bases,
                                                  human military bases
                                                  they’ve been taken to.
                                                  In both cases they
                                                  find tubes filled with
                                                  a breathable liquid
                                                  that they are either
                                                  put in or see other
                                                  humans that are in
                                                  those and also other
                                                  aliens in the case of
                                                  the military bases.
                                                  And in both cases,
                                                  they’re apparently
                                                  shown that the tubes
                                                  are for high gravity
                                                  travel so that if
                                                  you’re traveling at
                                                  some 50 G’s it won’t
                                                  crush your body by
                                                  being within this
                                                  liquid…….
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: containers I
                                                  guess.
 
 Omal: first of all I
                                                  would like to say that
                                                  yes, there are liquids
                                                  or a liquid that would
                                                  do that however, if
                                                  traveling at high
                                                  velocity and high G’s,
                                                  this is where the
                                                  theory goes and goes
                                                  wrong.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Omal: what happens if
                                                  you increase the G’s
                                                  on a fluid?
 
 Russ: ahhh, oh
                                                  compresses?
 
 Omal: compresses it.
 
 Russ: oh it does.
 
 Omal: so that would
                                                  not work.
 
 Russ: oh. Is there a
                                                  way that the
                                                  containers themselves
                                                  that hold the fluid
                                                  would make a
                                                  difference?
 
 Omal: no not really,
                                                  not unless they were
                                                  totally sealed units
                                                  that would be, without
                                                  giving too much away,
                                                  have a pressure
                                                  equalizing factor.
 
 Russ: so it is
                                                  possible?
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: okay, so I agree
                                                  that a tube full of
                                                  water wouldn’t work
                                                  but perhaps in the way
                                                  you describe it might.
 
 Omal: now also the
                                                  people doing the
                                                  regressions….
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: or the
                                                  hypno-regressions, in
                                                  a hypnotic state, an
                                                  individual is very,
                                                  very susceptible to
                                                  having words and ideas
                                                  planted within them.
 
 Russ: I agree, I know
                                                  that from a personal
                                                  experience.
 
 Omal: uh-huh. They’re
                                                  very open and
                                                  receptive so anything
                                                  that is given in a
                                                  hypnotic state should
                                                  be wary of in the
                                                  first place.
 
 Russ: grain of salt.
 
 Omal: yes, especially
                                                  if you do not have a
                                                  confirmed source or do
                                                  not witness it or
                                                  there is secondhand
                                                  recorded information.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: even secondhand
                                                  recorded information
                                                  becomes suspect
                                                  because somebody is
                                                  relaying the
                                                  information.
 
 Russ: hmm, okay.
 
 Omal: and
                                                  unintentionally, they
                                                  may put their own
                                                  interpretation or as
                                                  the phrase of the
                                                  moment is, spin.
 
 Russ: ahh, quite
                                                  correct. Okay, on the
                                                  same level that we're
                                                  working on here, it
                                                  has been shown
                                                  theoretically that
                                                  aliens who are……people
                                                  who are abducted by
                                                  aliens and then
                                                  returned are shortly
                                                  thereafter abducted by
                                                  military, Men in
                                                  Black.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and according to
                                                  this report here, the
                                                  aliens actually give a
                                                  daily report of who
                                                  they abduct so that
                                                  sort of makes sense is
                                                  that if they had a
                                                  daily report of who
                                                  they abducted, then
                                                  the military could go
                                                  in next day and work
                                                  with them at that
                                                  point.
 
 Omal: where would I
                                                  start? It is unlikely
                                                  that they would give a
                                                  daily report, I find
                                                  it hard to believe
                                                  that the special
                                                  services would
                                                  directly thereafter
                                                  visit individuals that
                                                  have been abducted
                                                  unless they were vocal
                                                  and then the special
                                                  services would want to
                                                  know what was going
                                                  on.
 
 Russ: uh-huh, so you
                                                  start telling a paper
                                                  or something like that
                                                  I guess?
 
 Omal: correct, you are
                                                  going to draw
                                                  attention to yourself.
                                                  Most abductees don’t
                                                  for the simple reason
                                                  that they are not
                                                  quite sure what
                                                  happened and either
                                                  feel ashamed or
                                                  embarrassed or do not
                                                  remember.
 
 Russ: uh-huh, or don’t
                                                  believe it.
 
 Omal: or correct,
                                                  don’t believe it.
 
 Russ: right, they
                                                  would dismiss it as
                                                  some weird dream they
                                                  had.
 
 Omal: that is correct.
 
 Russ: okay and
                                                  probably wouldn't,
                                                  until they go through
                                                  regressive therapy,
                                                  they wouldn’t realize
                                                  it was anything less
                                                  than that anyway.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: vague memories
                                                  and stuff. Now it does
                                                  show in autopsies on
                                                  Zeta’s that they have
                                                  two brains.
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: oh they don’t?
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: oh, okay, I was
                                                  going to think it
                                                  didn’t make much sense
                                                  since they're a
                                                  collective anyway.
 
 Omal: that is correct.
 
 Russ: what's the point
                                                  of having two brains,
                                                  you only need one.
 
 Omal: that is correct.
 
 Russ: but this is just
                                                  what I’m reading so
                                                  I'm kind of getting
                                                  some information from
                                                  your end. All right,
                                                  going on to
                                                  implants......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: now apparently
                                                  the implants that are
                                                  put in are used for
                                                  control and that if
                                                  the implants are
                                                  attempted to be taken
                                                  out, it kills the
                                                  host.
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: oh okay, so an
                                                  implant can be taken
                                                  out. Is it a studyable
                                                  kind of implant that
                                                  we would be able to
                                                  learn anything from?
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: oh, it’s that
                                                  foreign to us?
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: oh okay. All
                                                  right, so what would
                                                  be considered possibly
                                                  the purpose on that?
 
 Omal: I cannot
                                                  disclose that.
 
 Russ: oh, okay.
 
 Omal: not because it
                                                  is restricted
                                                  information but
                                                  because anything that
                                                  I would give away may
                                                  have repercussions
                                                  further down the road
                                                  in the debates and
                                                  discussions.
 
 Russ: oh good point
                                                  but at least we know
                                                  it can be taken out if
                                                  it is discovered.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: how easy is it
                                                  to discover it?
 
 Omal: I can’t say.
 
 Russ: oh okay, no
                                                  problem. Now another
                                                  thing they discovered
                                                  was that magnetic
                                                  fields across temporal
                                                  lobes are able to
                                                  affect the psychic
                                                  abilities of a person.
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: no. Okay, that
                                                  was apparently one of
                                                  the things abductees
                                                  were given was a
                                                  magnetic field I guess
                                                  something across the
                                                  astral lobes to
                                                  inspire astral travel
                                                  and psychic abilities.
 
 Omal: if I was to tell
                                                  you that a crystal
                                                  that I gave you had
                                                  magical powers and
                                                  could make your astral
                                                  travel better, do you
                                                  know what would
                                                  happen?
 
 Russ: what?
 
 Omal: it would make
                                                  your astral travel
                                                  better.
 
 Russ: yeah I suppose.
 
 Omal: but why?
 
 Russ: because the
                                                  brain thinks that it
                                                  would.
 
 Omal: that’s correct.
                                                  It's the placebo
                                                  effect.
 
 Russ: yeah hmm,okay.
                                                  All right, now is
                                                  there anything you can
                                                  tell me about how
                                                  closely our government
                                                  is working with the
                                                  aliens?
 
 Omal: not as closely
                                                  as people would like
                                                  to think.
 
 Russ: so this is
                                                  disinformation here in
                                                  other words.
 
 Omal: that’s correct.
 
 Russ: oh okay. Because
                                                  according to this,
                                                  there is a group of
                                                  aliens who actually do
                                                  hang out on Area 51
                                                  and do work with them
                                                  on reverse
                                                  engineering.
 
 Omal: I cannot discuss
                                                  that however your
                                                  observations may give
                                                  you a inkling on what
                                                  is going on.
 
 Russ: correct. Now
                                                  here’s a theory, it’s
                                                  not a question just a
                                                  theory that if that
                                                  were true, it would
                                                  make some sort of
                                                  sense in the fact that
                                                  the aliens, in the
                                                  hopes that they might
                                                  have that a craft
                                                  might be brought that
                                                  might have more
                                                  technical abilities
                                                  then their skills
                                                  currently have, they
                                                  could learn from its
                                                  reverse engineering at
                                                  the same time but
                                                  that’s just a theory.
 
 Omal: that is a very
                                                  good theory.
 
 Russ: well that way I
                                                  think they’d have a of
                                                  reason to do so. Just
                                                  okay they get a Zeta
                                                  craft, well they
                                                  certainly know how to
                                                  make a Zeta craft work
                                                  but maybe there's
                                                  something that they
                                                  can make the Zeta
                                                  craft better that
                                                  they.......
 
 Omal: the
                                                  maneuverability and
                                                  agility of some of our
                                                  craft?
 
 Russ: just as for an
                                                  example sure and they
                                                  could see a massive
                                                  benefit out of that
                                                  then.
 
 Omal: yes but they
                                                  would be missing one
                                                  key element.
 
 Russ: the dimensional
                                                  shift.
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Omal: put it this way,
                                                  when a pilot expires
                                                  from old age, what
                                                  happens to the vessel?
 
 Russ: oh that's right,
                                                  its
                                                  basically.........its
                                                  soul or its brain goes
                                                  with him.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: so if the pilot
                                                  dies, so does the
                                                  ship.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: hmm, kind of a
                                                  safety factor.
 
 Omal: uh-huh, there is
                                                  a symbiotic
                                                  relationship.
 
 Russ: oh that’s right,
                                                  I forgot about that. I
                                                  should ask The Baron
                                                  about that actually.
                                                  Maybe next week he
                                                  would be a good one
                                                  with that. Is he still
                                                  in the room?
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: oh excellent,
                                                  cool.
 
 
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