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                 (Karra deals with the problems of
                          long-term techniques for storing water so no
                          air gets to it that would allow mold to form.
                          As a bonus we learn of the Sirian Defense
                          Force's way of purifying water much in a way halazone works. We also get
                            a lesson on the storage of gas for
                            emergencies where it may be needed years
                            later.)
 
 
 Russ: now the
                      question I have for you was on the water
                      purification wise.
 
 Karra: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: we're thinking on some kind of storage
                      unit.....
 
 Karra: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: is that still an optional thing that we can
                      work with?
 
 Karra: I'm having difficulty with some of your
                      ideas for storage vessels. One of the things that
                      is very important is that no air gets into the
                      storage vessel because that's when the chemical
                      reaction happens and you get stagnant. If it's a
                      sealed unit that's totally sealed with no air that
                      got in, that will work but some of the ideas that
                      we've had as I said at the time they're a little
                      weak to work with.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Skip: you mean for the storage of water?
 
 Karra: uh-huh, got to be totally airtight with no
                      air in them whatsoever.
 
 Skip: well darling, question.
 
 Karra: uh-huh.
 
 Skip: are you familiar with what the military
                      developed years ago and they call them halazone
                      tablets?
 
 Karra: not my department I'm afraid. Sounds like
                      some kind of engineering problem.
 
 Skip: no, it's a tablet you drop in water and it
                      purifies the water.......
 
 Karra: oh.
 
 Skip: okay? It's a chemical but I believe the
                      basis of it is chlorine.
 
 Karra: oh Tisk.
 
 Skip: so it purifies any water so you can drink
                      it.
 
 Karra: sounds like Tisk.
 
 Skip: sounds like what?
 
 Karra: it's a capsule that we pour into water that
                      purifies it when we're in the field.
 
 Skip: yeah well that's what these were developed
                      for is in the field.
 
 Russ: what's the harmful effects to the body, side
                      effects wise?
 
 Skip: halazone? Not one, not one.
 
 Laura: I believe what it is...
 
 Skip: I'm sorry.
 
 Laura: sorry, I believe what is that you're
                      discussing is based in chlorine bleach that we
                      commonly use but what it does is adds an extra
                      molecule or two, I believe it's two of oxygen and
                      prevents germ growth, bacterial growth.
 
 Karra: yeah, very similar to what ours does. Tisk
                      is a little powder that you pour into vats of
                      water. It's only a tiny, little amount that you
                      pour in and it distributes between the molecules
                      of the water and I'm not quite sure of the
                      chemical reaction, I slept through that in class.
 
 Skip: may I interrupt you just a little bit
                      darling?
 
 Karra: yeah sure,
 
 Karra: the halazone tablets that we got issued in
                      the service is about the same size of an aspirin
                      for a canteen of water. You just dropped it in.
                      You could take water out of a stagnant pool and
                      drop in a halazone tablet and drink it. Of course
                      it tasted like *%^# but you could drink it and it
                      wouldn't hurt you.
 
 Laura: it's an ozone oxygenator I believe.
 
 Russ: so no moss or algae or anything forms
                      period?
 
 Skip: none.
 
 Russ: so what kind of container would be the best
                      for that, steel, ceramic, wood?
 
 Skip: I would say steel, plastic lined.
 
 Karra: yeah, yeah, that would work.
 
 Skip: because steel is not going to....plastic
                      breaths. I don't care what it is, plastic breaths
                      okay? And if it breaths, that means you're
                      allowing air from the outside in and your algae
                      can grow. Steel can't breathe but by lining it
                      with plastic, even if you put a plastic bag inside
                      of it, once you seal it, it's sealed, nothings
                      going to get in.
 
 Karra: and that's very, very important. That's
                      what's been giving me the big concerns. Skip's
                      given us the keys.
 
 Skip: I'm sorry?
 
 Karra: you've given us the keys that we need.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Skip: I would suggest, now this is just a
                      suggestion, I would suggest open top drums that
                      the lid has got a rubber seal and when you put it
                      down and put the band around it it seals airtight.
 
 Karra: in fact, the best way would be to fill it
                      so that it reaches the point where it's actually
                      overflowing when you put it on.
 
 Skip: yeah and it squishes the water out when you
                      put the lid on.
 
 Karra: yeah, which means the air is not getting
                      trapped.
 
 Skip: there you go.
 
 Russ: that would work, excellent.
 
 Karra: yeah, because that's my biggest concern is
                      the air getting in there and the chemical reaction
                      that can occur.
 
 Skip: and once you open them, you go through 55
                      gallons of water in very short time.
                      Because......okay I'll tell you, let me give you a
                      for instance. In my camping trailer, I've got two
                      30 gallon tanks in there that I can fill with
                      water. They run out before the week runs out. So
                      that's actually over 60 gallons of water we use in
                      a week's time.
 
 Russ: but what are using it for, drinking, washing
                      dishes, showers?
 
 Skip: no, we don't shower, we don't shower. It
                      flushes the pot, doing dishes which done once
                      every two days, drinking and cooking with it and
                      that's it.
 
 Russ: good.
 
 Skip: so that gives you kind of a rule of thumb to
                      work with. Am I right or wrong darling?
 
 Karra: you sound right. (To Laura) take a deep
                      breath, go...does that feel a little better?
 
 Laura: yes.
 
 Karra: I thought so.
 
 Russ: okay another thing we're working on is a
                      generator.
 
 Karra: generator, you'll have to ask Kiri about
                      that as long as she can keep from strangling
                      Daniel at the moment (Leonedies).
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 (Skip laughs)
 
 Laura: where's the petrol going to come from for
                      the generator?
 
 Russ: storing.
 
 Karra: got some problems there.
 
 Laura: gasoline's unstable.
 
 Russ: how about diesel?
 
 Skip: okay, your new gasoline's you don't have
                      problems storing it, there is no lacquers in it,
                      there's no lead in it. Unleaded gasoline is clear
                      and you can use it in gas stoves, you can use in
                      lanterns, you can use it in engines, it's what we
                      used call white gas when I was a kid because there
                      was no lead in it. Now they've taken the lead out
                      of gasoline, gasoline will store for up to about
                      five years without varnishes.
 
 Russ: excellent, that'll work fine.
 
 Skip: yeah and if you want to store it longer than
                      that, there is a chemical that you can pour in it
                      that the varnishes will never form.
 
 Laura: yeah stabilizers.
 
 Russ: okay, I think five years would be more than
                      adequate though.
 
 Skip: oh yes definitely. Well you can
                      store....well stop and figure out Russ, people
                      store snowblowers over the summer and fire them up
                      in the winter.
 
 Karra: and boats over the winter and fire them up
                      in the summer.
 
 Skip: that's correct, lawnmowers and gasoline
                      doesn't form any varnishes anymore.
 
 Russ: okay good.
 
 Skip: the lead was what was building the varnish.
 
 Russ: well thank you Karra.
 
 Karra: no problem, no problem. I've done my point
                      for little bit.
 
 Skip: thank you darling.
 
 Karra: oh you're welcome, you're welcome.
 
 
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