(Tia gives her opinion on the predictions of Nostradamus which gets us into a conversation about future events. Tia makes the point that acting globally is not out of the question if enough people are dedicated to acting with one voice.) 

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Tia: oh, as we get older huh? Well I can’t tell you my full name because you wouldn’t be able to get your tongue around it in my native language. So what do you want to know? Oh well, we’re going to sit here and look at each other huh?

Nicole: that’s what I’m doing with you.

Tia: yeah, it's hard to visualize me with Mark’s body isn’t it?

John: yeah, considering you’re five-foot two, strawberry blonde hair.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: she thinks you’re a lot prettier than Mark.

Tia: I am a lot prettier than Mark but Mark has his advantages.

Nicole: so what do you do on your planet Tia?

Tia: well where I am now, I analyze information, research data and I research all sorts of interesting things actually. Politics, world events, civil events, all sorts of interesting things. Go on, ask me a question.

Nicole: do you believe in Nostradamus’ predictions?

Tia: hmm, I’ve read his predictions but believing in them there is certain random factors that are inevitable. At the turn-of-the-century on your planet they were making movies about going to the moon. Totally impossible they said, totally impossible, flights of fantasy. And what are they doing? They’re going out beyond your moon. They’re sending probes to all sorts of places. Jupiter for one, where’s another one that they sent one recently to? I think they’re sending another one out here as well.

Nicole: so do you think the last prediction made, or not the last prediction…..

Tia: oh, the one about the guy with the blue turban?

Nicole: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: not the last one but in 3,900.......

Tia: yeah, about the guy with the blue turban.

Nicole: who destroys……

Tia: much of the world.

Nicole: yeah.

Tia: no, I don’t think he’s going to materialize. Now the question is, how did I know that that was your question?

Nicole: how did you know Tia?

Tia: because it’s right above your head. It was the first thing that you were thinking of.

Nicole: I watched a movie the other day, a documentary…..

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and I thought it would be perfect, it's between the years 1994 and 1999….

Tia: uh-huh, yeah.

Nicole: I'm going to be still alive so I'm quite concerned.

Tia: uh-huh, well if my memory is correct on his predictions, he doesn’t make any reference to a Southern continent.

Nicole: no but still, I don’t wish that upon…..

Tia: anybody.

Nicole: anyone in this world.

Tia: I don’t think he’s going to come, there’s going to be continuing civil strife but as for the guy in the blue turban, there is a possibility that he’s already here and it’s not a blue turban.

Nicole: blue beret?

Tia: hmm, no, he hasn’t worn a blue beret.

Nicole: because there's a fellow that Mark was telling me…..

Tia: Mark is wrong, he’s never worn a blue beret.

Nicole: right, you know Mark mentioned that there is a certain Iranian or Iraqian….

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: that wears a blue beret?

Tia: hmm, I don’t think he wears a blue beret.

Nicole: oh.

Tia: other colors yes but I don’t think he’s ever worn a blue, blue beret.

Nicole: well, is there anything that could stop the destruction other than people that actually press the button?

Tia: uh-huh, action, one person can make a difference because with one person you can start a ball rolling. If you go out onto a mountaintop right? And you make a snowball in your hands and you start rolling it downhill it gets bigger and bigger doesn’t it?

Nicole: yeah.

Tia: and it gets to a point where it’s very big and will continue moving under its own inertia correct?

Nicole: right.

Tia: and that is what one person can do, they can start the ball rolling. And how you deal with political corruption and bickering would be to form action groups, pry into the government’s affairs, find out what’s going on, listen, analyze, think your own thoughts not what they tell you to think but what you want to think.

Nicole: political heads don't listen to little people like me.

Tia: yes they do, if there’s enough of you.

Nicole: it’s a matter of getting enough people.

Tia: uh-huh, I’m sure that there’s lots of people that you could get to help you. There was a gentleman here last........you’re from the same place aren’t you?

Nicole: what place is that?

Tia: from the gentleman who that was here last year, what’s his name?

Russ: Ando.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: oh right, Ando yeah.

Tia: you know him?

Nicole: yep.

Tia: did he tell you about me teasing him?

Nicole: he told me about........

Tia: ohhh. Yes, I teased him, I’ll tease anybody that is that open and receptive.

Nicole: it is funny. It’s too easy.

Tia: uh-huh, it is easy. Okay, we were covering Nostradamus’ predictions.

Russ: so if you see one place then you see all over?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Damn….

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: oh well.

Tia: yep, that’s the way it goes.

Russ: yeah, I can only hope.

Tia: uh-huh, some places are already in projection A already and progressing nicely into it although that’s a bad way to say it, they're progressing.

Russ: so, in another words, you got places that have got, because of the unbalanced budget….

Tia: of their nation.

Russ: oh, in their nation?

Tia: uh-huh, there’s a lot that are unbalanced. There’s one country in particular, and I know who’s been following this a little bit, that is having strikes and things because they want to balance their budget in three years.

Russ: who, France?

Tia: uh-huh, isn’t that so?

Nicole: I don’t know too much about France’s budget?

Tia: oh.

Nicole: sorry.

Tia: oh that’s all right.

Nicole: but I do have concern about the country…..

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: being that half my family live there.

Tia: yeah and people are striking all over the place or I believe the strike is over now.

Nicole: yeah I know they’re striking.

Tia: uh-huh.

John: would you say that the macro economic decline is pretty much planetary?

Tia: yes, because it’s reached a point in saturation of the markets. For example, let me see.....okay, you want fresh strawberries right?

John: yeah.

Tia: now, 10 or 15 years ago you couldn’t get them without paying a lot of money this time of year on your planet, right when it’s all white and wet down there.

Russ: yeah right.

John: yeah that’s true.

Tia: now you can go to the supermarket and buy them whenever you want, where do they come from?

Russ: greenhouses.

Tia: and?

John: other countries.

Tia: thank you.

John: with different growing seasons.

Tia: correct. So therefore what has happened is that the market has been expanded and it’s reached a point where you can get whatever you want whenever you want and it cuts down on the numbers of suppliers because it costs to bring things in to your local neighborhood so therefore it bumps up the price and pushes the smaller guys out of business which in turn makes the bigger guys have a much more bigger profit margin so they can push the price up little bit more.

John: yeah that’s true.

Tia: uh-huh, so you reach a point of saturation and when you reach that point, people get put out of work because the price plummets down having climbed up to a nice respectable number it plummets back down and the big growers have to lay off their workforce to be economically viable and you have an overbalance.

Russ: hmm.

John: so it would be safe to say that we are in a planetary A stage of deterioration?

Tia: hmm, very early stage, in some places it’s progressed further and other places haven’t progressed further. There is a gentleman that was in the…..hold on let me get my notes out here…..oh yes, gentleman responsible for banking problems in…..it's around here somewhere……..ahh yes, banking problems……..I think his name is Keating?

John: oh yeah.

Nicole: even in Australia.

Tia: uh-huh and what did he do to the banks? He really goofed them up didn’t he?

Russ: Savings and Loan thing.

John: yeah, the Savings and Loans yeah.

Tia: uh-huh. So, Australia is in the early, early stages or pre-stages to situation A but the Savings and Loan scandals when Bush was in office…..

John: right.

Tia: were the startings of your problems…..

John: right.

Tia: you see? With Australia, there is still a chance to avoid it and to become an isolated, economically secure area.

Russ: so the way they do that is by becoming self-sufficient?

Tia: uh-huh and they can do it.

Russ: yeah, what’s going to promote that?

Tia: by watching the bigger countries with larger populations start to fall to pieces.

Nicole: yeah that’s our biggest problem, we like America’s big influence on us and we follow them a lot….

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and I just wish that we'd stay the hell away from America as….

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: far as…..

Tia: economic.

Nicole: yeah, influence.....

Russ: it'd be healthier, that’s for sure.

Nicole: sorry?

Russ: it'd be healthier for you.

Nicole: yeah for sure. Yeah America….

John: well the impact with Canada and Mexico…..

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: NAFTA?
 
John: is very similar to the situation in the United States even though there's different social systems.

Tia: well Mexico is a fine example of a country that has progressed deep into territory A, they’re in the first stages……..not the first stages, second stages. Sorry, I do apologize.

Russ: so Tia, we could watch them and get an idea of what's going to happen here?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: because I haven’t followed them very closely, I should probably follow it more closely.

Tia: I’m surprised that you’re not following them because you do….

Russ: America, I know. But I don't understand……

John: they're suppressing a lot of that information of what’s going on down there.

Russ: oh they are?

Tia: uh-huh.

John: I got told some information by some Latinos that is.......and they’re not really publicizing it, they're suppressing that information so it’s tough to come by from what I found.

Russ: oh I see.

Tia: uh-huh and another place to watch is a very big country that has broken down into minor countries and to watch that country is another place to watch. They are not as far as long as the place south of the border but they’re just as far down the road…..or a little bit further down the road than you guys are.

John: is it North America?

Tia: no.

Russ: no, Soviet Union.

Tia: uh-huh.

John: oh okay.

Russ: now the question is, if the country gets desperate enough, would there be an aggressive stance on their part toward us?

Tia: no, they will come to you to look for aid.

Russ: but if we’re going downhill?

Tia: you’ve got more than they’ve got and you can help them.

Russ: yeah but that will just send us down quicker right?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: especially without a balanced budget.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm.

John: snow.

Tia: oh.

Russ: now what about......you were mentioning layoffs earlier, I was talking to Mark about the downsizing effect….

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and how major companies where they had a 20% profit last year are looking at a 13% profit this year. The 20% was strictly all based upon the downsizing they did.

Tia: yes and 13%, what happens when they reach the point where they are starting to become economically unviable and they're looking at their 20% and their 13% and they want to get back to it? What happens is, I refer you to my answer I gave some minutes ago.

Russ: hmm, so they’re going to downsize again.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: but now the thing is, if they’re putting out 50,000 people out of work off at AT&T or something?

Tia: uh-huh, yeah….

Russ: then those people don’t buy products which brings other companies down even farther right?

Tia: uh-huh which again is a step down the road.

Russ: causes more downsizing.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: well…..the actual….

Tia: relax.

Nicole: high employment….

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: low-inflation…….

Tia: that’s right.

Nicole: is what it all comes down to.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: employment and inflation has to balance off.....

Tia: that’s right.

Nicole: and that is what the budget really has to concentrate on.

Tia: uh-huh. You have to cut down the expenditures of the government, the size of the government is totally unnecessary. Even on my home planet we never had a government that big since we became a peaceable race.

Russ: hmm, well it’s a more independent kind of planet that you come from anyway though right?

Tia: uh-huh yeah.

Russ: I mean you don’t have welfare.

Tia: no, we had it and it almost destroyed our planet.

Russ: oh really?

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: do you have currency?

Tia: yeah, on my home planet yes, up here no.

Russ: well what did you guys use for currency on your home planet?

Tia: oh…..

Russ: hamsters?

(Tia says jokingly) yes, hamsters.

(everyone starts laughing)

Nicole: I'm going to have one of Mark's cigarettes.

Tia: it’s bad for your health you know, it stunts your growth. I was about to say, you want to be five-foot two all your life?

Nicole: I’m not five-foot two, I’m five-foot seven.

Tia: hmm, so I’d get a crick in the neck talking to you.

Russ: I wish you were talking to me.

Nicole: how tall are you, five-foot two?

Tia: yeah five-foot two.

Nicole: I'll get down on my knees then.

(Russ and John start laughing loudly)

(Tia says jokingly) you wait, I’ll come down and I’ll bite you.

Nicole: I hope we’re still friends.

Tia: we are.

Russ: what a low blow.

Tia: oohh, that was low as well.

Nicole: I'm only joking Tia.

John: oh God, that was a good one.

Nicole: I'm only joking Tia, I mean no harm to anyone, I’m just a sarcastic person.

Tia: I can be sarcastic too.

Nicole: that’s cool, I can take it all in fun.

Tia: I’ve been told to behave.

Russ: okay so….

John: okay let’s….

Russ: all right, so we’re looking at Mexico as an example to watch out for.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now if they......because they have various forms of currency problems.....the fact that they use currency is different from.....it’s going to be the same thing we have right?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: but on a larger scale.

Tia: you see what they did was that their money started to run into problems so they printed more money and again that increased the problems, there was more money in circulation so they printed more money.

John: yeah and they didn’t have the gold or the….

Tia: resources.

John: resources to back it up.

Tia: yeah, that’s right.

Russ: will they privatize the banks?

Tia: hmm no, I don’t think they will, the government wants to keep control so that they can collect taxes for their treasury so that they can carry on with their social programs and keep paying the police officers and the army to stop them from branching out on their own.

John: now wouldn’t Mexico’s deterioration accelerate both United States and Canada’s economic deterioration?

Tia: hmm yes and no. In the areas in the southern part of your country, yes it will because that is where most of the trading goes on between Mexico and your country. With Canada, it’s the northern part of your country that does the bulk of the trading there so that wouldn’t be as affected as much. However, as people move from areas that have been affected by the economic problems in Mexico migrate to the north, they bring the problem with them. That there is overpopulation of those areas and it is necessary to find work for them and housing and so on and again that creates a stress on the population.

Nicole: and also their money, most of the Mexicans send it home don’t they?

Tia: uh-huh, so you….

Nicole: so that’s money going out of the country.

Tia: taking it out of the economy, you’re very quick to pick up on that.

Nicole: I’m an accountant back in Australia.

Tia: oh, you are?

Nicole: yeah.

Tia:  hmm, yes, I’m what you might say an analyst.

Nicole: I like analyism too.

Tia: yeah, it’s a lot of fun. Some of things I analyze I can’t say about.

Russ: so if this is going to affect our situation up here….

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: as what happens in Mexico…

(Tia speaks only to Nicole who is giggling) no, they’re not those sort of things.

Nicole: I wasn’t thinking anything.

Russ: how is our situation.......how do we work around that?

Nicole: sorry.

Tia: how do we work around it?

Russ: in other words, do we as a government or a country prohibit the crossing of the border or granting of visas or something?

Tia: you cut down on it. To make sure your country is stable, what do you have to do? And I’m going to make a quote here from a gentleman by the name of De Gaulle. I couldn’t say his first name, I couldn’t get my mouth to pronounce it and I couldn’t get Mark’s to make the right shape as well. De Gaulle he’s….

Nicole: De Gaulle the French?

Tia: yes, what did he say?

Nicole: I don’t know.

Tia: France for the French.

Nicole: yeah, yeah.

Tia: he was referring to America trying trying give them Trident missiles.

Nicole: we had a prime minister……sorry, I’m so used to president……we had a prime minister in Australia and his name was Bob Hawke?

Tia: uh-huh. Yep, I’m fully aware of Bob Hawke.

Nicole: he brought so many Asians or he believed in immigration big-time......

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and I know what you mean, French for France or whatever......

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: Australia for Australia, America for America, Mexico for Mexico.

Tia: that’s right.

Nicole: Mexico have got no idea their government, they have a rich, they have a poor.

Tia: I’m going to quote a……I think he was the second or third American president....and he was the second.....and his statement was, "a little revolution from time to time is a good thing". Who was that Russ?

Russ: that would be Jefferson.

Tia: uh-huh. I was about to say if you don’t get it right I'll move on to the next person. Okay, now we'll come back to this but first of all we need to get Skip on the blower.

John: okay, I’ll give him a call right now.

Russ: before we get him on the phone I can ask you a question.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: what we're basically looking at right now is Mark, me and Johnny are planning for our retirement years in about two of them right?

Tia: uh-huh.

John: yeah, that’s a good way to put it.

Russ: so if you look at this card here, can you open your eyes.

Tia: move it a little closer. The three of…

Russ: wands.

Tia: what’s that meant to mean?

Russ: looking over the situation at hand.

Tia: ahh, no, it doesn’t work anymore. No it’s gone, can’t get a look. Kiri can though, she’ll open Mark’s eyes and look at people.

Russ: that’s basically where we're at right now?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: we are observing around us but the time of action is also at hand.

Tia: yeah.