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                 (Omal has a
                      discourse on the growth of the human spiritual
                      development and how it will be affected by each of
                      the expected scenarios. He has some great ideas as
                      well about alternative options of getting power if
                      none is available in a breakdown of society.)
 
 
 Omal:
                                                          greetings and
                                                          felicitations.
                                                          Greetings
                                                          Amber,
                                                          greetings
                                                          Johnny,
                                                          greetings
                                                          apprentice
                                                          communicator.
 
 Russ:
                                                          greetings
                                                          Omal.
 
 John:
                                                          greetings
                                                          Omal.
 
 Amber:
                                                          greetings.
 
 Omal: okay,
                                                          let us proceed
                                                          and how is the
                                                          New York Wild
                                                          Bunch coming?
 
 John: my
                                                          family is
                                                          quite strong
                                                          and quite good
                                                          and they are
                                                          continuing
                                                          with the
                                                          preparations.
 
 Omal: okay so
                                                          they are
                                                          becoming the
                                                          Hole in the
                                                          Wall Gang. Who
                                                          is Butch and
                                                          who is
                                                          Sundance?
 
 John: that’s
                                                          hard to say at
                                                          any given
                                                          time. I don’t
                                                          even know if
                                                          I’m going to
                                                          be in a
                                                          position to
                                                          rejoin them or
                                                          where I’m
                                                          going to be
                                                          when one of
                                                          these
                                                          scenarios
                                                          happens.
 
 Omal: okay.
 
 John: I might
                                                          be here, I
                                                          might be
                                                          there, I could
                                                          be anywhere.
 
 Omal: okay,
                                                          now down to
                                                          serious
                                                          business from
                                                          the humor of
                                                          the Wild Bunch
                                                          or the Hole in
                                                          the Wall Gang.
                                                          Okay,
                                                          questions
                                                          please.
 
 Russ: I'll let
                                                          you guys start
                                                          this time.
 
 John: there’s
                                                          been numerous
                                                          sightings
                                                          around Mexico
                                                          and Mexico
                                                          City? And I’m
                                                          wondering if
                                                          it is friendly
                                                          UFO activity
                                                          or unfriendly?
 
 Omal: mainly
                                                          friendly,
                                                          mainly
                                                          friendly.
 
 John: there
                                                          seems to be a
                                                          large increase
                                                          of activity in
                                                          the whole
                                                          southern
                                                          hemisphere,
                                                          are you right
                                                          now beefing up
                                                          operations so
                                                          to speak?
 
 Omal: we are
                                                          not, we are
                                                          monitoring the
                                                          situations and
                                                          filtering out
                                                          hostiles as
                                                          much as
                                                          possible.
                                                          Occasionally
                                                          and
                                                          unfortunately
                                                          some of our
                                                          vessels are
                                                          spotted and
                                                          reported in
                                                          your popular
                                                          press. The
                                                          pilots
                                                          responsible
                                                          are dealt with
                                                          and situations
                                                          like that do
                                                          not arise as
                                                          often.
 
 John: is part
                                                          of our
                                                          perceiving
                                                          your activity
                                                          more and more
                                                          due to our
                                                          technology?
 
 Omal: yes but
                                                          it is not just
                                                          us.
 
 John: but you
                                                          are
                                                          continuously
                                                          monitoring us?
 
 Omal: correct,
                                                          yes.
 
 John: and
                                                          intervening?
 
 Omal: whenever
                                                          necessary.
 
 John: go ahead
                                                          Amber.
 
 Russ: on the
                                                          spot over
                                                          there.
 
 John: it’s
                                                          been puzzling
                                                          me this…….
 
 Omal: let me
                                                          get the
                                                          spotlight…..there.
 
 Russ: okay
                                                          Omal, we are
                                                          dealing with
                                                          the three
                                                          various
                                                          scenarios….
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: and I
                                                          wanted to ask
                                                          you some of
                                                          the results
                                                          and outcomes
                                                          of each of the
                                                          three.
 
 Omal: all
                                                          three lead on
                                                          various
                                                          similar paths
                                                          to a lesser or
                                                          greater
                                                          extent.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: the
                                                          worst-case
                                                          scenario is a
                                                          long time in
                                                          reconstruction
                                                          and therefore
                                                          slows down the
                                                          next stage in
                                                          development.
                                                          Situation B
                                                          slows it down
                                                          but not as
                                                          much and again
                                                          increases the
                                                          delay in the
                                                          spiritual
                                                          development.
                                                          Situation A it
                                                          proceeds at
                                                          the current
                                                          speed that is
                                                          going. A
                                                          combination of
                                                          A and B as you
                                                          correctly
                                                          surmised does
                                                          in actual fact
                                                          accelerate it.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 John: am I
                                                          correct in
                                                          assuming that
                                                          we are in
                                                          scenario A
                                                          right now as
                                                          we speak?
 
 Omal: at the
                                                          very
                                                          beginning.
 
 John: thank
                                                          you. Go ahead,
                                                          sorry.
 
 Russ: no
                                                          problem. All
                                                          right now you
                                                          say that
                                                          scenario A
                                                          into B works
                                                          for the best
                                                          for us
                                                          theoretically.
 
 Omal:
                                                          theoretically.
 
 Russ: okay,
                                                          now how does
                                                          that work on a
                                                          spiritual
                                                          development
                                                          scale for
                                                          those of us
                                                          who are just
                                                          on an
                                                          individual
                                                          level, as
                                                          teachers and
                                                          stuff?
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: we work
                                                          on those
                                                          people who
                                                          dealing with
                                                          the stress of
                                                          the situation
                                                          and teach
                                                          them?
 
 Omal: correct.
                                                          Yes, in
                                                          essence yes,
                                                          but it is a
                                                          little bit
                                                          more than
                                                          that.
                                                          Basically what
                                                          you are doing
                                                          is by helping
                                                          others, you
                                                          are helping
                                                          yourself in
                                                          the process by
                                                          being an ear
                                                          that listens
                                                          and gives
                                                          good, sound
                                                          advice, then
                                                          you also are
                                                          learning. And
                                                          by learning
                                                          you learn that
                                                          you can do
                                                          better and so
                                                          therefore you
                                                          feel better
                                                          and you help
                                                          more people
                                                          and in turn
                                                          that makes you
                                                          feel better
                                                          and them
                                                          better so you
                                                          learn more and
                                                          so on.
 
 Russ: now do
                                                          you perceive
                                                          possibly that
                                                          these sessions
                                                          that we’re
                                                          having could
                                                          lead to a
                                                          larger group
                                                          of people thus
                                                          necessitating
                                                          a larger room
                                                          possibly?
 
 Omal: possibly
                                                          yes.
 
 Russ: a bigger
                                                          pyramid.
 
 Omal: a bigger
                                                          pyramid, a
                                                          bigger room.
 
 Russ: right, I
                                                          see what you
                                                          mean.
 
 Omal: or, same
                                                          size pyramid
                                                          just bigger
                                                          room.
 
 Russ: oh yeah
                                                          right. Okay,
                                                          Johnny?
 
 John: you’ve
                                                          overheard our
                                                          discussions
                                                          and our
                                                          planning with
                                                          our supplies….
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 John: and we
                                                          do have to
                                                          deal with
                                                          third
                                                          dimensional
                                                          monetary
                                                          situations
                                                          and, as far as
                                                          priorities,
                                                          you would say
                                                          number one
                                                          would be the
                                                          construction
                                                          of the
                                                          storage?
 
 Omal: yes I
                                                          would.
 
 Russ: okay
                                                          now, Johnny
                                                          and I were
                                                          working on
                                                          figuring out
                                                          the best,
                                                          easiest and
                                                          most available
                                                          form of energy
                                                          for the coming
                                                          up time.
                                                          Candles are
                                                          not going to
                                                          do the trick,
                                                          batteries will
                                                          do okay if we
                                                          have like
                                                          little solar
                                                          juices but how
                                                          do we power?
 
 Omal: there
                                                          are many
                                                          different ways
                                                          of power.
 
 Russ: right
                                                          well we don’t
                                                          have wind to
                                                          really speak
                                                          of as much as
                                                          we’d like…..
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: to do
                                                          our job for us
                                                          and water is
                                                          not going to
                                                          be viable
                                                          because we
                                                          don’t live
                                                          close enough
                                                          to a water
                                                          source that is
                                                          flowing.
 
 Omal: that’s
                                                          where you
                                                          construct one.
 
 Russ:
                                                          construct one?
 
 Omal: you have
                                                          a two-story
                                                          house or
                                                          almost a
                                                          three-story
                                                          house.
 
 Russ: yeah?
 
 John: yeah?
 
 Omal: you have
                                                          a reservoir at
                                                          the top and it
                                                          pours down and
                                                          in turn turns
                                                          a turbine
                                                          which
                                                          generates
                                                          power and it
                                                          uses less
                                                          power to
                                                          transport it
                                                          back up and
                                                          around.
 
 Russ: oh I see
                                                          what you mean,
                                                          so it’s a
                                                          self-sustaining
                                                          device….
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: turning
                                                          in energy……oh,
                                                          okay. And the
                                                          speed of the
                                                          water controls
                                                          the speed of
                                                          the turbine.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: wow
                                                          that's a plan
                                                          I hadn’t
                                                          thought of, I
                                                          can pick up
                                                          the parts for
                                                          that fairly
                                                          cheaply too.
                                                          Okay so the
                                                          only trick is
                                                          just filling
                                                          up the
                                                          reservoir.
 
 Omal: correct,
                                                          preferably a
                                                          large
                                                          reservoir.
 
 Russ: now how
                                                          is the water
                                                          transported
                                                          back up on top
                                                          though?
 
 Omal: through
                                                          a pipe that
                                                          leads back up.
 
 Russ: I mean
                                                          how is it
                                                          pushed back
                                                          up?
 
 Omal: you use
                                                          part of the
                                                          energy that is
                                                          generated……
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Omal: and that
                                                          is used to
                                                          pump it back
                                                          up.
 
 Russ: oh I
                                                          see, a pump is
                                                          hooked up on
                                                          the side.
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: oh okay,
                                                          wow. Johnny
                                                          you missed
                                                          that, it’s
                                                          incredible, a self-sustaining
                                                          pump system to
                                                          supply the
                                                          energy. We're
                                                          not going to
                                                          get much juice
                                                          out of it.
 
 Omal: but it
                                                          would be
                                                          enough to
                                                          power an
                                                          electric
                                                          light.
 
 Russ: ahhh.
 
 John: what
                                                          about solar?
                                                          Incorporating
                                                          solar?
 
 Omal: yes that
                                                          would work.
 
 John: passive
                                                          solar
                                                          pre-heater
                                                          possibly?
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: for the
                                                          water?
 
 John: can we
                                                          incorporate
                                                          both systems
                                                          together where
                                                          they would
                                                          interact?
 
 Omal: yes,
                                                          very much so.
 
 John: do we
                                                          have this
                                                          technology and
                                                          information
                                                          available?
 
 Omal: readily
                                                          available.
 
 John: so okay,
                                                          I’ve got
                                                          access to some
                                                          of this
                                                          information.
                                                          So we should
                                                          just pretty
                                                          much use the
                                                          alternative
                                                          power sources
                                                          that are
                                                          available to
                                                          us……
 
 Omal: correct,
                                                          yes.
 
 John: and that
                                                          we know of?
 
 Omal: what you
                                                          could do for
                                                          generating
                                                          power by using
                                                          heat
                                                          convection is
                                                          on top of your
                                                          chimney you
                                                          could put a
                                                          set of blades
                                                          which is
                                                          turned by the
                                                          heat connected
                                                          to a dynamo.
                                                          You fire up
                                                          the fire, you
                                                          generate
                                                          electricity.
                                                          Not only are
                                                          you creating
                                                          heating for
                                                          the housing
                                                          but you’re
                                                          also creating
                                                          electrical
                                                          power.
 
 John: so with
                                                          a combination
                                                          of
                                                          hydroelectric,
                                                          solar……
 
 Omal: thermal
                                                          electric.
 
 John: thermal,
                                                          hydroelectric
                                                          and
                                                          thermoelectric?
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 John: would an
                                                          assistance
                                                          basically be
                                                          combined with
                                                          what you
                                                          described?
 
 Omal: yes,
                                                          they would all
                                                          be combined
                                                          together.
 
 Russ: well the
                                                          thermoelectric
                                                          would be run
                                                          by the
                                                          fireplace, how
                                                          would that
                                                          connect up
                                                          with the
                                                          others?
 
 Omal: well
                                                          when you’re
                                                          not using one,
                                                          you’re using
                                                          another one.
 
 John: and wind
                                                          and we can
                                                          incorporate a
                                                          windmill.
 
 Russ: oh I
                                                          see, so in
                                                          another words
                                                          at night when
                                                          there’s no
                                                          solar, we’re
                                                          heating the
                                                          water up with
                                                          thermal of
                                                          course. Ahh
                                                          okay.
 
 John: and all
                                                          these things
                                                          that you’re
                                                          discussing I
                                                          could
                                                          incorporate on
                                                          the ranch in
                                                          Sedona.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 John: and my
                                                          family could
                                                          also
                                                          incorporate it
                                                          in our Hole in
                                                          the Wall Gang
                                                          back East.
 
 Omal: correct,
                                                          yes.
 
 Russ: so free,
                                                          cheap power.
 
 John: yeah,
                                                          there’s people
                                                          out there
                                                          right now that
                                                          are selling
                                                          power, excess
                                                          electricity
                                                          back to the
                                                          electric
                                                          company.
 
 Russ: now
                                                          Omal…..
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: in each
                                                          of the
                                                          scenarios that
                                                          we discussed,
                                                          scenario A
                                                          looks like the
                                                          most possible
                                                          for continuing
                                                          the power that
                                                          we currently
                                                          use now. So it
                                                          would only be
                                                          scenario B
                                                          that we have
                                                          to go to these
                                                          measures that
                                                          we're
                                                          discussing.
 
 Omal: correct,
                                                          yes.
 
 Russ: but to
                                                          have them
                                                          available, we
                                                          could use them
                                                          even in
                                                          scenario A and
                                                          save not only
                                                          money but in
                                                          power
                                                          outages.......
 
 Omal: correct,
                                                          yes.
 
 Russ: and the
                                                          sharing of the
                                                          technology
                                                          among others
                                                          that we're
                                                          working with
                                                          would probably
                                                          be the best
                                                          bet too.
 
 Omal: of
                                                          course, yes.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 John: and we
                                                          can also
                                                          incorporate
                                                          these
                                                          technologies
                                                          in a
                                                          backpacking
                                                          extreme
                                                          scenario.
 
 Omal: of
                                                          course, yes.
                                                          They are quite
                                                          thoughtful.
 
 John: using
                                                          black bags and
                                                          solar showers
                                                          and
                                                          evaporation
                                                          water units
                                                          are relatively
                                                          easy to…..
 
 Omal: and also
                                                          mirrors too.
 
 Russ: oh yeah
                                                          for solar
                                                          cooking.
 
 John: and how
                                                          do we
                                                          incorporate
                                                          the mirrors
                                                          exactly?
 
 Omal: you
                                                          create them at
                                                          such a curved
                                                          angle that
                                                          they reflect
                                                          and focus on a
                                                          central
                                                          focusing
                                                          point.
 
 Russ: you can
                                                          get 2000° out
                                                          of one of
                                                          those things.
 
 John: well I
                                                          know you can
                                                          paint a can
                                                          black and make
                                                          it into an
                                                          oven.
 
 Omal:
                                                          magnifying
                                                          glasses and so
                                                          on.
 
 Russ: sure,
                                                          hmm okay. Any
                                                          other
                                                          suggestions
                                                          for us as far
                                                          as things
                                                          we've
                                                          overlooked
                                                          tonight?
 
 Omal: you have
                                                          covered the
                                                          library, you
                                                          have covered
                                                          medical
                                                          supplies,
                                                          survival
                                                          supplies…..
 
 John: one
                                                          thing that we
                                                          didn’t touch
                                                          on in our
                                                          survival
                                                          supplies is
                                                          water
                                                          purification
                                                          tablets. We
                                                          did discuss a
                                                          distillation
                                                          system......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 John: should
                                                          we have water
                                                          purification
                                                          tablets
                                                          available?
 
 Omal: if
                                                          necessary,
                                                          yes.
 
 John: okay,
                                                          it’s something
                                                          I don’t like
                                                          to leave home
                                                          without.
 
 Russ: well if
                                                          we are having
                                                          to bring water
                                                          up from the
                                                          lake….
 
 John: you'd
                                                          want to purify
                                                          it.
 
 Russ: we could
                                                          have the
                                                          distillation
                                                          unit but we
                                                          could also
                                                          that way
                                                          purify it……
 
 John: purify
                                                          it and utilize
                                                          it quicker.
 
 Russ: okay
                                                          right, cool.
                                                          Okay and then
                                                          of course
                                                          we’re going to
                                                          be getting
                                                          help from you
                                                          throughout all
                                                          this mess.
 
 Omal: of
                                                          course, yes.
 
 Russ: so that
                                                          will be really
                                                          nice.
 
 Omal: okay, it
                                                          seems that you
                                                          are ending up
                                                          on your
                                                          questions.
 
 Russ: that’s
                                                          it for me.
 
 Omal: young
                                                          lady?
 
 Amber: no.
 
 Omal: Johnny?
 
 John: is there
                                                          anything that
                                                          we're not
                                                          doing right
                                                          now that we
                                                          should be that
                                                          you can
                                                          perceive?
 
 Omal:
                                                          expanding your
                                                          knowledge on
                                                          alternative
                                                          engineering
                                                          equipment.
 
 John: okay,
                                                          I’ve got
                                                          access to some
                                                          of that
                                                          information,
                                                          I’ll expedite
                                                          that.
 
 Omal: Russ.
 
 Russ: uh-huh?
 
 Omal: last
                                                          question.
 
 Russ: well
                                                          Karra was
                                                          talking a lot
                                                          about surgical
                                                          stuff, I would
                                                          assume
                                                          surgical
                                                          techniques
                                                          will be really
                                                          high of a
                                                          priority of
                                                          learning.
 
 Omal: basic
                                                          surgery, basic
                                                          surgery yes.
 
 Russ: basic
                                                          surgery. So
                                                          we’re not
                                                          talking about
                                                          going to go
                                                          into someone’s
                                                          stomach and
                                                          trying to
                                                          remove
                                                          appendix’s or
                                                          are we?
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: okay,
                                                          we’re talking
                                                          about pulling
                                                          out bullets
                                                          and…
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: fixing
                                                          up cuts and
                                                          bones and
                                                          lacerations….
 
 John: and I've
                                                          got a good
                                                          background in
                                                          that.
 
 Russ: and....
 
 John: I never
                                                          sewn anyone up
                                                          but.......
 
 Russ: the
                                                          knowledge of
                                                          that would
                                                          come in handy.
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: and
                                                          also, oh
                                                          nevermind,
                                                          that’s my last
                                                          question.
 
 (Russ starts
                                                          to laugh
                                                          heartily)
 
 Omal: it was
                                                          worth a
                                                          try.
 
 Russ: it was
                                                          worth a try.
 
 Omal: okay…..
 
 Russ: farewell
                                                          Omal.
 
 John: thank
                                                          you for your
                                                          patience.
 
 Omal: live
                                                          long, prosper,
                                                          and I’ll be
                                                          back. I’ll
                                                          take the Uzi 9
                                                          mm with laser
                                                          sights. Team
                                                          one to beam
                                                          up.
 
 
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