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                 (What starts as a
                            dissertation on time and the fourth
                            dimension becomes a round table on quantum
                            physics which quickly gets as deep as Omal
                            has ever gotten on the subject. He gets into
                            the warping of time where black holes are
                            concerned and describes for us what happens
                            once you pass over the event horizon all the
                            way to what comes out on the other side of
                            the hole.)
 
 
 Russ: now Omal, in
                                        my various trips with
                                        hallucinogenic materials.....
 
 Omal:
                                          uh-huh.
 
 Russ: I have come
                                        across similar experiences where
                                        maybe it’s not all of that but
                                        it’s a portion of that that you
                                        see all at once.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: is this kind
                                        of closing in on that gap a
                                        little bit when I did that?
 
 Omal: it is
                                        glimpsing what is possible, what
                                        time really is.
 
 Russ: oh okay.
 
 Omal: it is a
                                        mistake to say time is linear.
                                        Yes it is in an essence, one
                                        thing does follow another in
                                        normal third dimensional space,
                                        your space. However, in fourth
                                        dimensional space or time it
                                        does not. It is much
                                        like……..okay it is about to get
                                        very deep and heavy. I think
                                        probably few people will
                                        understand it that don’t have a
                                        grasp of quantum physics and I
                                        believe that is one of Mark’s
                                        favorite subjects is it not?
 
 Russ: it is.
 
 Omal: okay for the
                                        benefit of Mark. Okay, the
                                        nearest that can be experienced
                                        in normal time is at the event
                                        horizon. Now the event horizon
                                        is that point as you approach
                                        the speed of light in normal
                                        space. If I am boring you let me
                                        know.
 
 Linda M: (yawns)
                                        I’m sorry.
 
 Omal: that is all
                                        right. In normal space, as you
                                        approach the speed of light,
                                        time slows down. As you approach
                                        the event horizon which is the
                                        speed of light, time stops
                                        although for the observer
                                        outside of the object
                                        approaching the speed of light,
                                        time runs at a normal rate. The
                                        change is not perceived, it just
                                        looks like it’s moving very
                                        fast. For the observer inside
                                        the object as it approaches the
                                        speed of light time slows down
                                        however the observer, because he
                                        is within this field, does not
                                        notice either. As the
                                        speed of light approaches, it is
                                        noticed externally that the
                                        object is moving farther away at
                                        a higher speed. Internally,
                                        again it is not noticed. When
                                        the speed of light is reached,
                                        time stops. If the observer
                                        within the object was to look
                                        back at a clock that he was
                                        watching as he approached the
                                        speed of light, the hands would
                                        stand still. This is simple
                                        quantum physics. Where it starts
                                        to become a little bit
                                        convoluted is at the point where
                                        you exceed the speed of light.
                                        Now an analogy was used where an
                                        individual is at the speed of
                                        light, the
                                        speed of light being an absolute
                                        and it is an absolute inside
                                        normal space, it fluctuates but
                                        the speed of light is an
                                        absolute. If the individual was
                                        to get up and watching the
                                        clock, walk backwards away from
                                        the clock that is appearing to
                                        be stationary, that individual
                                        would be traveling faster than
                                        the speed of light but that is
                                        not so. He is traveling at a
                                        normal walking pace that he
                                        would be traveling in normal
                                        space because the vessel, even
                                        though it has approached the
                                        speed of light, inside it it is
                                        normal space. The person would
                                        have to accelerate to the speed
                                        of light again to be traveling
                                        at the speed of light but the
                                        object that he is within is
                                        traveling at the speed of light.
                                        Now, the equation E equals MC squared
                                        is a mathematical equation that
                                        is correct in essence. E equals
                                        energy or energy times mass
                                        times the speed of light which
                                        means as you accelerate, you
                                        need more energy which is taken
                                        from the mass. So the more mass
                                        that you have, the faster and
                                        closer you can approach the
                                        speed of light, interesting. As
                                        you approach the speed of light,
                                        you need more mass to turn into
                                        energy. In its current formula,
                                        there is not enough mass within
                                        your galaxy to achieve that
                                        speed of light. So traveling
                                        outside normal space is how you
                                        travel faster than the speed of
                                        light but you do not need to
                                        travel faster than the speed of
                                        light outside of normal space.
                                        Okay, do you understand Russ?
 
 Russ: not a single
                                        word of it but this does explain
                                        the movie "Contact" a little
                                        better though.
 
 Omal: okay.
                                        However, having reached the
                                        point of singularity or the
                                        event horizon sorry, okay you
                                        pass over the point of the event
                                        horizon. You head into a thing
                                        called singularity which is
                                        infinite, infinite smallness.
                                        The gravitational pull becomes
                                        so intense that everything is
                                        compressed into tiny, tiny
                                        unperceivable amounts. So
                                        therefore the person withinside
                                        the object traveling at the
                                        speed of light ceases to
                                        function, ceases to exist.
                                        However, what remains escapes as
                                        radiation back into the galaxy.
                                        Now, this has
                                        been theorized, a gravitational
                                        black hole which is what I’ve
                                        just described is the jump over
                                        the event horizon and a singularity
                                        is a black hole. As a black
                                        hole increases in mass, it pulls
                                        in more matter and energy and
                                        more light. As it becomes so
                                        massive, the gravitational pull
                                        weakens. However,
                                        at the point of singularity,the
                                        gravitational field is just as
                                        intense. It is more like a steep-sided
                                        hole as opposed to a gently
                                        sloping hole. You can sit on the
                                        top of a gentle or a massive
                                        black hole at the point of the
                                        event horizon and not be pulled
                                        in. On a small black hole, which
                                        may be the size of a marble but
                                        yet has the mass of your entire
                                        galaxy, will have a far greater
                                        pull than a black hole that has
                                        the mass of two
                                        galaxies, two large galaxies
                                        might I add. This is because of
                                        the intense nature of the pull
                                        of the black hole. Okay here
                                        endeth the dissertation on...
 
 Russ: quantum
                                        physics.
 
 Omal: basic quantum
                                        physics.
 
 Russ: basic quantum
                                        physics. I’ll put that on the
                                        web. Okay so in "Contact" where
                                        she gets dropped through that
                                        speed of light achieving thing,
                                        she’s actually reaching a point
                                        of event horizon?
 
 Omal: no, because
                                        there is no return over the
                                        event horizon.
 
 Russ: oh there
                                        isn’t?
 
 Omal: no, having
                                        achieved the event horizon, you
                                        are crushed out of existence.
 
 Russ:  ahhh.
 
 Omal: also the
                                        formula E equals MC squared
                                        states quite clearly that there
                                        is not enough mass in your
                                        galaxy to do that. For the young
                                        lady in "Contact" to travel the
                                        distance that she supposedly
                                        did, she would have to travel
                                        outside of normal space.
 
 Russ: and
                                        theoretically she wasn’t.
 
 Omal: that is their
                                        theory.
 
 Russ: right but I
                                        guess she was, she
                                        was out of normal space for that
                                        time period she was within the
                                        circling wheels.
 
 Omal: correct. In
                                        your entertainment "Star Trek"….
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: they have the
                                        right idea, warping space.
 
 Russ: where you’re
                                        ignoring normal space.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: I see.
 
 Omal: however the
                                        perception of stars shooting by
                                        is a suggestion of traveling at
                                        the speed or greater than the
                                        speed of light. As I’ve just
                                        stated, that is not so.
 
 Russ: actually
                                        you’d be closer to the movie
                                        "Dune".
 
 Omal: yes correct.
 
 Russ: where they're
                                        actually…
 
 Omal: folding…..
 
 Russ: taking and folding
                                        space and appearing on the point
                                        where they want to go.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: which still
                                        confuses me.
 
 Omal: that is more
                                        closer to reality than is the
                                        traveling at a greater speed
                                        than light, that is impossible.
 
 Russ: hmm, the
                                        folding of space?
 
 Omal: folding of
                                        space, bending, warping,
                                        whatever you wish to call it.
 
 Russ: interesting.
 
 Omal: when you do
                                        that, you travel outside of
                                        normal space.
 
 Russ: okay, hmm. So
                                        we’re approaching anything
                                        like…..there’s no way for us to
                                        approach the speed of light…..
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: until we're
                                        able to actually warp space.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: and then you
                                        don’t need to approach the speed
                                        of light.
 
 Russ: hmm, I'll
                                          have to
                                        go watch that movie "First
                                        Contact" where Zefram, whatever
                                        his name is (Zefram Cochrane)
                                        breaks the…..first makes warp
                                        speed.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: I forgot how
                                        they did that in that.
 
 Omal: I have not
                                        seen it, I can speculate and
                                          tell you
                                        how to do it but then….
 
 Russ: yeah right.
 
 Omal: I would be
                                        breaking my own rules.
 
 Russ: which
                                        wouldn't quite be kosher.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Omal: but as just
                                        been stated, how do I know that
                                        you are not the inventor of a
                                        device to warp and bend space?
 
 Russ: yeah good
                                        point.
 
 Omal: or if the
                                        gentleman…..the older gentleman
                                        that is normally here Skip, if
                                        he is not the person that is
                                        destined to be the one.
 
 Russ: yeah if
                                        you’re going to break the news,
                                        wait until he gets here.
 
 Omal: I don’t think
                                        he would understand, he does not
                                        have the background on your
                                        earth and he doesn’t have the
                                        access to the memories.
 
 Russ: right,
                                        interesting though. Okay, well
                                        that explains a lot about that
                                        but.......
 
 Omal: I think I
                                        might’ve bored the young lady a
                                        little.
 
 Russ: well that’s
                                        necessary sometimes for the
                                        educational lessons to come
                                        through.
 
 Omal: thank you.
 
 Russ: I mean it is
                                        something that we are working on
                                        achieving for the whole planet.
 
 Omal: eventually
                                        yes.
 
 Russ: eventually.
 
 Omal: but it is a
                                        very basic explanation on
                                        quantum physics.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: if you wish
                                        for me to get more technical,
                                        you might as well get up and
                                        wander off as I would be getting
                                        down to mathematical equations.
 
 Russ: well we
                                        would’ve lost half the audience
                                        on the webpage at that point
                                        anyway.
 
 Omal: I think we
                                        might’ve lost half already when
                                        I started talking about
                                        singularities and event horizons
                                        and…..
 
 Russ: yeah they're
                                        going to read this point and go,
                                        "what?" But that’s all right,
                                        that’s the whole point of doing
                                        it so some people can understand
                                        and figure it out right away and
                                        say, “that makes a lot of
                                        sense.”
 
 Omal: uh-huh. I
                                        hope I have explained it simply.
 
 Russ: well for some
                                        people I’m sure it was first
                                        grade. For me, a bit over my
                                        head.
 
 Omal: I do
                                        apologize.
 
 Russ: oh that’s all
                                        right, I expect that.
 
 Omal: have you been
                                        in on discussions when Mark
                                        starts theorizing and
                                        speculating?
 
 Russ: no, no not
                                        really. Luckily he tries to
                                        avoid those when I’m around.
 
 Omal: I have heard
                                        from Kiri that he does get very,
                                        very deep.
 
 Russ: I’ll take
                                        your word for it.
 
 Omal: Kiri is
                                        whispering that he had a very
                                        interesting discussion with a
                                        gentleman that he works with
                                        that was nothing but numbers and
                                        figures on a chalkboard.
 
 Russ: well that’s
                                        another one that would be over
                                        my head. I’m never good with
                                        numbers and figures. Anyway,
                                        thank you for that lesson, it
                                        was very educational.
 
 Omal: you’re
                                        welcome.
 
 
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