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                 (Kiri recalls some
                        ceremonies involving the calling of devas where
                        one was of the ocean and one was for the help in
                        a healing where a person was disconnected
                        between a higher and a middle self. The person
                        was not quite complete and the ceremony joined
                        the two parts to make a whole.)
 
 
 Kiri:
                                              yo.
 
 Russ: what up?
 
 Kiri: what up? Well Tia’s
                                              talking to…..oh, that’s
                                              what she wanted, okay.
 
 Russ: oh, she’s telling
                                              her story?
 
 Kiri: no, no she wanted to
                                              take…..she left her bag at
                                              home.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Kiri: and she just asked
                                              Karra for a tampon.
 
 Russ: oh. Good story, you
                                              ever been involved in
                                              these little ceremonies?
 
 Kiri: not the calling of a
                                              churon for the garden no.
 
 Russ: you ever witnessed
                                              one of them?
 
 Kiri: not for the land no.
 
 Russ: oh, what did you
                                              witness them for?
 
 Kiri: I was invited to one
                                              of……it’s different than a
                                              deva of the land, it's a
                                              deva of sensuality was one
                                              that I've witnessed and a
                                              calling of the ocean.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Kiri: and I was also
                                              invited to.....it was like
                                              of the land but not quite,
                                              it was for…..for once
                                              you’ve actually got me on
                                              a word that I can’t think
                                              of.
 
 Russ: really?
 
 Kiri: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: that’s pretty
                                              unusual.
 
 Kiri: yes.
 
 Russ: there’s only so many
                                              certain things to describe
                                              physical existence.
 
 Kiri: well it wasn’t so
                                              much a physical existence,
                                              it was a spiritual nature
                                              and I really don’t know
                                              what you would call it. It
                                              was the linking of a
                                              middle self and a higher
                                              self, bringing together.
                                              It was for somebody that
                                              wasn’t quite complete.
 
 Russ: oh, a joining.
 
 Kiri: yes, not a physical
                                              joining, it was a
                                              spiritual…..
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Kiri: bringing a person
                                              more into tune with
                                              themselves.
 
 Russ: an alignment?
 
 Kiri: it was more than an
                                              alignment. The alignment
                                              was just bringing them
                                              together, it was like a
                                              joining but meshing
                                              together, bringing them
                                              and weaving them into one
                                              whole person. It was
                                              either that or the person
                                              broke a big, big taboo.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Kiri: and the problem was
                                              that she was a sub-super
                                              operant.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Kiri: and you know what
                                              happens to some sub-super
                                              operants?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Kiri: they implode.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Kiri: so what we did was
                                              we brought her into tune
                                              and brought her together
                                              with her higher and middle
                                              self and we pushed the
                                              lower self down and we had
                                              a deva help.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 
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