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                 (Tia makes a
                        comparison between the morals of the third
                        dimension and the morals of the sixth dimension
                        from what she has seen from her observations.
                        Things like jealousy for example destroying a
                        3rd dimensional relationship where it isn’t a
                        factor in higher dimensions. A lot has to do
                        with the past lives you can remember sharing
                        with the person.)
 
 
 (Tia says
                                                    hi in Durondedunn)
 
 Tia: okay
                                                  Russ........tonight,
                                                  October the 14th 1997,
                                                  approximately 20:30
                                                  hrs. correct?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: okay, first of
                                                  all let us get down to
                                                  a brief dissertation
                                                  and brief I mean brief
                                                  on my pet subject
                                                  which is
                                                  morals......and
                                                  scruples and the
                                                  difference between
                                                  higher morals and
                                                  third dimensional
                                                  morals. And being a
                                                  third dimensional
                                                  evolved being that I
                                                  supposedly am, I
                                                  formulated some of my
                                                  own morals which we’ve
                                                  covered in the past
                                                  but looking at current
                                                  morals on your planet
                                                  and the moral
                                                  degradation that I’m
                                                  watching and seeing
                                                  and comments of Russ
                                                  and more people are
                                                  hitting a nudie site
                                                  than hitting the Hades
                                                  Base News. And this in
                                                  itself brought a
                                                  fascinating thought
                                                  that I’m still trying
                                                  to understand and that
                                                  is the preoccupation
                                                  with sex and how that
                                                  interplays in the
                                                  moral growth and how
                                                  degradating it can be
                                                  to individuals, both
                                                  male and female. The
                                                  fact that female
                                                  sexuality and nudity
                                                  seems to be more
                                                  explored than male
                                                  sexuality or
                                                  homosexuality except
                                                  for in the case of
                                                  women which for some
                                                  reason men find so
                                                  fascinating. First of
                                                  all let me preface
                                                  this by saying on
                                                  higher dimensions,
                                                  sexuality is first of
                                                  all done by consenting
                                                  people. It's done for
                                                  pleasure, there’s
                                                  nothing dirty or cheap
                                                  or nasty about it
                                                  whatsoever, it’s all
                                                  very tasteful and
                                                  seems to be an
                                                  expression of not only
                                                  self-love and love for
                                                  the other person but
                                                  love for the group as
                                                  a whole. For example
                                                  when two people are in
                                                  their most intimate
                                                  mode, two people that
                                                  love each other dearly
                                                  and have shared many
                                                  past lives together,
                                                  that in itself is an
                                                  expression of purest
                                                  love but when it is
                                                  two strangers that are
                                                  enjoying an intimate
                                                  moment of pleasure
                                                  between them, it is a
                                                  gift of thank you from
                                                  one person to another
                                                  and a exchanging of
                                                  intimate patterns on a
                                                  group level even
                                                  though it is two
                                                  individuals. So it
                                                  doesn’t matter if it’s
                                                  female male, it's an
                                                  expression of love for
                                                  the group, or male
                                                  male or female female,
                                                  that is all an
                                                  expression of love and
                                                  understanding and joy
                                                  and happiness and
                                                  release for the whole
                                                  entire group even
                                                  though as I said it is
                                                  just two people or
                                                  three people or
                                                  however many people
                                                  are involved. However,
                                                  on the third dimension
                                                  on your planet it
                                                  seems that there are
                                                  so many different
                                                  factors that come into
                                                  play in the sexual act
                                                  and it can be turned
                                                  and twisted and used
                                                  in a different way. It
                                                  can be used as an
                                                  escape, it seems to be
                                                  used as a power trip,
                                                  it seems to be used to
                                                  make people feel
                                                  better about
                                                  themselves, it seems
                                                  to be used to.....come
                                                  up with a interesting
                                                  expression......used
                                                  to get one’s bangs.
                                                  Very strange
                                                  expression that but it
                                                  is a third dimensional
                                                  Earth expression. And
                                                  it seems to me that I
                                                  can’t call it
                                                  lovemaking because
                                                  it’s not, sex the act,
                                                  the desire, lust is
                                                  a.......I can't think
                                                  of the correct words
                                                  but that in itself,
                                                  the act of using it
                                                  for all those things
                                                  that I mentioned for
                                                  lust, for
                                                  self-gratification,
                                                  for a power trip, for
                                                  getting bangs,
                                                  whatever, in itself
                                                  opens up a whole list
                                                  of moral dilemmas and
                                                  possibilities. And the
                                                  feeling of she’s mine,
                                                  he’s mine is a
                                                  interesting dilemma
                                                  that when my man goes
                                                  off and has sex with
                                                  another woman, and I’m
                                                  speaking as if I was
                                                  on your planet in a
                                                  third dimensional
                                                  level, I have to get
                                                  jealous, upset and can
                                                  I trust him? And that
                                                  is another part right
                                                  there, trust. In a
                                                  more evolved
                                                  environment you don’t
                                                  need that trust to
                                                  have somebody race
                                                  off, make love, have
                                                  sex, get their bangs,
                                                  whatever you want to
                                                  call it and then
                                                  wonder if they're
                                                  going to come back to
                                                  you because on a
                                                  higher level you know
                                                  that they're going to
                                                  come back, you know
                                                  that they are enjoying
                                                  themselves, they are
                                                  fulfilling a need not
                                                  only for them but for
                                                  the other person
                                                  because it is mutual.
                                                  There is no such thing
                                                  on a higher
                                                  dimensional level as
                                                  rape, it is willing
                                                  and consensual with
                                                  both parties. But on a
                                                  third dimensional this
                                                  seems not to be the
                                                  case and this is a
                                                  conundrum to puzzle on
                                                  the evolutionary
                                                  advancement. The
                                                  jealousy factor, let’s
                                                  call it the jealousy
                                                  factor, why would
                                                  somebody feel jealous
                                                  about somebody else?
                                                  It’s because they
                                                  perceive them as their
                                                  mate, their property,
                                                  their friend, whatever
                                                  and the fact that
                                                  they're going off and
                                                  having fun and
                                                  enjoying themselves
                                                  with somebody else
                                                  seems to create
                                                  friction and dealing
                                                  with that fiction is
                                                  the first step. So, in
                                                  a third dimensional
                                                  environment, is it
                                                  worth having free
                                                  love? And the answer
                                                  and conclusion that
                                                  I've come to is no
                                                  except in certain
                                                  circumstances being
                                                  where the parties
                                                  involved are
                                                  spiritually advanced
                                                  to be aware that the
                                                  ramifications
                                                  involved. Behaving in
                                                  a sixth dimensional
                                                  way in the joining and
                                                  union in whatever
                                                  form. Okay,
                                                  dissertation done.
 
 Russ: okay, now we
                                                  understand that there
                                                  is no rape, there is
                                                  no real jealousy on a
                                                  higher dimensional
                                                  level….
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: but from a lower
                                                  dimensional level from
                                                  where I’m looking at
                                                  it, it almost seems
                                                  like it’s necessary
                                                  for our evolution at
                                                  this time.
 
 Tia: yes, that's what
                                                  I was trying to say.
 
 Russ: but why?
 
 Tia: why? To deal with
                                                  those emotions, to
                                                  deal with those
                                                  situations, how you
                                                  handle them is
                                                  all-important. From
                                                  what I’ve heard and
                                                  having whispered in my
                                                  ear is that you seem
                                                  to deal with those
                                                  situations very well
                                                  in your capacity but
                                                  your partners on the
                                                  other hand tend to get
                                                  very confused and
                                                  distraught by them and
                                                  causes all sorts of
                                                  problems.
 
 Russ: well the fact
                                                  that they're sharing
                                                  you with someone on a
                                                  higher dimension is a
                                                  little tough to deal
                                                  with sometimes.
 
 Tia: uh-huh. Yes, next
                                                  question?
 
 Russ: okay, basically
                                                  knowing that, knowing
                                                  that they deal with
                                                  things even if a third
                                                  dimensional girl that
                                                  they're jealous of but
                                                  have no reason to,
                                                  it’s almost the just
                                                  really problems that
                                                  you’re working out
                                                  from past lives with
                                                  them correct?
 
 Tia: correct.
 
 Russ: okay. Now why
                                                  doesn't that happen on
                                                  higher dimensions, why
                                                  don’t you have that
                                                  karma to work out?
 
 Tia: because we know
                                                  what our or they know
                                                  what their karmas are,
                                                  they know what
                                                  happened and why and
                                                  how it interplayed
                                                  over a long period of
                                                  time. It’s like
                                                  looking at a picture
                                                  and we use this
                                                  analogy over and over
                                                  again and focusing on
                                                  one small section,
                                                  that’s all you see but
                                                  when you step back and
                                                  look at the whole
                                                  entire picture you see
                                                  it as totally
                                                  different.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Tia: and that is how
                                                  it works with past
                                                  lives is you’re
                                                  looking at the whole
                                                  picture.
 
 Russ: I see, so in
                                                  another words you guys
                                                  kind of get together
                                                  for a couple drinks
                                                  and laugh about your
                                                  past lives?
 
 Tia: well yes, they
                                                  do.
 
 Russ: they do right,
                                                  that'd be kinda fun to
                                                  watch.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: I remember when
                                                  you got all jealous
                                                  and dah, dah, dah,
                                                  dah.
 
 Tia: yes, basically
                                                  from what I’ve seen.
 
 Russ: hmm, that must
                                                  be interesting to
                                                  enjoy.
 
 Tia: I should imagine
                                                  it would be.
 
 Russ: I can only
                                                  picture it, I can’t
                                                  see it for myself.
 
 Tia: I’ve seen it.
 
 Russ: okay. I don’t
                                                  have any other
                                                  questions to go over
                                                  on the subject for
                                                  now. Morals are always
                                                  just something you
                                                  have to accept
                                                  jealousy and rape and
                                                  all that stuff is just
                                                  a third dimensional
                                                  state of mind that
                                                  comes with the state
                                                  of the third
                                                  dimension.
 
 Tia: yeah.
 
 Russ: we agreed to be
                                                  here to learn these
                                                  lessons, well, we have
                                                  to accept how we
                                                  shaped our classroom.
 
 Tia: correct. Okay…….
 
 (Tia says goodbye in
                                                  Durondedunn)
 
 Russ: bye.
 
 
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