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                 (Karra explains how
                      her computer works and that being voice-activated,
                      it isn’t as easy as it sounds to operate. It is
                      pretty smart though as it reported to her my
                      disrespecting of its functions. The trick is
                      realizing its AI is closer to that of a professor
                      at some university.)
 
 
 Karra:
                                                  hello.
 
 Russ:
                                                  hi Karra.
 
 Karra:
                                                  greetings.
 
 Russ:
                                                  Karra this is Ann,
                                                  Ann, that's my love of
                                                  my life.
 
 Karra:
                                                  greetings Ann, I
                                                  know it does look
                                                  strange referring to
                                                  the host body. Okay,
                                                  first of all let me
                                                  answer questions. Do
                                                  you have any
                                                  questions?
 
 Ann:
                                                  not right now.
 
 Karra:
                                                  okay.
 
 Russ:
                                                  yeah, working on the
                                                  computer last night.
 
 Karra:
                                                  uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                  very strange setup, I
                                                  had to work a while to
                                                  get used to it.
 
 Karra:
                                                  strange in what way?
 
 Russ:
                                                  I kept wanting to type
                                                  my answers in,
                                                  questions in.
 
 Karra:
                                                  you don't need to do
                                                  that.
 
 Russ:
                                                  I know, that's what
                                                  strange about it.
 
 Karra:
                                                  of course, you
                                                  don't have voice
                                                  recognition on your
                                                  computers do you?
 
 Russ:
                                                  no, so I'm trying to
                                                  type stuff in and
                                                  going, "well I can't
                                                  type stuff in so that
                                                  won't work."
 
 Karra:
                                                  it's also a Sirian
                                                  keyboard.
 
 Russ:
                                                  yeah I know, that was
                                                  the other part that
                                                  threw me off.
 
 Karra:
                                                  you expect me to have
                                                  an English keyboard as
                                                  I barely read English?
 
 Russ:
                                                  and then the
                                                  computer's
                                                  interactive.
 
 Karra:
                                                  yes.
 
 Russ:
                                                  so it's working with
                                                  me on the answers and
                                                  it's like it's trying
                                                  to determine what
                                                  point I'm asking the
                                                  question from.......
 
 Karra:
                                                  uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                  and I'm trying to
                                                  formulate the question
                                                  in a way that it will
                                                  understand.
 
 Karra:
                                                  it's quite simple.
 
 Russ:
                                                  well it didn't like
                                                  the data I gave it, it
                                                  told me to reformat my
                                                  question and ask it
                                                  again.
 
 Karra:
                                                  you have to be precise
                                                  and accurate. If you
                                                  give it too many
                                                  variables, for
                                                  example......
 
 Russ:
                                                  I didn't give it
                                                  enough variables was
                                                  the problem.
 
 Karra:
                                                  well, that's also a
                                                  problem. If you sit
                                                  there and say,
                                                  "computer, I want
                                                  information on
                                                  digitalis." It would
                                                  give you all the
                                                  information that you
                                                  ever wanted to know
                                                  and some that you
                                                  didn't want
                                                  to know on digitalis.
                                                  It will give you its
                                                  common name, its Latin
                                                  name, its chemical
                                                          composition.
                                                          It will give
                                                          you the
                                                          history, the
                                                          genetics, the
                                                          biological
                                                          background, it
                                                          will be data
                                                          overload.
 
 Russ:
                                                          thank you.
 
 Karra:
                                                          if on the
                                                          other hand you
                                                          ask a
                                                          question, "I
                                                          would like to
                                                          know the genus
                                                          of digitalis
                                                          and relevant
                                                          information to
                                                          its effects on
                                                          angina." It
                                                          will tell you
                                                          the background
                                                          that you
                                                          requested and
                                                          the effects of
                                                          digitalis on
                                                          angina. Now if
                                                          you go the
                                                          other way and
                                                          say that, "I'm
                                                          requesting
                                                          information on
                                                          digitalis, I
                                                          need the
                                                          genetic
                                                          background and
                                                          interaction
                                                          with heart
                                                          palpitations
                                                          and angina in
                                                          connection
                                                          with the
                                                          chemicals that
                                                          are
                                                          derivatives
                                                          used in third
                                                          dimensional
                                                          earth medicine
                                                          on controlling
                                                          heart
                                                          problems."
 
 Russ:
                                                          you're going
                                                          to have fun
                                                          typing that
                                                          up.
 
 Ann:
                                                          yeah.
 
 (laughter
                                                          breaks out)
 
 Karra:
                                                          I apologize to
                                                          our scribe.
 
 Ann:
                                                          you may have
                                                          fun editing
                                                          it.
 
 Karra:
                                                          but by asking
                                                          that question,
                                                          you have given
                                                          it a very
                                                          narrow field
                                                          and
                                                          conflicting
                                                          field as well.
                                                          And the
                                                          computer will
                                                          ask you for
                                                          more
                                                          information or
                                                          say it's
                                                          unable to
                                                          comply. So
                                                          that will
                                                          create a
                                                          problem that
                                                          the computer
                                                          will have in
                                                          interacting
                                                          with you. You
                                                          have to ask
                                                          specific
                                                          questions but
                                                          they have to
                                                          be worded in a
                                                          way that is
                                                          understandable
                                                          by the
                                                          computer.
 
 Russ:
                                                          all right
                                                          because when I
                                                          tried to
                                                          access it to
                                                          ask it about
                                                          the
                                                          relationship
                                                          between the
                                                          Internet and
                                                          the
                                                          brain.......
 
 Karra:
                                                          uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                          it said
                                                          something
                                                          about cannot
                                                          comply, not
                                                          enough data
                                                          for answer. So
                                                          I had to
                                                          re.....
 
 Karra:
                                                          well you've
                                                          given
                                                          it........in
                                                          actual fact
                                                          you gave it
                                                          the opposite.
                                                          It could have
                                                          given you
                                                          information
                                                          overload but
                                                          the computer
                                                          is, my
                                                          computer is
                                                          set up in such
                                                          a way that you
                                                          have to ask
                                                          specific
                                                          questions. If
                                                          you asked
                                                          Tia's computer
                                                          which is
                                                          actually the
                                                          same one as
                                                          mine, the same
                                                          mainframe but
                                                          she has
                                                          different
                                                          specifications
                                                          on her
                                                          terminal. I
                                                          have mine
                                                          focused very
                                                          narrowly
                                                          because of
                                                          medical word
                                                          searches. For
                                                          example, let
                                                          us take
                                                          glandular
                                                          fever....."I
                                                          want
                                                          information on
                                                          glandular
                                                          fever." It
                                                          will give you
                                                          all your
                                                          glands and all
                                                          the relevant
                                                          fevers and how
                                                          they interact
                                                          and how each
                                                          fever
                                                          interacts with
                                                          each gland and
                                                          particular
                                                          illness. Guess
                                                          what you get?
                                                          You get about
                                                          a three hour
                                                          dissertation,
                                                          that's a waste
                                                          of time. So
                                                          let us say I
                                                          want
                                                          information
                                                          on......I'm
                                                          trying to
                                                          think of a
                                                          good gland
                                                          that would
                                                          give a good
                                                          example but
                                                          all the
                                                          answers I can
                                                          think of would
                                                          be too
                                                          long-winded at
                                                          this time and
                                                          too hard on
                                                          the poor
                                                          little fingers
                                                          for typing.
                                                          Okay, let us
                                                          say that I
                                                          want.....
 
 Russ:
                                                          thyroid.
 
 Karra:
                                                          thyroid, I
                                                          could give you
                                                          a dissertation
                                                          and a half on
                                                          that if you
                                                          want, Tia's
                                                          got a better
                                                          analogy. Tia
                                                          says that I
                                                          ask my
                                                          computer for
                                                          information on
                                                          Bill Clinton
                                                          from January
                                                          1rst, '97 to
                                                          January 7th,
                                                          '97. My
                                                          computer will
                                                          ask for more
                                                          detail on what
                                                          I'm looking
                                                          for. My
                                                          computer would
                                                          ask for
                                                          specific
                                                          topics or in
                                                          actual fact it
                                                          would say,
                                                          "unable to
                                                          comply, too
                                                          much
                                                          information or
                                                          too little
                                                          information."
                                                          So you have to
                                                          focus down on
                                                          to a narrowed
                                                          field. Let us
                                                          say I want
                                                          information on
                                                          Bill Clinton
                                                          from January
                                                          1rst, '97 to
                                                          January 5th,
                                                          '97 in
                                                          connections
                                                          with speeches
                                                          on foreign
                                                          policy of
                                                          Northern
                                                          Ireland
                                                          concerning
                                                          Sinn Fein. It
                                                          will scan all
                                                          his speeches
                                                          of that period
                                                          from the first
                                                          to the fifth.
                                                          It will scan
                                                          all the
                                                          references in
                                                          his speeches
                                                          of Northern
                                                          Ireland. It
                                                          would then
                                                          scan looking
                                                          for Sinn Fein
                                                          and it would
                                                          give me the
                                                          one speech
                                                          that he made
                                                          concerning it. Tia
                                                          says that
                                                          there weren't
                                                          any speeches
                                                          made at that
                                                          time about
                                                          Sinn Fein. So
                                                          by keying the
                                                          word searches
                                                          and wording
                                                          them in such a
                                                          way cuts down
                                                          on a lot of
                                                          time. Instead
                                                          of sitting
                                                          there and
                                                          giving a
                                                          dissertation
                                                          like you tend
                                                          to do Russ, it
                                                          will give the
                                                          computer
                                                          something to
                                                          mull over and
                                                          it can give
                                                          you a lot of
                                                          information.
                                                          But on the
                                                          other hand, if
                                                          you say you
                                                          want
                                                          information on
                                                          Bill Clinton
                                                          and Sinn Fein,
                                                          again it could
                                                          give you too
                                                          much
                                                          information.
 
 Russ:
                                                          or I would
                                                          override. Well
                                                          as it turned
                                                          out, we got
                                                          along quite
                                                          famously after
                                                          that.
 
 Karra:
                                                          uh-huh, it's a
                                                          matter of
                                                          learning that.
 
 Russ:
                                                          yeah, I just
                                                          basically
                                                          started
                                                          wording it
                                                          more toward a
                                                          specific topic
                                                          of the brain
                                                          or the
                                                          Internet or
                                                          the two.
 
 Karra:
                                                          you have to
                                                          specify
                                                          exactly what
                                                          you want.
 
 Russ:
                                                          I need to take
                                                          a break on
                                                          this tape for
                                                          a second, we
                                                          have a
                                                          strange.....
 
 (the
                                                          tape restarts)
 
 Karra:
                                                          I'm not really
                                                          good at
                                                          answering
                                                          questions like
                                                          that. I try to
                                                          do the best I
                                                          can. Omal's
                                                          much better.
                                                          Okay, any more
                                                          questions?
 
 Russ:
                                                          that's good
                                                          for me. I mean
                                                          it's basically
                                                          we're working
                                                          on your
                                                          computer I
                                                          think would be
                                                          the topic of
                                                          that
                                                          particular
                                                          session there.
                                                          Anything you
                                                          would like to
                                                          add to it?
 
 Karra:
                                                          patience.
 
 Russ:
                                                          all right.
 
 Karra:
                                                          next time you
                                                          call my
                                                          computer a
                                                          stupid
                                                          computer........
 
 Russ:
                                                          did I say
                                                          that?
 
 Karra:
                                                          uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                          oh. It's
                                                          probably just
                                                          that point
                                                          just after
                                                          that first
                                                          question. Oh I
                                                          did, didn't I?
                                                          Yeah, I was a
                                                          little
                                                          frustrated.
 
 Karra:
                                                          yes, my
                                                          computer tells
                                                          me everything.
 
 Russ:
                                                          well I mean it
                                                          was a good
                                                          learning
                                                          experience for
                                                          me in the fact
                                                          that it was
                                                          the first time
                                                          I've sat down
                                                          and actually
                                                          worked with
                                                          it.
 
 Karra:
                                                          yes a learning
                                                          experience
                                                          hmmm, don't
                                                          have many of
                                                          those do we
                                                          Russ?
 
 Russ: oh once
                                                          a day, once a
                                                          day.
 
 Karra:
                                                          oh, once a day
                                                          only? Okay.
 
 Russ:
                                                          bye love.
 
 
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