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                 (Tia in a discussion on
                            government explains what the goal of Ashtar
                            Command's help is and how a website such as
                            this one serves to achieve that goal
                            separate from the main site of the Hades
                            Base News. By presenting
                      the relevant lessons from the channeling sessions
                      separate of the irrelevant chit chat, the lessons
                      become easier for the visitors to the site to
                      understand.)
 
 
 Russ:
                                                      now back to my
                                                      original question.
 
 Tia:
                                                      uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                      even those people
                                                      who don’t have the
                                                      preparedness,
                                                      let’s say they’ve
                                                      never seen our
                                                      webpage, they
                                                      don’t have any
                                                      clue of what’s
                                                      going on which is
                                                      a vast majority of
                                                      the people on the
                                                      planet, don’t
                                                      they at some point
                                                      become aware and
                                                      learn the same
                                                      things we’re going
                                                      to learn?
 
 Tia:
                                                      yes eventually,
                                                      eventually but in
                                                      the meantime you
                                                      have to explain it
                                                      to them in a
                                                      different way
                                                      where they will
                                                      understand it. You
                                                      see it’s not just a thousand people
                                                      that have been to
                                                      your webpage
                                                      right?
 
 Russ:
                                                      right.
 
 Tia:
                                                      it is a thousand people
                                                      that have been
                                                      there plus the
                                                      people they have
                                                      told. They may
                                                      have told two,
                                                      three people so
                                                      it’s no longer a
                                                      thousand, you’re
                                                      talking 4,000 and
                                                      maybe that 4,000
                                                      has talked to
                                                      another thousand
                                                      so that’s 5,000
                                                      people that do not
                                                      have access but
                                                      are aware. So you
                                                      have to lay it out
                                                      in such a way that
                                                      it is plain, no
                                                      reference of
                                                      spirituality
                                                      right?
 
 Russ:
                                                      right.
 
 Tia:
                                                      so that they can
                                                      understand it and
                                                      process it and go,
                                                      “huh”. You see
                                                      what I’m saying?
 
 Russ:
                                                      right and all
                                                      I can see is that
                                                      everything that is
                                                      going to happen is
                                                      supposed to
                                                      happen.
 
 Tia:
                                                      yeah, we’ve
                                                      covered that and we've
                                                      explained that but
                                                      we’re helping them
                                                      to look at the
                                                      options, to give
                                                      them
                                                      a.....…they're at a junction
                                                      right?
 
 Russ:
                                                      uh-huh.
 
 Tia:
                                                      which road do they
                                                      take? Let’s say
                                                      the palm of Mark’s
                                                      hand here is the
                                                      main road right?
 
 Russ:
                                                      right.
 
 Tia:
                                                      and these are all
                                                      the alternate
                                                      roads right?
 
 Russ:
                                                      five fingers.
 
 Tia:
                                                      yeah. Okay, only
                                                      one of these roads
                                                      leads in the right
                                                      way, we’ve
                                                      got to point them
                                                      without
                                                      interfering to the
                                                      one that leads
                                                      down the right
                                                      road.
 
 Russ:
                                                      correct.
 
 Tia:
                                                      so we have to word
                                                      it so they’ll
                                                      understand it and
                                                      make them think
                                                      and increase their
                                                      chances of picking
                                                      the right road. If
                                                      they don’t pick
                                                      the right road,
                                                      it’s going to be
                                                      longer for them.
                                                      You see, we’re
                                                      caught in a very
                                                      unique position
                                                      that we have to
                                                      choose whether or
                                                      not we interfere
                                                      totally by saying,
                                                      “no, you’re going
                                                      in the wrong
                                                      direction, this is
                                                      what you have to
                                                      do.” Or by staying
                                                      out and supplying
                                                      information but
                                                      having the
                                                      information
                                                      pointing in the
                                                      direction that
                                                      they need to go.
 
 Russ:
                                                      but at the same
                                                      time a person out
                                                      of those five
                                                      fingers let’s say
                                                      is shown the right
                                                      path.
 
 Tia:
                                                      uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                      saying, "these
                                                      other four aren’t
                                                      going to work"
                                                      okay?
                                                      “This middle path
                                                      here that you pick
                                                      or that is there
                                                      open to you is the
                                                      right path.”
 
 Tia:
                                                      yeah.
 
 Russ:
                                                      which would be in
                                                      your case the
                                                      interference
                                                      you’re talking
                                                      about.
 
 Tia:
                                                      that’s right.
 
 Russ:
                                                      okay, now the
                                                      person has a
                                                      choice at that
                                                      point to follow
                                                      that path......
 
 Tia:
                                                      uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                      or not. They also
                                                      have a choice on
                                                      whether following
                                                      that path, they
                                                      stay on the path
                                                      or whether they
                                                      diverge off of it.
 
 Tia:
                                                      uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                      odds of them
                                                      actually going
                                                      along with your
                                                      suggestion and
                                                      following that
                                                      path to its very
                                                      end without
                                                      divergence is
                                                      small in the first
                                                      place.
 
 Tia:
                                                      but it’s a chance
                                                      we have to take.
 
 Russ:
                                                      correct so the
                                                      interference that
                                                      you talk about is
                                                      actually really
                                                      only guidance and
                                                      a person has the
                                                      free will to
                                                      decide whether
                                                      they wish to
                                                      choose to be
                                                      guided or whether
                                                      they want to do it
                                                      on their own.
 
 Tia:
                                                      yes and no, yes
                                                      and no. The yes
                                                      part is, yes they
                                                      do have free will
                                                      but if you stack
                                                      the information in
                                                      such a way right?
                                                      It takes away that
                                                      free will. For
                                                          example,
                                                          getting back
                                                          to your
                                                          newspapers and
                                                          your
                                                          communication
                                                          devices right?
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Tia:
                                                          they want Bill
                                                          Clinton.
 
 Russ:
                                                          correct.
 
 Tia:
                                                          they report
                                                          only 25% of
                                                          what Mr. Dole
                                                          actually says
                                                          and of that
                                                          25% that they
                                                          report they
                                                          take all the
                                                          negative.
 
 Russ:
                                                          okay.
 
 Tia:
                                                          okay, which
                                                          does what?
 
 Russ:
                                                          well it puts a
                                                          distinctly
                                                          negative slant
                                                          on things.
 
 Tia:
                                                          exactly.
                                                          Anything
                                                          possibly
                                                          negative they
                                                          report and set
                                                          up in a way
                                                          that would
                                                          point people
                                                          in a direction
                                                          to vote for
                                                          Clinton.
 
 Russ:
                                              but Tia, we talk about
                                              this every week okay? But
                                              the point of fact is that
                                              we are……there is nothing
                                              that’s going to change
                                              from what is going to
                                              happen now than what is
                                              different from what you
                                              are talking about. In two
                                              weeks the same president
                                              is going to be reelected.
 
 Tia:
                                              uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                              okay? Everything that
                                              we’re talking about
                                              doesn’t matter due to the
                                              fact that……
 
 Tia:
                                              it does matter, it does
                                              matter. That is the reason
                                              why things are going the
                                              way that they are, the
                                              words that you just said
                                              explain a lot. It doesn’t
                                              matter, it does matter.
 
 Russ:
                                              why? Because we can change
                                              it?
 
 Tia:
                                              yes.
 
 Russ:
                                              how?
 
 Tia:
                                              by getting people
                                              motivated, getting people
                                              prepared. That’s what
                                              we’re trying to do with
                                              the webpage is to get them
                                              prepared.
 
 Russ:
                                              which is what we’re doing.
 
 Tia:
                                              uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                              well we’re not going to
                                              change the fact that a kid
                                              going to school with
                                              aspirin is going to get
                                              less than a person going
                                              to school with a firearm.
 
 Tia:
                                              you have to put the morals
                                              in.
 
 Russ:
                                              in two years?
 
 Tia:
                                              in two years you could
                                              build the building blocks.
 
 Russ:
                                              with the webpage?
 
 Tia:
                                              well, with a small
                                              nucleus, maybe that small
                                              nucleus will help. A
                                              little crack in the dam or
                                              a little drop of rain
                                              fills that lake out there,
                                              a little drop at a time
                                              (Lake Tahoe). That’s what
                                              you’re trying to do is you
                                              have a big open hole the
                                              ground and you want to
                                              fill it with water, you
                                              have to do it a drop at a
                                              time.
 
 Russ:
                                              right.
 
 Tia:
                                              okay so you’ve had your
                                              webpage how long? Six
                                              months?
 
 Russ:
                                              not quite.
 
 Tia:
                                              okay, let us say six
                                              months.
 
 Russ:
                                              all right, let's say six
                                              months.
 
 Tia:
                                              okay, how many people have
                                              visited that in that time?
 
 Russ:
                                              about a thousand.
 
 Tia:
                                              okay now, how long do we
                                              have left?
 
 Russ:
                                              two years.
 
 Tia:
                                              two years which is 24
                                              months okay. Now, that
                                              thousand that has visited
                                              your webpage in the past
                                              six months right?
 
 Russ:
                                              uh-huh.
 
 Tia:
                                              has told 4,000 people in
                                              total right? So that’s
                                              5,000 people right?
                                              Multiply that by four, how
                                              many’s that?
 
 Russ:
                                              20,000.
 
 Tia:
                                              no, yeah 20,000. That’s
                                              20,000 people and how’s he
                                              getting in?
 
 (talking
                                              about one of the house
                                              cats)
 
 Tia: is there a door open
                                              downstairs?
 
 Russ:
                                              no I closed it.
 
 Tia:
                                              well he’s got rain on him
                                              and he’s wet.
 
 Russ:
                                              you got me. Coming in from
                                              the garage maybe?
 
 (Tia
                                              speaks to the cat in
                                              Durondedunn)
 
 Tia:
                                              okay.
 
 Russ:
                                              all right now we’re
                                              assuming that this 20,000
                                              is actually taking place.
 
 Tia:
                                              uh-huh, assuming.
 
 Russ:
                                              assuming. Okay, now with
                                              what we’re doing here,
                                              okay we are preparing
                                              people for the future
                                              correct?
 
 Tia:
                                              uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                              all right. So what we’re
                                              doing is in essence
                                              preparing them for
                                              after-the-fact, there’s
                                              not a lot that can be done
                                              to change the fact.
 
 Tia:
                                              no, what’s going to happen
                                              is going to happen.
 
 Russ:
                                              right, we've discussed
                                              that.
 
 Tia:
                                              but, yes we’ve discussed
                                              it many times but you can
                                              minimize what is going on
                                              by setting up various
                                              plans. I’m not saying you
                                              tell them how things are
                                              going to be, this is how
                                              they do it, blah, blah,
                                              blah, blah. What I’m
                                              saying is that you plan to
                                              push them in a particular
                                              way. These individuals
                                              that check out your page
                                              have morals right?
 
 Russ:
                                              uh-huh.
 
 Tia:
                                              but they're so fed up with
                                              people battering down
                                              their morals right? That
                                              they’re almost giving up.
                                              Your page is basically
                                              patting them on the back
                                              and saying that they’re
                                              doing a good job and their
                                              morals are worth keeping.
                                              Don’t give up. Basically
                                              what the webpage is, is a
                                              bright light in a dark
                                              gloom.
 
 Russ:
                                              I agree.
 
 Tia:
                                              okay....
 
 (says
                                                something to the cat in
                                                the room in Durondedunn)
 
 Tia: now
                                              I’ve got to put on the
                                              next person.
 
 Russ:
                                              okay.
 
 
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