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                 (Tia lists a number of things
                            that she was gathering to present in a
                            report to the Council of 12 where a raise to
                            a level two defcon was soon to be announced.
                            We cover all over the globe and not just in
                            the United States.)
 
 
 Russ: hi Tia.
 
 (Tia says hi in
                                          Durondedunn)
 
 Tia: I can't
                                          stay too long, I’m real busy
                                          tonight, I’ve got to go back
                                          to my office. First of all, be
                                          prepared for a communiqué.
 
 Russ:
                                          communiqué.
 
 Tia: okay now
                                          the reason why I may be
                                          releasing a communiqué and
                                          I’ve been in a lot of meetings
                                          recently and you'll have to
                                          excuse me thinking and talking
                                          fast. Okay we have had
                                          earthquakes in Taiwan, we've
                                          had rioting in East Timor,
                                          we've had problems in
                                          Malaysia, we've had
                                          earthquakes in Turkey, we've
                                          had stock markets continuing
                                          on a downward slide, what do
                                          all things add up to?
 
 Russ: possible
                                          defcon alert.
 
 Tia: that is
                                          correct.
 
 Russ: or
                                          upgrade.
 
 Tia: which
                                          would take us to defcon two.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: all these
                                          things are happening
                                          externally to your country
                                          except for the stock market
                                          keeps on sliding. What is
                                          going on is a moment for
                                          us......we have been teetering
                                          on the edge of declaring a defcon two
                                          for the past three days.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Tia: okay, this
                                          is nothing negative for your
                                          localized area, this is a
                                          worldwide alert because of all
                                          the things going on in other
                                          places. Most of them are in
                                          what you call developing
                                          country areas which at the
                                          moment is something that is
                                          stopping us from announcing
                                          that defcon two
                                          level but if they continue to
                                          occur, such things as
                                          hurricanes, riots, mass
                                          killings, sliding in the
                                          market, you have had within
                                          the space of three weeks,
                                          you’ve had…..
 
 Russ:
                                          encephalitis breakout in New
                                          York.
 
 Tia: you've had
                                          some major occurrences. You've
                                          had major earthquakes in
                                          Taiwan, you've had major
                                          earthquakes in Turkey, you've
                                          had major
                                          earthquakes......there's
                                          somewhere else recently but
                                          you've had bomb blasts in the
                                          Soviet Union, you've had
                                          warfare breaking out in
                                          Dagestan and Chechnya. You’ve
                                          had military attacks, you've
                                          had hurricanes, you’ve had
                                          volcanic activities, you've
                                          had a lot of things going on
                                          in the space of three weeks.
 
 Skip: shooting
                                          rampages.
 
 Russ: shooting
                                          rampages.
 
 Tia: shooting
                                          rampages, you’ve had many
                                          negative events occurring.
                                          This is nothing to do with the
                                          turn of the millennium.
 
 Russ: oh it’s
                                          not?
 
 Tia: the
                                          millennium turns in another
                                          year and 90 days thereabouts.
                                          What is going on is normal,
                                          natural phenomenons that are
                                          occurring close together
                                          unfortunately. The natural
                                          phenomenons, they happen from
                                          time to time in a space like
                                          that. The fighting's and so on
                                          are not anything to do with
                                          the turn of the millennium or
                                          the supposed turn the
                                          millennium in 90 days which is
                                          a misnomer and inaccurate.
                                          What they are to do with is
                                          religious problems. To start
                                          off with the problem in
                                          Chechnya and Dagestan, I sided
                                          with the rebels, I was
                                          incorrect in this, I want to
                                          clear that up right now.
                                          Having done more research and
                                          studied it in closer detail,
                                          I’m now siding with the
                                          government. The actual people
                                          that are creating the fighting
                                          are a very small minority that
                                          believe it is their right to
                                          force their will on the
                                          majority. To give you an idea
                                          on how small this minority is,
                                          you’re talking less than 1%,
                                          less than 1% is creating the
                                          current problem. So anybody
                                          that complains that the poor
                                          rebels are being picked upon
                                          and hurt is incorrect. They’re
                                          not rebels, they're
                                          terrorists, they are forcing
                                          their will on other people. Is
                                          that the action of a rebel, is
                                          that the action of a religious
                                          sect? No, that is the actions
                                          of terrorists. They're
                                          bandits, they’re using
                                          religion as a tool for their
                                          own ends. The reason why I
                                          sound strongly vehement in
                                          that is the fact that I
                                          goofed. I made a mistake in my
                                          judgment but I am correcting
                                          that now and anger is not
                                          directed at them or directed
                                          at the government, it is anger
                                          at myself for making that
                                          mistake, a foolish mistake.
                                          Okay do we have any questions?
 
 Skip: well
                                          would that terrorist action
                                          exist in the bombings in
                                          Russia also?
 
 Tia: that is
                                          correct.
 
 Skip: okay.
 
 Tia: that is
                                          the action of terrorists.
                                          Okay, next question.
 
 Russ: well East
                                          Timor is a....that’s a
                                          political problem there.
 
 Tia: that’s
                                          correct.
 
 Russ: but now
                                          what do you see as the
                                          possible outcome out of all
                                          this independence that's being
                                          forced upon Indonesia for that
                                          particular area?
 
 Tia: I see it
                                          as a very dangerous move.
                                          Certainly the majority of the
                                          people thought that it was the
                                          right move, certainly the
                                          government of Indonesia felt
                                          that it was a wrong move, both
                                          parties in this case were at
                                          fault.......
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Tia: for the
                                          simple reason East Timor
                                          cannot survive without
                                          Indonesia, Indonesia can
                                          survive without East Timor but
                                          it is wrong for them to force
                                          their will on the majority of
                                          the people in that area even
                                          though the majority in actual
                                          fact is a minority of
                                          Indonesia. They gave them the
                                          opportunity to vote for their
                                          independence, they voted for
                                          it and unfortunately they made
                                          a choice which was harmful and
                                          innocent people were hurt. So
                                          it is something that both
                                          parties are at fault. That’s
                                          something I’m keeping out of
                                          but I'm watching carefully.
                                          Next question.
 
 Skip: no.
 
 Russ: okay,
                                          we’re just entering into the
                                          hurricane season now, we're
                                          also entering into a point
                                          where the interest rates are
                                          being looked at as being
                                          rising soon.
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: that
                                          along with another earthquake
                                          that could possibly strike
                                          anywhere along that Pacific
                                          rim area that’s already
                                          building up we could see a
                                          defcon alert pretty quick then
                                          because of all that?
 
 Tia: and that
                                          is quite possible. In fact
                                          when I leave here I’m going
                                          back to a meeting, I’m going
                                          back to a meeting with the
                                          Council of 12 where we’re
                                          going to sit down and discuss
                                          it. That’s where Omal went.
 
 Russ: okay one
                                          last question is......
 
 Tia: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: on the
                                          earthquakes in the Pacific
                                          rim, we’ve had one major one
                                          in Turkey and one major one in
                                          Taiwan, hasn’t that relieved a
                                          lot of stresses on that
                                          particular plates and we might
                                          not see anything for a while?
 
 Tia: they’re
                                          not connected to the Pacific
                                          plate. The one in Turkey is
                                          the European plate, the one in
                                          Taiwan is on the……..oh what’s
                                          that?
 
 Russ: it’s not
                                          the Japanese plate?
 
 Tia: yet it’s
                                          on the Japanese plate that’s
                                          not on your side however, not
                                          being fully versed on the
                                          theory behind it I can assume
                                          that even though it’s released
                                          pressure in that area, that
                                          the movement is building up
                                          pressure elsewhere. Where I
                                          don't know.
 
 Skip: oh okay.
 
 Russ: tectonics
                                          or something I'll have to look
                                          into myself.
 
 Skip: I was
                                          going ask.
 
 Tia: now if it
                                          slides gently than that is not
                                          a problem, I really don’t
                                          know, I’m not a……
 
 Skip: because
                                          it couldn’t be building up
                                          pressure on this side of the
                                          Pacific
 
 Tia: uh-huh or
                                          it could be building up
                                          pressure further along down
                                          there. Anyway, anymore
                                          questions?
 
 Skip: no honey.
 
 Tia: okay, I've
                                          got to go.
 
 Skip: thank you
 
 Russ: thanks
                                          Tia.
 
 Tia: I can’t
                                          take his body with me can I?
 
 (we both laugh)
 
 Skip: good
                                          night sweetheart.
 
 
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