(Karra discusses the eventual purpose of the conference should it succeed. This is the one channeling session where we hear the sixth dimensional Earth mentioned and she speculates that when enough souls were ready to be ascended it would be ready for them. As it is, they would just ascend to another world in the sixth dimension otherwise logically.) 

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Karra: okay. Okay let us start discussing things. The idea of bringing Leonedies in...Daniel in was that it is needed to keep the discussions going. Yes I was a little optimistic on the date for setting everything up, maybe other individuals that are receptive that do not have a sympathy one way or the other way but has the best interest of your species. It would be necessary to set up a kind of questionnaire but it would have to be one that would be acceptable to all species involved within the discussions. Let us get this out of the way first before we go into more joyous matters.

Skip: darling question.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: you're saying setting this up and picking and choosing or recommending whichever…who are you having in mind to form this particular committee to choose and pick the people or candidates for this?

Karra: we don’t have anybody in mind because we’re trying to minimize our influence with your species as much as possible so that you decide yourselves. We cannot tell you who the ideal people are.

Skip: okay that’s fine but I understand that you can’t infer your influence, I understand that but we're only two or three individuals in a whole planet.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: for some reason or another, the concept of doing this is getting away from me or it’s out of my comprehension.

Karra: I see the problem that you’re having is that you're trying to figure out how is it going to be set up with your species.

Skip: yeah, correct.

Karra: okay, what is being looked at and is hoped is that people that are at a spiritual point in their life that know that there is another level are the ones that are candidates for the discussions to be involved for the re-birthing of your species on a higher level, on the sixth dimension which is something that will happen naturally at the end of an individual's cycle when they're ready. The best way to describe it is that when an individual departs and they are being reborn and they are ready for the sixth dimensional life, they will be reborn on the sixth dimension or they will be held until there is enough individuals, this is up to them, I’m speculating I must add that....there will be enough individuals available to have a healthy community on the sixth dimensional earth.

Skip: okay but I understand where you’re coming from but to get back to this. What I see happening is probably more than a million candidates to come into this particular realm of being chosen, picked, qualified or whatever to be the spokesman for our planet. You understand where I’m coming from?

Karra: oh I understand and I understand the concerns that you’re having that such a small group, having so much power and influence…

Skip: no, no, no, I’m not worried about the group, what comes down to the....what did we figure, 4 to 8 people being chosen as representatives of our planet?

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip; what’s bothering me is who or how the peoples of our planet are going to sort out them 4 to 8 people to represent us.

Karra: I think it’s more of a matter of holding back those that aren't suited because I believe there’s going to be a lot of people that will want the job that have their own personal interests…..

Skip: yeah I understand that too.

Karra: and their own personal agendas. To use a quote and I don’t know where it comes from, "the person least, the person best suited for the position is somebody that actually doesn’t want it but will take it on upon themselves and do the best that they can." Those are the candidates that actually are more suited than those that want it. Those that want it are actually the least suited.

Skip: they’ve got ulterior motives.

Karra: correct.

Russ: well Skip, your number of a million is fairly optimistic. If we were to take and put the questionnaire here that Karra mentions into Spirit Web and to ask everybody who’s on Spirit Web and most of those folks are along the same lines we are to go ahead and put in the question, fill out the questionnaire and send it back to us so that all the races can review that person, at best you'll get a hundred questionnaires returned.

Skip: no that’s not what was bothering me Russ. We're only looking at one facet of this, just one facet and you’re looking at a 20 carat diamond that’s got so many facets it’s ridiculous.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: because you’re talking about a whole world, you're not talking about just one area.

Karra: you’re talking about the whole planet.

Russ: well we can’t really involve the whole planet because we can get that much information access to the whole planet.

Skip: yeah we do.

Russ: to everybody on the planet?

Skip: to the people that are spiritually aware, yes all over the world.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: even though we're connected with Spirit Web and the Internet, how many people are we connected with in the Spirit Web and I know that I would say probably 50% of them are not spiritually aware, they're just in there to bullshit, excuse my French.

Karra: oh…

Russ: excused, no problem.

Skip: okay, so they have no concept of what we're talking about, they’re just in there to rap their jaws at everybody else.

Karra: uh-huh and Skip is quite correct but I would say that the other 50% are the ones that go to other spiritual chat places, other spiritual chat rooms and maybe they contact 50% of the other chat rooms. And I would actually drop it down to 40% are spiritually aware and active but those 40% contact 40% elsewhere and 40% elsewhere, it’s like one person telling ten.

Skip: because you’re asking an awful lot of a person.

Karra: oh yes.

Skip: I mean this is a hell of a big challenge for anybody.

Karra: oh it is, it is a very much a very big challenge but the benefits that will come are so incredible. The best way to describe it is you're betting everything that you have on a horse to win.

Skip: yeah but it’s pretty hard to put your faith into one person to represent the whole planet when you can't even put your faith in a person to represent your country.

Karra: I know, I watched that with interest and Russ and myself had some interesting discussions.

Skip: you know that’s a tough one.

Karra: uh-huh, well that’s why we think that a committee or not a committee but a group of individuals between 4 and 8 is ideally suited because there would be enough conflicts between them to…

Skip: to keep each other honest.

Karra: correct which is very, very important.

Skip: yes they have to.

Karra: it is even better if they are antagonistic to each other because if they agree on one thing, that is good because that one thing is important then. If they fight and fight over different things and agree on one item, then that is the important item.

Skip: that’s scary, it’s scary.

Karra: oh it is. The way that it looks like it's setting up is that the conflict within the group representing your planet is very necessary to be able to form a united front and to have an interest of your species.

skip: rather than somebody's own personal interest.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: clarification please, now we have a 4 to 8 person committee that you are talking about and we have channels for the representatives for the various species correct? So we're talking about a total of perhaps 16 people?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: roughly 12 to 16 people?

Skip: uh-huh.

Russ: that we're talking about. Now the channels themselves, we're not going to have a lot of leeway on who we can get since the species themselves really only channel through........well they could channel through anybody but unfortunately only a few people on the planet are actually channeling and….

Skip: have that talent yeah.

Russ: accessing themselves on the Internet and make the information available for people to track down like myself.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: yeah.

Russ: so, my suggestion is we set up a separate webpage designed to attract those people who we can then work through, we explain the conference, like a whole conference webpage separate from the Hades Base News.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that is based on what we're looking for or what is needed for the conference I should say and people to respond with their ideas, their applications let’s say, their resumes, spiritual resumes, I’m just making this up as I go and go looking for channels to represent the species.

Karra: let me say that we will be getting a visitation again from Monka and various other high officials in Ashtar Command that will make themselves available. They will not tell you anything, you will ask them and they will answer the questions in a way that, well I'm not too sure what their way is but we're expecting them sometime in the first quarter of next year.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, any more questions for me?

Russ: no, I’m set.

Karra: I need to go and deal with.........

Russ: that’s got my head going now anyways so.

Skip: that’s why I was rapping as much as I was because it's just very.....

Karra: well any questions or comments that you have are greatly appreciated.

Russ: well it's a good little line we're going off on now that we really needed to go on that I hadn't really thought of until we brought it up so.

Karra: voice any concerns that you have Skip.

Russ: absolutely.

Karra: okay, I’m off, I need to go and deal with something.

Skip: okay.

Russ: okay, have fun dear.

Skip: thank you.