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                 (In what seems like
                      a follow-up to Omal’s discussion on the photon
                      cloud, he now updates our planet’s passage through
                      after over a year. We also cover the ozone layer
                      and its effects as we move on the weather patterns
                      that are related to a great combination of factors
                      such as solar events and space events. Some of the
                      significant events he mentions are related to
                      Atlantis, the Incas and ancient Rome.)
 
 
 Omal:
                                                          okay, let us
                                                          progress, let
                                                          us answer more
                                                          questions
                                                          please.
 
 Russ:
                                                          okay, you
                                                          mentioned the
                                                          photon cloud
                                                          and that's
                                                          something that
                                                          we haven’t
                                                          really dealt
                                                          with in a long
                                                          time but it’s
                                                          something since you
                                                          brought it up, worthy
                                                          to explore just
                                                          a little bit.
 
 Omal:
                                                          okay.
 
 Russ:
                                                          at that time
                                                          when we last
                                                          discussed it
                                                          we were on the
                                                          fringes of it
                                                          and it’s been
                                                          approximately
                                                          about a year
                                                          since then
                                                          that we
                                                          discussed it….
 
 Omal:
                                                          uh-huh.
 
 Russ:
                                                          and I’m
                                                          curious as to
                                                          how much of
                                                          that cloud are
                                                          we starting to
                                                          really fully
                                                          get into now?
 
 Omal:
                                                          you’re
                                                          starting to
                                                          see more
                                                          denser patches.
                                                          You’re
                                                          still
                                                          certainly very
                                                          much on the
                                                          fringe of it
                                                          but it is
                                                          certainly more
                                                          further in than
                                                          you were last
                                                          year and
                                                          therefore like
                                                          a cloud where
                                                          you first get
                                                          into the
                                                          fringes and it
                                                          is very light
                                                          and wispy and
                                                          you can still
                                                          see around
                                                          you, you’re
                                                          now into
                                                          patches where
                                                          it is more
                                                          dense and you
                                                          cannot see out
                                                          of but a few
                                                          moments pass and you're
                                                          into a more
                                                          wispy area
                                                          progressing
                                                          into a more
                                                          denser area.
 
 Russ:
                                                          okay, as such,
                                                          the results
                                                          and changes
                                                          that might
                                                          occur because
                                                          of this?
 
 Omal:
                                                          I believe we
                                                          covered them
                                                          pretty
                                                          extensively
                                                          when we were
                                                          discussing it
                                                          about a year
                                                          ago when we
                                                          initially
                                                          started discussing
                                                          it.
 
 Russ: I
                                                          was going to
                                                          use it on
                                                          the website, I
                                                          can’t remember
                                                          what I wrote
                                                          down now.
 
 Omal:
                                                          ahh, you do
                                                          not have shall
                                                          I say
                                                          long-term
                                                          memory?
 
 Russ:
                                                          I only have
                                                          short-term
                                                          memory.
 
 (Skip
                                                          chuckles)
 
 Omal:
                                                          ahh, I see
                                                          humor going
                                                          backwards and
                                                          forwards.
                                                          Okay, more
                                                          questions
                                                          please?
 
 Skip:
                                                          yeah, yeah,
                                                          yeah I have
                                                          one. We have
                                                          destroyed or
                                                          punched a hole
                                                          in our own
                                                          ionosphere…..
 
 Omal:
                                                          uh-huh.
 
 Skip:
                                                          I've heard
                                                          reports from
                                                          different
                                                          sources within
                                                          the last six,
                                                          eight months
                                                          that it’s
                                                          slowly closing
                                                          itself back
                                                          up, is this
                                                          true?
 
 Omal:
                                                          that is
                                                          correct.
 
 Skip:
                                                          okay, then
                                                          that means
                                                          that the Freon isn’t
                                                          being
                                                          discharged
                                                          like it was
                                                          years ago?
 
 Omal:
                                                          that is
                                                          correct.
 
 Skip:
                                                          okay, all
                                                          right, I
                                                          just wanted to
                                                          verify that.
 
 Omal:
                                                          now something
                                                          that I may add
                                                          to that is
                                                          that the ozone
                                                          does
                                                          regenerate
                                                          itself. Ozone
                                                          at a lower
                                                          level is a
                                                          health problem, high up it
                                                          is a
                                                          protectorate.
                                                          So the ozone
                                                          that you
                                                          generate that
                                                          adds into such
                                                          things as smog
                                                          is actual fact
                                                          something that
                                                          is being
                                                          generated and
                                                          repaired.
                                                          However there
                                                          is a natural
                                                          cycle
                                                          involving the
                                                          hole in the
                                                          ozone layer
                                                          over
                                                          Antarctica, it
                                                          will decrease
                                                          and increase.
                                                          For your
                                                          species to be
                                                          concerned
                                                          about it is
                                                          very wise to
                                                          be concerned
                                                          about it
                                                          however the
                                                          knowledge that
                                                          you have of
                                                          the natural
                                                          cycle of the
                                                          hole in the
                                                          ozone layer
                                                          over
                                                          Antarctica
                                                          only covers
                                                          maybe 30
                                                          years, 40
                                                          years at most.
                                                          So you really
                                                          don’t know
                                                          the cycle and the
                                                          long-term
                                                          effects that
                                                          are being
                                                          attributed to
                                                          the ozone
                                                          layer. Now too
                                                          much ozone in
                                                          your
                                                          atmosphere is
                                                          again a
                                                          problem. Do
                                                          you know what
                                                          happens if you
                                                          have too much
                                                          ozone in your
                                                          upper
                                                          atmosphere?
 
 Skip:
                                                          it probably
                                                          replaces the
                                                          oxygen.
 
 Omal:
                                                          up at that
                                                          altitude that
                                                          is not a problem.
 
 Skip:
                                                          oh okay.
 
 Omal:
                                                          you do not go
                                                          that high.
 
 Skip:
                                                          okay.
 
 Russ: start
                                                          to block solar
                                                          radiation
                                                          more?
 
 Omal:
                                                          it does the
                                                          opposite, it
                                                          traps it.
 
 Russ:
                                                          hmm.
 
 Skip:
                                                          oh, that’s why
                                                          we’re getting
                                                          the UV rays heavier, heavier.
 
 Omal:
                                                          because it is
                                                          again part of
                                                          the natural
                                                          cycle.
 
 Skip: uh-hmm.
 
 Omal:
                                                          it gets
                                                          thicker and
                                                          denser and
                                                          then it thins
                                                          out and moves
                                                          around and
                                                          there are
                                                          quite a few
                                                          different
                                                          things that go
                                                          on with the
                                                          ozone layer
                                                          that you’re
                                                          not fully
                                                          aware of. As I
                                                          stated, you
                                                          have at most
                                                          40 years worth
                                                          of knowledge on what
                                                          the ozone
                                                          actually does.
 
 Skip:
                                                          in other
                                                          words, it acts
                                                          like a
                                                          magnifier……excuse
                                                          me, I didn’t
                                                          mean to…..
 
 Omal:
                                                          oh certainly.
 
 Skip:
                                                          it acts like a
                                                          magnifier.
 
 Omal:
                                                          in one way
                                                          yes.
 
 Skip: huh, okay
                                                          that makes
                                                          sense.
 
 Omal:
                                                          just as you
                                                          start to name
                                                          phenomena
                                                          using Latin
                                                          names, I don’t
                                                          mean you
                                                          personally but
                                                          I mean your
                                                          local
                                                          scienity. Such
                                                          things as El
                                                          Niño and La
                                                          Niña are
                                                          pretty new
                                                          terms in your
                                                          vocabulary
                                                          that until
                                                          recently
                                                          weren’t
                                                          understood or
                                                          even named so
                                                          you had four
                                                          or
                                                          five
                                                          years
                                                          of extremely
                                                          dry weather
                                                          where you had
                                                          a drought.
                                                          Conversely you
                                                          had a number
                                                          of years where
                                                          you had a wet
                                                          period and
                                                          high
                                                          precipitation.
                                                          These are not
                                                          new phenomena,
                                                          they’re just
                                                          old names
                                                          being revised
                                                          to replace
                                                          phenomena that
                                                          was, “okay it
                                                          was a bad
                                                          winter, it was
                                                          a good winter,
                                                          it was a dry
                                                          winter, it was
                                                          a wet winter.”
                                                          Now it is
                                                          looked upon as
                                                          new
                                                          terminology and something worth studying.
 
 Russ:
                                                          hmm.
 
 Skip:
                                                          inventing new
                                                          words for old
                                                          terms.
 
 Omal:
                                                          more old
                                                          terms, the El
                                                          Niño and La
                                                          Niña are terms
                                                          that were
                                                          introduced by
                                                          the Hispanics
                                                          when they came
                                                          from Spain
                                                          into the
                                                          new....what
                                                          you call the New World.
 
 Skip:
                                                          uh-huh, we are
                                                          the New World
                                                          yeah.
 
 Omal:
                                                          so it is
                                                          something that
                                                          if you
                                                          were...if the
                                                          indigenous
                                                          aboriginals of
                                                          your area had
                                                          kept written
                                                          records of
                                                          climate,
                                                          temperature,
                                                          precipitation
                                                          and so on, you
                                                          would see a
                                                          very distinct
                                                          and definite
                                                          pattern after
                                                          all. A lot of
                                                          the
                                                          civilizations
                                                          that have been
                                                          around, if
                                                          their records
                                                          had survived,
                                                          you would have
                                                          two, 3,000
                                                          years worth
                                                          of records
                                                          which would
                                                          give you a
                                                          very
                                                          interesting
                                                          pattern that
                                                          would be worth studying
                                                          and analyzing
                                                          and seeing the
                                                          regular
                                                          cycles. Those
                                                          cycles are not clockwork regular
                                                          but they are
                                                          within five
                                                          years of a cycle
                                                          which over two
                                                          to three
                                                          thousand years,
                                                          is fairly
                                                          regular. Okay,
                                                          any more
                                                          questions?
 
 Russ:
                                                          uh-huh. Since
                                                          we’re
                                                          on cycles, one quick
                                                          question on
                                                          that is, are
                                                          we at the
                                                          point of a cycle
                                                          where had we
                                                          better records
                                                          we can keep
                                                          more track of
                                                          this but
                                                          through the
                                                          civilizations
                                                          since the dawn
                                                          of man where
                                                          social
                                                          phenomenon, I
                                                          mean natural
                                                          phenomena set
                                                          off social
                                                          pressures that
                                                          have either
                                                          increased or
                                                          decreased the
                                                          population’s
                                                          ability to
                                                          deal with it where
                                                          you see
                                                          civilizations
                                                          go under or
                                                          build up due
                                                          to natural
                                                          phenomenon and
                                                          the pressures
                                                          held back by
                                                          that?
                                                          Are we
                                                          like
                                                          unconsciously or subconsciously
                                                          feeling
                                                          those
                                                          pressures
                                                          again as the
                                                          cycle reaches its point?
 
 Omal:
                                                          certainly,
                                                          certainly. If
                                                          you had
                                                          extensive
                                                          records for
                                                          the last let
                                                          us say 5,000
                                                          years of
                                                          natural
                                                          events, space
                                                          events, solar
                                                          events, you
                                                          would see that
                                                          there is a
                                                          definite cycle
                                                          and
                                                          civilizations
                                                          either
                                                          flourish or
                                                          become extinct
                                                          on how they
                                                          handle those
                                                          events. If you
                                                          were to take
                                                          something like
                                                          the events of
                                                          Atlantis, you
                                                          would see that
                                                          there are
                                                          certainly very
                                                          interesting
                                                          cycles that a
                                                          civilization
                                                          if it survives
                                                          becomes much,
                                                          much stronger.
                                                          Conversely, if
                                                          the
                                                          civilization
                                                          is hit by it
                                                          and is weakened,
                                                          eventually the
                                                          civilization
                                                          fades away and
                                                          becomes
                                                          extinct.
                                                          They’re not
                                                          just natural
                                                          phenomenon. If
                                                          you take for
                                                          example the
                                                          Incan Empire,
                                                          as soon as
                                                          they had
                                                          contact with
                                                          the Western
                                                          world, they
                                                          had serious
                                                          problems and
                                                          eventually it
                                                          became an
                                                          extinct
                                                          civilization.
 
 Russ:
                                                          couldn’t
                                                          handle the
                                                          pressure. Then
                                                          what about
                                                          with Rome with like
                                                          say Pompeii?
                                                          Pompeii
                                                          happened just
                                                          about the last
                                                          part of Rome.
 
 Omal:
                                                          yes that
                                                          certainly had
                                                          an interesting
                                                          factor in it.
                                                          It happened in
                                                          I believe 75
                                                          A.D. which
                                                          definitely
                                                          wasn’t the end
                                                          of Rome.
 
 Russ:
                                                          right.
 
 Omal:
                                                          Rome
                                                          flourished for
                                                          another couple
                                                          hundred years.
                                                          The rot that
                                                          was causing
                                                          the problem
                                                          for Rome had
                                                          already
                                                          started at
                                                          that point, this was
                                                          just a factor
                                                          that occurred and caused
                                                          problems later
                                                          on. Certainly
                                                          there were a
                                                          number of very
                                                          prominent and
                                                          well-to-do
                                                          individuals
                                                          that were
                                                          caught in both
                                                          the
                                                          catastrophe at
                                                          Pompeii and Herculaneum
                                                          which did play
                                                          a part in the
                                                          more
                                                          widespread
                                                          corruption
                                                          that developed
                                                          later on.
 
 Russ:
                                                          hmm, okay. Well
                                                          done,
                                                          thank you.
                                                          Thanks Omal.
 
 Omal:
                                                          not a problem.
                                                          No more
                                                          questions?
 
 Skip:
                                                          no.......
 
 Russ:
                                                          no.
 
 Skip: not
                                                          for me, thank
                                                          you.
 
 Omal:
                                                          okay, live
                                                          long, prosper
                                                          and, I will be
                                                          back.
 
 
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