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                 (Omal explains the details of being
                          seventh dimensional and how they differ in
                          what someone of a lower dimension would
                          experience. He takes a stage play as an
                          example and what details are taken in to make
                          a fuller picture of the production than
                          normally noticed by those on the third
                          dimension.)
 
 
 Omal:
                                            greetings Russ.
 
 Russ: greetings Omal.
 
 Omal: it has been some time
                                            has it not?
 
 Russ: it has indeed.
 
 Omal: approximately a month.
 
 Russ: uh-huh, it's nice to
                                            see you again.
 
 Omal: thank you and it is
                                            good to see you too. I
                                            believe you have a question
                                            for me to answer your
                                            question. It is different in
                                            the feel, the more in tune
                                            with the surroundings, the
                                            more vibrations from the
                                            surroundings, the more
                                            feeling of familiarity. The
                                            fact that in the seventh
                                            dimension, the trees are
                                            more aware, the rocks are
                                            more aware. Everything is
                                            more connected in the
                                            awareness of each other.
 
 Russ: hmm. So all things
                                            manifest?
 
 Omal: yes. Being a
                                            manifestor myself, I am more
                                            in tune than other seventh
                                            dimensional beings with my
                                            surroundings, in my
                                            awareness, in the feelings
                                            of familiarity, the feelings
                                            of being connected.
 
 Russ: so when you manifest
                                            something, is that something
                                            aware?
 
 Omal: for me yes.
 
 Russ: so isn't that sort of
                                            like being God?
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: what is God?
 
 Russ: well I mean the
                                            version of God that would be
                                            called a creator.
 
 Omal: so, when you create a
                                            webpage, are you being a
                                            God?
 
 Russ: well the point of it
                                            is though, with the
                                            awareness that you feel. Let
                                            me take it to another point,
                                            Ashtar-Athena.......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: in her channeling to
                                            us.......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: reflected heavily on
                                            the fact that we're all
                                            actors and actresses.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and is that something
                                            you get into as the higher
                                            dimensions go up? You see
                                            more of the play?
 
 Omal: she does love to use
                                            analogies does she not?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: yes, you are more
                                            aware of the play. Instead
                                            of seeing just the actors on
                                            the stage, the backdrop on
                                            the stage, the music coming
                                            from the orchestra pit, you
                                            are more in tune with the
                                            movements of the actors. The
                                            fact that on the mantelpiece
                                            maybe there is a clock,
                                            maybe there is something
                                            else as well. You see more
                                            of the picture, you see more
                                            of the actor's movements.
                                            The fact that the lead
                                            person that is talking, who
                                            is doing their poor actor
                                            that struts and frets their
                                            hour upon the stage, the
                                            person behind them may be
                                            leaning on one arm looking
                                            at them quizzically. The
                                            person to the left may be
                                            watching with their hands on
                                            their hips. The other person
                                            on the left part of the
                                            stage may be looking more
                                            into the audience and
                                            somebody else may still be
                                            walking towards the speaker
                                            that is strutting and
                                            fretting their hour upon the
                                            stage. Instead of being just
                                            aware of the speaker and the
                                            backdrop and the orchestra,
                                            you are more in tune with
                                            what I've just mentioned
                                            plus what they are wearing.
                                            The fabric that they are
                                            wearing, the texture, the
                                            color, the smells, the
                                            odors, the body movements,
                                            the body language, the
                                            meaning in their movements.
                                            You see no longer is it just
                                            a person on the stage
                                            speaking and acting, it is
                                            an experience.
 
 Russ: hmm. Well Korton has
                                            often said that it's very
                                            important to listen to what
                                            is being said.
 
 Omal: that is a higher
                                            dimensional outlook as well
                                            as something that is very
                                            useful and should be done on
                                            a third dimensional level.
 
 Russ: right. Now let's take
                                            what you just said. This is
                                            more in the way of not only
                                            listening to the words of
                                            the play, but more paying
                                            attention to all the detail
                                            besides the words.
 
 Omal: yes, the detail may
                                            have some meaning. For
                                            example, let us say that you
                                            have a person that is
                                            playing a scene that is all
                                            depressed and on the table
                                            is a dagger. It is there, it
                                            was there when the curtain
                                            came up but you see the
                                            dagger. You are aware of the
                                            dagger and the person who is
                                            playing a depressed scene,
                                            they grab the dagger and
                                            they stab themselves in the
                                            heart. You see?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: you are more aware of
                                            what is going on. You see
                                            more detail, you know the
                                            fact that they are planning
                                            something, the knife plays a
                                            part.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Omal: there is a lady in the
                                            kitchen, this is on a stage.
                                            In the kitchen, you see that
                                            the table is set. She is
                                            complaining the fact that
                                            her husband is late. Now
                                            what does this tell you? She
                                            is in the kitchen. On the
                                            kitchen table is a knife, a
                                            fork, spoon, a napkin, a
                                            candle, a wineglass or two
                                            wineglasses, two plates, two
                                            knives, two forks, two
                                            spoons, what does this tell
                                            you?
 
 Russ: it tells you she is
                                            preparing for more people to
                                            eat the dinner.
 
 Omal: it tells you something
                                            more than that. How often
                                            does a person have a candle
                                            on the table with
                                            wineglasses?
 
 Russ: it tells you that
                                            maybe someone special is
                                            coming to dinner.
 
 Omal: good, now she is
                                            complaining. What does that
                                            tell you?
 
 Russ: that he's late?
 
 Omal: good. Put it all
                                            together. She is cooking a
                                            special dinner or has cooked
                                            a special dinner. She is
                                            expecting somebody of
                                            importance and she has set
                                            up accordingly and that
                                            person is late.
 
 Russ: I see.
 
 Omal: so it is being more
                                            aware of the goings-on.
                                            Being more observant. For
                                            example, look around this
                                            room.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: what does it tell you?
 
 Russ: it's a place of study
                                            and a place of work.
 
 Omal: now what kind of
                                            people have been in this
                                            room?
 
 Russ: people who come just
                                            to learn.
 
 Omal: more, there's more
                                            than that that is told.
                                            We're talking about
                                            observation.
 
 Russ: well if you look at
                                            the tapes.......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: you would see that
                                            there's mass amounts of
                                            information stored here and
                                            that the people coming here
                                            are here to gain the
                                            information that is given.
 
 Omal: there is also some
                                            thinking going on in here.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: there is a picture
                                            that indicates that. There
                                            is also culture as in the
                                            pottery. There is a reminder
                                            or a keepsake from a young
                                            lady. There is a lot of
                                            energy, there is a lot of
                                            humor.
 
 Russ: healing.
 
 Omal: a lot of healing. So
                                            it is not just a place where
                                            people come to study. It is
                                            a place filled with
                                            memories, humor, knowledge,
                                            energy and I could go on
                                            listing.
 
 Russ: right. I see what you
                                            mean.
 
 Omal: it is a room that has
                                            had a lot of love, I'm not
                                            talking about the love for
                                            all things, I'm talking
                                            about the love between
                                            people.
 
 Russ: uh-hmm.
 
 Omal: it has had some
                                            physical love. These are all
                                            echoed in little pieces
                                            throughout the room.
 
 Russ: so the first step is
                                            to listen, to gain that
                                            knowledge.......
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: and then to observe
                                            would be the next step in
                                            that.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: and then what comes
                                            after that?
 
 Omal: putting both together,
                                            listening and observing and
                                            finally interacting, being
                                            aware, being in tune, being
                                            able to know what to do.
                                            Doing the right thing, which
                                            is not as easy as it sounds.
 
 Russ: what about sense of
                                            humor in the higher
                                            dimensions?
 
 Omal: oh, we have a good
                                            sense of humor as you have
                                            heard.
 
 Russ: as I've heard but not
                                            as often as I hear in sixth
                                            dimension.
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: why? Is that because
                                            you see it.....you see it
                                            more of the actors and
                                            actresses.......
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: then you should be
                                            laughing at the play sad or
                                            happy because you just see
                                            it as the play, you don't
                                            take it as serious as if it
                                            was real life.
 
 Omal: (chuckles) okay Karra
                                            made a very good analogy a
                                            while back.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: concerning seventh
                                            dimensional and higher
                                            individuals. For you, you
                                            work on the scale of 23
                                            hours 59 minutes, I work on
                                            a much longer time scale.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: so I may laugh, I may
                                            make jokes and I think I
                                            make quite a few jokes.
 
 Russ: quite a few for....
 
 Omal: but in the timescale
                                            of you, you see it as
                                            occasionally. For me, I do
                                            not see it in that timescale
                                            of occasionally.
 
 Russ: ahhh. I see, so you
                                            get more of a bigger
                                            picture.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: hmm, so it's tough to
                                            laugh 24 hours a day at
                                            something that's going on
                                            for a millennium.
 
 Omal: correct.
 
 Russ: you'd hurt your face.
 
 Omal: put it this way, I
                                            told a joke to Korton.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: I told the joke, it
                                            would be close to a 100
                                            years now. This may in
                                            itself be a little bit of a
                                            joke. Korton got back to me
                                            on the joke just a few days
                                            ago. So you see the
                                            timescales are very
                                            different.
 
 Russ: yeah.
 
 Omal: when I talk of
                                            watching the aurora borealis
                                            a 100, sorry....80,000 years
                                            ago, that is not that long
                                            ago.
 
 Russ: hmm, time just becomes
                                            meaningless?
 
 Omal: put it this way, if
                                            each of your 38 years, is
                                            that correct?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: was a 100 years, one
                                            of your 38 years........just
                                            one of those 38 years was a
                                            100 years, how many would
                                            that be?
 
 Russ: 3,800 years.
 
 Omal: three thousand, eight
                                            hundred years.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Omal: okay, how long ago was
                                            that?
 
 Russ: it was about the point
                                            where the Egyptians were
                                            just starting their
                                            civilization up?
 
 Omal: actually they were at
                                            the peak of their
                                            civilization.
 
 Russ: oh okay.
 
 Omal: it is about the time
                                            of Ramses the first or
                                            second.
 
 Russ: okay, so therefore the
                                            Sumerians were in pretty
                                            good shape also as were the
                                            Babylonians.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: the rest the world was
                                            pretty much in a very dark
                                            age.
 
 Omal: no, but continue.
 
 Russ: right, basically if
                                            you were to look at the
                                            world at that point then,
                                            yeah it would be.....a lot
                                            of your light would be
                                            focused right there on
                                            Egypt.
 
 Omal: now this ties in with
                                            what I was saying on the
                                            other side of your recording
                                            about looking at the big
                                            picture. You have just told
                                            me something that you did
                                            not say. It was a long time
                                            ago you told me, was it?
 
 Russ: oh yeah.
 
 Omal: was it? For you.......
 
 Russ: from my point of view
                                            yeah.
 
 Omal: but for me, it would
                                            be like saying last year,
                                            it's not that long ago.
 
 
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